KCBS at it again

[chinesebob]

Your right, it takes the voting away from KCBS members. It might as well just be a good ole boys club again. I have asked many times for the bylaws, a financial report and many other items. I finally got the by laws after years of asking, but nothing else. Why is everything sure a secret? What do we not deserve to know? This is crazy! I have asked who the letters and emails are from and were told they dont think they can say who wrote them, another secret? If the people dont want the membership to know who they are it should not be a issue to them. This board needs to get back to management of KCBS and let the members vote in who they want.

I think that if they are listed as a non-profit organization they have to publish their financials annually. If they are a private company then we have less to say other than at election time. Check with the state they are registered in, but if they can't or don't provide them then they are breaking the law.

Being naive, I can throw this out for consideration:

Why do we need BS (back-stabbing) politics in an organization developed around the enjoyment of BBQ???

Riddle me that.

Why do we need BS like this in any organization.

OK, lot's to read. Let me come at this from a different angle. Maybe the BOD has concerns with families voting as a block. I'm not choosing sides, only offering other possibilities. With that said, I believe there are other methods to prevent "silo's" of power. When one person sits in a position for too long, they become a silo, perhaps to the point of being irrational in decision making for the organization. Are there any term limits? That would handle silos. I will also send a letter ot KCBS BOD and request that this proposal be rescinded. Scott

Nepotism/good ole boy same thing. Unfortunately it exists. I deal with it every single day. I think that if we and they accept it exists and will exist and some BS will be a result of that. If we are working towards a common goal, then there is still a common ground to work from.

This is about not allowing Merl to run for re-election, this same member tried get a rule passed to gag me from posting in forums this not a new tactic.
Jim

Jim - Makes you wonder if he's ever heard of the Constitution of The United States of America.

In my experience politics and things like this come about because of 2 underlying motives. Money or Power. If the BOD is serious about getting bigger sponsors, increasing dues, fees, etc. there is going to be more money, that they may get. If not directly, then in some form as yet unseen. Power is different but the motives are similar. In something like this it can only come stroke ego's and build resumes.

Several years ago the Mayor of Columbus and some of his key aids didn't run for re-election but right after the end of their term they all land cushy positions with Nationwide Insurance making a sweet amount of coin. Sure he had to live on more than most of make in a year while Mayor but he leveraged it into something bigger.

Money and power. Look at the heart of the motives and you will see the truth. If they are free from retribution after being elected by the members then they are free to do what they wnat and pray you don't remember at election time. If a large number of members are opposed to this, then boycotting competitions or other actions might speak as loud as the emails. Or letters to their new sponsors.

Just some thoughts.

 

[DeanC]

Good point Scottie. Maybe it is time for regional repesentation since KCBS has become a national organization.

I think that is an excellent idea.

 

[ThomEmery]

Sure would be nice to have a rep from the West ,North East etc

 

[thenewguy]

I voiced my concerns, I hope others have as well.

 

[michiana mark]

Message sent, hope they listened. Maybe we should March on headquarters.

 

[River City Smokehouse]

This is about not allowing Merl to run for re-election, this same member tried get a rule passed to gag me from posting in forums this not a new tactic.

Jim

I can't wait til it's time to put in the votes when Troy Black comes back up because I'm sure this will be the end of his involvement. It just won't happen fast enough for me.

 

[AsstChief7]

I sent my emails with my opinions... I how everyone else does the same.

 

[Muzzlebrake]

For the time being, I will continue to be a KCBS member, vote for those I think have the spirit of BBQ at heart and compete for the fun of it.

When the fun goes away regarding KCBS competitions, I'm gonna go back to just cooking in my backyard or with my Brethren friends...

I want to come and cook around that fire.......discuss real issues like; exactley when Henry Rollins sold out or if Social Distortion was pop or punk?

 

[ThomEmery]

Sent a email today

 

[Roo-B-Q'N]

Well apparently after a hundred or so emails to the board of directors, Mr. Black feels he has the votes to push this through the board. This does not take into account the fact that by laws would need to be changed or amended. Suffice it to say Black has his own agenda at heart.

So after seeing this action and, if you were at the organizers meeting where he continued to push his agenda after taking a show of hands vote regarding membership requirements for competing (with not one single hand raised in favor of by the organizers) I believe as I have stated Mr. Black and several of those aligned with him ( I guess this is a concentration of power without nepotism) are going against the wishes and votes of the general membership.

If you care about how and who runs your organization in the future, or more to the point who will be allowed to run and have not done so, e-mail the board of directors. You have until 7 P.M.

 

[KC_Bobby]

So where and when does the Learn2Q promotion, err BBQ Tour kick off?

 

[Plowboy]

Mr. Black and several of those aligned with him

So who are these people? I'm just not in the know about BOD political alignments.

I'll take a PM on that question, Bob. :wink:

 

[SP]

Competition/Tour Schedule
Charleston, SC - March 07, 2008 to March 08, 2008
North Kansas City, MO - March 14, 2008 to March 15, 2008
Hammond, LA - March 28, 2008 to March 29, 2008
Clarksville, TN - April 04, 2008 to April 05, 2008
Columbus, MS - April 11, 2008 to April 12, 2008
Livingston, AL - April 18, 2008 to April 19, 2008
Sugar Creek, MO - April 25, 2008 to April 26, 2008
Huntsville, AL - May 02, 2008 to May 03, 2008
Ashland, MS - May 09, 2008 to May 10, 2008
*Danville, VA - May 16, 2008 to May 18, 2008
*Kansas City, KS - May 23, 2008 to May 25, 2008
*Nashville, TN - June 05, 2008 to June 08, 2008
Mt. Pleasant, IA - June 13, 2008 to June 15, 2008
*Washington, DC - June 20, 2008 to June 21, 2008
Albertville, AL - June 27, 2008 to June 28, 2008
*Napierville, IL - July 03, 2008 to July 06, 2008
Tulsa, OK - July 11, 2008 to July 12, 2008
Bellvue, NE - July 18, 2008 to July 19, 2008
Mason City, IA - July 25, 2008 to July 26, 2008
*Dillon, CO - August 08, 2008 to August 09, 2008
Madison, IN - August 15, 2008 to August 16, 2008
*Reno, NV - August 27, 2008 to September 01, 2008
Cookeville, TN - September 05, 2008 to September 06, 2008
Decatur, AL - September 12, 2008 to September 13, 2008
American Royal, Kansas City, MO - October 02, 2008 to October 05, 2008
*College Station, TX - October 11, 2008 to October 12, 2008
Canton, GA - October 17, 2008 to October 18, 2008
*Jack Daniel's World BBQ Invitational, Lynchburg, TN - October 24, 2008 to October 25, 2008
*St. Petersburg, FL - November 07, 2008 to November 09, 2008
Plant City, FL - November 14, 2008 to November 15, 2008
Ft. Lauderdale, FL - November 28, 2008 to November 29, 2008

*Denotes Southern BBQ on Tour Demo Event

 

[slat]

It's sad that a non issue like this has to become something of such importance. There are many more important issues to work out. I sent an email too. Hope that we are heard.

 

[KC_Bobby]

Slat, we may be in agreement about the fact that this issue is an issue. But I don't consider this a non-issue.

If this proposal passes, it takes away Merl's chance or running again next year. Merl has been instrumental on the board to get us members more information and to be able to voice opinions and concerns to the board.

 

[Fast Eddy]

If Jack Roush was on the board of Nascar and was making a stupid decision that affected the wishes of owners,competitors, and fans,don't you think it would be disturbing to his sponsors that he represents? Last I knew that some of these BOD are making a living from BBQ sponsors. I wonder what they would think about the negitive feeling toward the represntitive of there products stiring the waters like this?I would find it hard as a business owner in the industry to support individuals who would vote for this issue.

 

[QN]

There is a copy of the latest version of the KCBS Bylaws on a free web site. It is a PDF file. The changes and revisions were approved by vote of the membership in last years (2006?) election voting.

http://www.4shared.com/file/37223714/24560540/

 

[scottyd]

We as a voting body have no voice. We have been dupped. There are good people on the Board, But we have found some Black Sheep also people with there own adjenda. This truly is disapointing to say the least.

I am truly disapointed in the way this is shaking out. From all I have read on this Forum and others. No matter what happens now we have a whole lot or rebuilding to do.

 

[KC_Bobby]

Competition/Tour Schedule
Charleston, SC - March 07, 2008 to March 08, 2008
North Kansas City, MO - March 14, 2008 to March 15, 2008
Hammond, LA - March 28, 2008 to March 29, 2008
Clarksville, TN - April 04, 2008 to April 05, 2008
Columbus, MS - April 11, 2008 to April 12, 2008
Livingston, AL - April 18, 2008 to April 19, 2008
Sugar Creek, MO - April 25, 2008 to April 26, 2008
Huntsville, AL - May 02, 2008 to May 03, 2008
Ashland, MS - May 09, 2008 to May 10, 2008
*Danville, VA - May 16, 2008 to May 18, 2008
*Kansas City, KS - May 23, 2008 to May 25, 2008
*Nashville, TN - June 05, 2008 to June 08, 2008
Mt. Pleasant, IA - June 13, 2008 to June 15, 2008
*Washington, DC - June 20, 2008 to June 21, 2008
Albertville, AL - June 27, 2008 to June 28, 2008
*Napierville, IL - July 03, 2008 to July 06, 2008
Tulsa, OK - July 11, 2008 to July 12, 2008
Bellvue, NE - July 18, 2008 to July 19, 2008
Mason City, IA - July 25, 2008 to July 26, 2008
*Dillon, CO - August 08, 2008 to August 09, 2008
Madison, IN - August 15, 2008 to August 16, 2008
*Reno, NV - August 27, 2008 to September 01, 2008
Cookeville, TN - September 05, 2008 to September 06, 2008
Decatur, AL - September 12, 2008 to September 13, 2008
American Royal, Kansas City, MO - October 02, 2008 to October 05, 2008
*College Station, TX - October 11, 2008 to October 12, 2008
Canton, GA - October 17, 2008 to October 18, 2008
*Jack Daniel's World BBQ Invitational, Lynchburg, TN - October 24, 2008 to October 25, 2008
*St. Petersburg, FL - November 07, 2008 to November 09, 2008
Plant City, FL - November 14, 2008 to November 15, 2008
Ft. Lauderdale, FL - November 28, 2008 to November 29, 2008

*Denotes Southern BBQ on Tour Demo Event

These are Learn2Q dates, not necessarily the BBQ Tour dates.

 

[Ford]

Is that schedule the new KCBS trailer? According to the webiste it's first stop is New Mexico and I saw Thom post it was going to CA. Don't see thsoe on this schedule.