Smoke on Badger Mountain
Babbling Farker
Direct, indirect, wood, charcoal or gas. I could get into that argument. But sauce or no sauce should not even be an issue. Well that's what I think anyway.
BBQ up here is burgers, dawgs, chicken on a gasser. KBB if your lucky = blah gross
Never heard folks use the term bbq for burgers and dogs. I have however heard them say they ate burgers and dogs at a bbq.
Never heard folks use the term bbq for burgers and dogs. I have however heard them say they ate burgers and dogs at a bbq.
That person may have been from Texas but he had no idea about what Q is and didn't even understand what Texans think about the sauce subject. Generally speaking... in Texas sauce is not required and most of the sauces that you'll find served with traditional Texas style BBQ (if there is any) is a thin, brothy liquid with a little sweetness and a peppery kick,... more or less something to compliment rather than dominate the flavor of the meat.:wink:About the sauce comment I have had someone disagree with me that dry ribs are bbq and have said that it is not bbq without sauce. Interestingly enough he is a transplant from Texas... I really didn't know what to think of that one.
I love dry ribs myself. I think sauce can overpower the flavors easily so no sauce prevents that. I only make sauce for comps and family and friends. I prefer all bbq dry rubs only.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention... down here BBQ is considered slow smoked meat off of an indirect cooker of some sort (with REAL wood smoke involved) where as the use of direct heat (gas or charcoal briquettes) constitutes "grilling".:-D
Well I see your point since in the old days true "pit" BBQ was made on a spit or a grate, over hot wood coals and was in fact getting direct heat. It was however, raised high above the coals and it was a slow cooking process, the meat wasn't so close to the coals or open flames that it was quickly charred, so it was direct,... yet indirect cooking.Funny thing is the "indirect heat" is a relatively new thing, even in Texas.
Well I see your point since in the old days true "pit" BBQ was made on a spit or a grate, over hot wood coals and was in fact getting direct heat. It was however, raised high above the coals and it was a slow cooking process, the meat wasn't so close to the coals or open flames that it was quickly charred, so it was direct,... yet indirect cooking.
Around the the late 1800s to the turn of the 20th century, the first drum and offset style cookers were developed by oil workers as portable cookers out in the fields. The indirect design caught on and at about the same time a variation of it was being used by German immigrants in their meat markets to preserve meat (in the days before refrigeration), to extend it's shelf life.
At Kreuz Market in Lockhart, Texas you can see brick, indirect cookers being operated just like the first one built in 1900, fueled with post oak splits which are burned in the firebox at the end of the pits. The draft of the tall smoke stacks on the cookers pull the heat and smoke through the cookers and provide perfect heat to the meat being cooked.
https://www.kreuzmarket.com/about-kreuz-barbecue-lockhart-texas/
An excerpt from Wikipedia on the origins of BBQ!:-D
Barbecue Tradition...
The first ingredient in the barbecue tradition was the meat. Pigs came to the Americas with the Spanish explorers, and quickly turned feral. This provided the most widely used meat used in most barbecue, pork ribs, as well as the pork shoulder for pulled pork.[1] The techniques used in barbecue are hot smoking and smoke cooking. Hot smoking is where the meat is cooked with a wood fire, over indirect heat, at temperatures between 120 and 180 F (49 and 82 C), and smoke cooking is cooking over indirect fire at higher temperatures. Unlike cold smoking, which preserves meat and takes days of exposure to the smoke, hot smoking and smoke cooking are cooking processes. While much faster than cold smoking, the cooking process still takes hours, as many as 18. The long, slow cooking process leaves the meat tender and juicy.[2][9]
The next ingredient in barbecue is the wood. Since the wood smoke flavors the food, the particular type of wood influences the process; different woods impart different flavors, so availability of various woods for smoking influences the taste of the barbecue in different regions.
Hard woods such as hickory, mesquite, pecan and the different varieties of oak impart a strong smoke flavor.
Maple, alder, and fruit woods such as apple, pear, and cherry impart a milder, sweeter taste.
Stronger flavored woods are used for pork and beef, while the lighter flavored woods are used for fish and poultry. More exotic smoke generating ingredients can be found in some recipes; grapevine adds a sweet flavor, and sassafras, a major flavor in root beer, adds its distinctive taste to the smoke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue_in_the_United_States