FatBoyz
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I am starting a black list for every cbj that gives me a 5 ..... i hae a realy big azz list so far...
Conversely, perhaps your tables had all CBJs, and the street ppl placed your competitors higher. One would hope that when CBJs aren't 100% that the street ppl are evenly distributed and every team gets the same quantity of turn-ins in front of street people, but that's not always possible.
dmp
Hi,
I have absolutely no qualms with an organizer maintaining a list of judges who have shown themselves to be unreliable. None.
If a someone signs up to judge and doesn't attend and doesn't contact the organizer to let them know that they have (or had) a problem, than they belong on a list of judges that are not dependable.
If an organizer than uses that information to track how often the judge repeats this behavior and uses it to determine whether or not the judge is welcome to participate at his event, I applaud his actions.
I've been in a position more than once where I have had to either turn prospective judges down or put them on a reserve list for judging due to having enough judges already signed up. Most people won't show up if they are on an alternates list. If irresponsible judges don't show up they have cost those other people (who may be CBJ's) a seat and cost the organizer time and effort.
I've heard stories from Linda and Jerry (KCBS Reps) about judges who sign up for competitions early in the season with the goal of having a seat at a table IF they decide to attend. They sign up for everything remotely close to them and if they have a three day weekend or if they get some free time, they have a seat. If they decide not to attend, no problem, there's another event next week that they signed up for.
Hopefully Linda will comment.
Eric
As a competitor in this comp it is also frustrating to hear after traveling 400 miles one way to participate. (Of course certified judges would have probably placed us lower.)
Hi,
I have absolutely no qualms with an organizer maintaining a list of judges who have shown themselves to be unreliable. None.
If a someone signs up to judge and doesn't attend and doesn't contact the organizer to let them know that they have (or had) a problem, than they belong on a list of judges that are not dependable.
If an organizer than uses that information to track how often the judge repeats this behavior and uses it to determine whether or not the judge is welcome to participate at his event, I applaud his actions.
I've been in a position more than once where I have had to either turn prospective judges down or put them on a reserve list for judging due to having enough judges already signed up. Most people won't show up if they are on an alternates list. If irresponsible judges don't show up they have cost those other people (who may be CBJ's) a seat and cost the organizer time and effort.
I've heard stories from Linda and Jerry (KCBS Reps) about judges who sign up for competitions early in the season with the goal of having a seat at a table IF they decide to attend. They sign up for everything remotely close to them and if they have a three day weekend or if they get some free time, they have a seat. If they decide not to attend, no problem, there's another event next week that they signed up for.
Hopefully Linda will comment.
Eric
^^This.^^....about judges who sign up for competitions early in the season with the goal of having a seat at a table IF they decide to attend. They sign up for everything remotely close to them and if they have a three day weekend or if they get some free time, they have a seat. If they decide not to attend, no problem, there's another event next week that they signed up for.
It is unbelievably frustrating to have to turn a judge down (or place on waiting list) because you think you have enough judges and then people don't show. And it can be unfair to a judge if we overbook and they don't get used. Very tough balancing act.
What's so bad with a "three strikes and you're out" system ?
Hi,
I have absolutely no qualms with an organizer maintaining a list of judges who have shown themselves to be unreliable. None.
If a someone signs up to judge and doesn't attend and doesn't contact the organizer to let them know that they have (or had) a problem, than they belong on a list of judges that are not dependable.
If an organizer than uses that information to track how often the judge repeats this behavior and uses it to determine whether or not the judge is welcome to participate at his event, I applaud his actions.
I've been in a position more than once where I have had to either turn prospective judges down or put them on a reserve list for judging due to having enough judges already signed up. Most people won't show up if they are on an alternates list. If irresponsible judges don't show up they have cost those other people (who may be CBJ's) a seat and cost the organizer time and effort.
I've heard stories from Linda and Jerry (KCBS Reps) about judges who sign up for competitions early in the season with the goal of having a seat at a table IF they decide to attend. They sign up for everything remotely close to them and if they have a three day weekend or if they get some free time, they have a seat. If they decide not to attend, no problem, there's another event next week that they signed up for.
Hopefully Linda will comment.
Eric
One word Byzantine
Many here are speaking of the extreme. But what about the day to day. Each one of you organizers, reps and organizer helpers can rattle off 5 names right now you wouldn't welcome but why? What is the criteria? Who will be responsible? What oversight will be given? It seems a list,made from many little lists, will open up an avenue of impropriety. It reminds me of Nixon's enemies list. Who is on it and why?
A quick scan of last years comps gives you an idea of CBJ percentages. Is a list really necessary.
I know of one rep who has a blacklist of judges that he feels aren't consistent, and it isn't a secret either.
Would be interesting to hear their reasoning behind their list.
One way to put it, these judges have repeatedly scored too high or too low.
It's nothing official
but this rep will get judges declined if he feels the need.
Maybe they didn't show because they forgot their coolersWe have several contests with as much as 30% no show