The Kraft and Bulls-Eye cook

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It is quite often that I hear that store bought sauces are somehow inferior to the ever increasing number of artisinal BBQ sauces that are hitting the market in ever incresing numbers, especially as competitive barbeque has become more popular. To be sure, these small run, hand crafted sauces feature ingredients, formulations and hard won knowledge that simply does not translate well to the scale of production necessary to provide lower cost sauces at a grocery store level of supply chain. These more common sauces are often scoffed at by more serious BBQ hobbyists and competitors. But, from time to time, you hear of someone using Kraft, Bullzeye or some other brand and doing well. It got me thinking.

I decided to do a cook using both Kraft and Bulls-Eye BBQ sauces, bought from the local grocery store and used straight from the bottle. I would do everything else as I normally do for a backyard cook. I procurred the following bottles.



Yep, Kraft Original and Bulls-Eye Carolina

Here are the two sauces, and a blend, just as an experiment. I noted that the Bulls-Eye had vinegar as a first ingredient, and used sugar for sweetening. The Kraft had High Fructose Corn Syrup as a first ingredient. The overall flavor of each would reflect this difference. Here are the three in prep bowls.



Blended, Kraft, Bulls-Eye

The Kraft Original was quite a bit sweeter, with a little tang in the middle and finishing palate, The Bulls-Eye was tangier and had a slight heat on the finish. Overall, the Bulls-Eye was better than I expected, the Kraft was about what I would expect, but, not as good as I seemed to remember it from years ago. The Carolina sauce had a slight mustard twist, but, was too thick to be used as a mix in for pulled pork, I suspect if I was to use it for that purpose, it would need a lot more vinegar and peppers. The Kraft really did not stand out from what I would consider a normal store bought BBQ sauce. The blended mix was promising as a dipping sauce, although more for chicken nuggets than ribs or pork.

I did cook up some chickenm and sausage to test the sauces for both cooking and dipping. I also made some baked beans with the Kraft sauce. The idea, again, was to do what I normally do with a twist of using the sauce fairly straight. The sausage was smoked straight up, the chicken recieved a rub of Simply Marvelous Season-All, The Rub Company Santa Maria and Simply Marvelous Spicy Apple, all blended then rubbed and bagged for 10 minutes.



Raw Meat, Chicken Apple, Chorizo, Kielbasa, Chicken



On the Grill, Beans below



Cooked Meats, Kraft on left, Bulls-Eye on right

As you can see in the above photo, the sauces cooked down to an almost identical appearance, the Kraft and Bulls-Eye both worked well with the rub and applewood smoke. I would say that the Bulls-Eye actually had a spicier finish and lost a little of the over sweetness once on the chicken. To be honest, either one could be used on BBQ and I doubt most folks would know that they are supermarket sauces. Now, I could have done these meats without any rub, which would have shown their potential flaws more, but, that is not how I use sauce.

The beans, these were made with a saute of onions and garlic, some chopped bacon and chopped apples. Once the vegetables were softened, I added some canned beans, some Kraft BBQ sauce, maybe 1/2 cup and some cider vinegar, bourbon, Red Boat and water, to cover the beans. I was going to cook them in the kettle under the meats, so there had to be plenty of fluid.



Aromatics and Vegetables





Ready for the Kettle

In the end, I ended up with a really good plate of BBQ, if you will allow chicken and sausage as BBQ, which I will, since it was cooked at 300F, over a live fire, and smoked with apple wood. The final result was a bowl of beans with a nice smoky profile, a good sweet base and some bite on the finish, nothing radical here, just good, solid, baked beans. I could easily jump off from here, with some pepper sauce, more aromatics and a little broth and these beans would have been a great bowl. I did add the smoked sausage, so the next time, they will be quite good.



Finished Baked Beans

The plated meats, with some fries and a cole slaw made from the Bulls-Eye sauce, some additional cider vinegar, black pepper and a little sugar. This was a really good cole slaw dressing and showed some surprising versatility. As a dipping sauce, the Bulls-Eye worked great on the sausage, a nice tangy sweetness to offset the sausage flavors. Both sauces on the chicken worked great, I would suspect nobody would pick them off as grocery store sauces if tasted blind. Finally, there were fries, just for kicks. The combined sauce really was tasty with the fries.



Chicken and Sausage Two-way

In the end, I think that these sauces could actually make for a great compliment to a barbequed meat meal, I certainly would not discount them. If I had been doing this cook on a weekend with more than a couple of hours to throw it together, I could really work these sauces into a great presentation. I certainly will not discount store bought sauces, in the end, you just need to cook with them.
 
Great post Bob! I appreciate the info. Everything looks great from here too. :clap:
 
Exactly how did you know what the true taste of the sauce was when you added rub to the meats? Not an unbiased test by any means.
 
Exactly how did you know what the true taste of the sauce was when you added rub to the meats? Not an unbiased test by any means.

I don't see the problem if it was all rubbed with the same rub...

Great info Bob! I quite like that Bulls-eye sauce! Never used that flavor but that's my go to when I'm in a pinch! :thumb::thumb:

Cheers
 
I tasted them, straight, from the bottle. One teaspoon each.

To be honest though, I never test sauces alone, other than to get a base line. Since I never cook sauce, I cook meats and put sauce on them, the only true test, to me, it to cook them as I would and evaluate them as I would in a real world situation. I recently was asked to test out some batches of a BBQ sauce for a local shop, I did a similar thing, I test them straight, then on meats, the only true way to tell if a sauce is worth it.

I am a very experienced wine, beer and food taster, I understand that the real test would be a double blind test, alone with a clean palate. But, that is not how I use or enjoy BBQ sauce. If I was doing this for competition, I would have used rub and sauce combinations, several permutations of each, to achieve a decision. But, this was more to see if the products are good, could they be great, would they work as a jumping off point.

Do I think the Kraft Original is as good as Blues Hog, Big Butz BBQ or Bart's Blazing Q sauce? No, not even close. But, do I think if I had to serve 300 people over two days, could I take a few gallons of this stuff and make it work, yeah, and nobody would know by the time I was done, that I was cooking out of a plastic bottle.
 
I don't see the problem if it was all rubbed with the same rub...

Great info Bob! I quite like that Bulls-eye sauce! Never used that flavor but that's my go to when I'm in a pinch! :thumb::thumb:

Cheers

Everything taste good with Simply Marvelous added.:thumb:
 
Everything taste good with Simply Marvelous added.:thumb:

...Not if you cover it in a crap sauce. (slight pun intended) :becky:

Even with SM though... You can still taste which sauce is "better." Plus doing it this way you can compare it better to when you're cooking for youself and fam and using the "better"sauces. You probably put that on top of SM too...
 
...Not if you cover it in a crap sauce. (slight pun intended) :becky:

Even with SM though... You can still taste which sauce is "better." Plus doing it this way you can compare it better to when you're cooking for youself and fam and using the "better"sauces. You probably put that on top of SM too...

So I guess when I want to test out rubs, I should slather the meat in sauce first?:biggrin1:
 
Some years ago, Bigabyte ran some tests on rub ingredients that stands as one of the best tests I have ever seen for getting a feel for how herbs and spices respond to smoke. Infernoo started down a path of making various sauces to test. Still, as great as those efforts were, rub and sauce affect each other greatly. No single test will determine anything. But, I like my little test here. I really believe, given the time, I could tweak these sauces enough to get a call at s comp. I know I could sell a bunch of BBQ with them.
 
Bob,

Thanks for the effort.
At the end of the day would you say that the sauces;
Met or exceeded your expectations?

(for the record I still don't like any BBQ sauce that can be considered sweet in any way)
 
Great Looking Grub!!!!!

I applaud your efforts and will not question the methodology as some others have :mad:

Thanks,

TIM
 
Thanks Bob, one thing I've known is that sauces absolutely cannot be taken on their own. I have made some absolutely delicious sauces that fell completely flat as soon as they were put on their intended dishes. Likewise, I have made some sauces that I felt tasted like crap that tasted excellent when they were applied to the dish. It makes it very difficult to assess a sauce.
 
John, the Bulls-Eye sauce was surprisingly bettwr than I expected. It is a little sweeter than my GCS (Generic Carolina Sauce) and too thick for my taste. But, I would not hesitate to consider using it. I suspect a lot of folks would choose this over my thinner, more sour, GCS sauce.

The Kraft Original was what I expected. A simplified overly sweet version of what BBQ sauce can be. It isn't bad, as one might expect, it is solidly not bad.

Certainly, a bottle of cider vinegar and some hot sauce and that Bulls-Eye would be quite good. The Kraft is more like sauce base, it needs a lot of fiddling with to make something great.
 
Yep Gore, I think evaluating sauce and rub can be quite tricky. I am always mindful of this. A good example was when I tried Uncle Sunny's sauce, it was terrific out of yhe bottle and terrific on picanha with my 'mother rub'. It was also quite good on baby backs with Yardbird. But, it was terrible on baby backs with 3-Eyz.

TnJimBob, I am a huge food snob in many ways, but, I am not one to hate on something based purely on where it comes from. These could be better, but, so could a lot of things.
 
For some reason, this thread reminds me of Walmart when they announced that they could sell organic produce for a measly 10% premium. They met lots of negative feedback. Even though it could be a decent product for a low cost, there are a lot of people who WANT to pay more so they can be special.
 
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