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We tried this stuff last night for the first time and it was awesome. We used it on shrimp, but it would be equally good for chicken or pork.




I just marinated the shrimp for about an hour or so with a little fresh cracked white pepper and gave them a once over on the cast iron. I picked up some fresh Japanese eggplant, okra & tomatoes. I added some salt, white pepper, a pinch of garlic powder, a pinch of onion powder, a couple dashes of Paul Prudhomme's Vegetable Magic, & avocado oil and cooked them at 375 covered for an hour and then uncovered them and covered them generously with Italian seasoned panko and cooked them another 20 minutes uncovered and then set the broiler on 400 for another 5 or so minutes to brown the top.

It wasn't a very heavy meal and it was fairly healthy, but we never felt slighted for flavor or satisfaction.


 
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I've figured for years that processed meats aren't that healthy so I eat them when I want but not all the time. This isn't going to change my habits though. The unhealthier foods are unfortunately the ones that taste good.
 
One of the biggest issues in this debate is the fact that the hot dogs and lunch meats of today are not what they were years ago. At one time hot dogs were called frankfurters made from quality ingredients and stuffed into a natural sheep casing which provided a great flavor, texture, and a snap when you bit into them. Even lunch meats had hand selected hand cut pieces of meat used in the process. The other bits of meat were sold to dog food processors.

In my opinion, the trash that goes into today's hot dogs and lunch meat products are mostly what was rejected in years past. The corporate mentality to increase profits by using less desirable pieces of meat in the process is a cancer of greed today's corporate food producers.

For those who have never had true frankfurters, sausages, or lunch meats made with good cuts of meat will never understand the difference. Today's normal products are made with mechanically separated meat (sometimes referred to as pink-slime). But the problem isn't all on the shoulders of the corporation's greed for profits, we as consumers also share in the blame because we allow them to produce it and we buy it.

Imagine if American consumers woke up one day and refused to buy this trash? They would have to produce a better product.

Go to a real butcher and buy handmade sausage, frankfurters, and lunch meats and see the difference in quality, yes you pay more, but you aren't buying trash meat; better yet make it yourself and control your own ingredients.

It's not the cure in the process that causes problems, the nitrites have dissipated into nitrite oxide when the cure is complete.

The fact is, most nitrate we consume comes from green vegetables. Nitrate we consume coverts to nitrite in our body, which is a anti-microbial agent in our digestive tract. Our own bodies product nitrites in our saliva to aid in safe digestion. To say that nitrites are bad for us is to say that the human body is flawed.

But that's my personal opinion, I still buy frankfurters from a butcher, I make my own sausage and hams because I want a better product that the trash that is offered at the store.

If we truly think with common sense and logic.... what are we really getting as ingredients for a $1.50 pack of hot dogs or lunch meat? You be the judge.

In closing I quote Michael Ruhlman.. http://ruhlman.com/2011/05/the-no-nitrites-added-hoax/
"Bacon is one of the greatest foods on the planet, but the food marketers are going to figure out a way to make you buy their bacon. So what they do is use celery powder and celery juice (note the asterisk on the label above) as their nitrate source (celery is loaded with nitrate) and are therefore are allowed to say no nitrites added. Why go to the trouble? Because we don’t know any better. Can we really be this stupid? I have only one word to say on this beyond an emphatic YES."

Also http://magazine.good.is/articles/your-nitrite-free-meats-are-full-of-nitrites
"In a world where organic “nitrite-free” meats are anything but, think twice before you slap some meat on the grill this weekend."

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"Earlier this year, Cook’s Illustrated tested different types of bacon and found that two brands of "nitrate-free" bacon had significantly more nitrites than their conventional counterpart. “If you want to avoid these compounds," they wrote, "you’ll have to avoid bacon—and any other processed meats containing celery juice—altogether."


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I eat hot dogs every time I'm in town at lunch 2 1/4 lbers and a bottle of water fer 3.10 is cheap fine dining usually a few time a week. I toss on big pack of Opas beef jalapeno & cheddar sausage every time I fire up the pit what I don't eat gets froze fer quick sandwiches or for use in other stuff. Bullets cure cancer.
 
Thanks for the Ruhlman link madman, interesting read. I like his sense of humor and his style. And your right, processed and deli meats aren't what they once were. Things change and evolve and just because information comes from the "gubment" doesn't mean it should be discounted, nor taken as the truth. Do your own homework...

Things change :shock:

 
The market supports cheaper products, cheaper meat products need to be made in a manner that utilizes more of the animal. In truth, we get mega-stores because most of us expect or need to buy at cheaper prices.

I buy most of my meats from a butcher, and often, I get grief about being a Hipster or whatever. And I poke fun at the Texas guys who get brisket at $1.97 a pound. Fact is, I pay a lot for meat, because I do care where it comes from and how it is treated. If more people did, then the market would change.
 
Chicken is high in phosphorous, my body can no longer process it, and the drugs I take to deal with it aren't helping.
 
Is this considered processed food ... I eat all the time.. In fact the doctor recommended it..... On another note... There are a lot of people that are on very tight budgets .. A pack of wieners... Or a baloney sandwich goes a long way.. I am fixing to eat a can of these at the refinery

 
Is this considered processed food ... I eat all the time.. In fact the doctor recommended it..... On another note... There are a lot of people that are on very tight budgets .. A pack of wieners... Or a baloney sandwich goes a long way.. I am fixing to eat a can of these at the refinery

Nah that's gotta be healthy!
 
I'm sorry, I hope I'm still on topic because I didn't read through the entire thread!

But anyways Fwismoker! All ya need to do now Is buy you a meat grinder, slicer, and sausage stuffer!! make your own sausages, hotdogs, and the whole 9 yards! If I could I would do this. But honestly I have to order my natural casings and crap off the internet UGH!
 
Is this considered processed food ... I eat all the time.. In fact the doctor recommended it..... On another note... There are a lot of people that are on very tight budgets .. A pack of wieners... Or a baloney sandwich goes a long way.. I am fixing to eat a can of these at the refinery


I grew up in the south and King Oscar Sardines, Jax / Falstaff beer would be Saturday lunch for my dad after mowing the yard.
 
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