Kosmo's Q
is one Smokin' Farker
- Joined
- Sep 24, 2006
- Location
- Mustang, Okla.
Got the Oklahoma call..... Dannngggg, Can't wait to see all of you bad a*#'s.... Time to represent the Brethren! Good luck to all, and Drinks are on Andy! LOL
Slap Yo Daddy got an automatic entry for 7 GCs. Looks like the New Mexico contest that they thought only had 24 teams had more than 25.
Congrats to all Brethren teams that are going to the Jack and a big :thumb: for the 2 CA teams: Smitty's Smoke Patrol & Slap Yo Daddy.
The whole thin g is messed up and someone should step up... whether that be the IBCA or the team that this went in favor of. Nothing.g should be handed to anyone. Silence is deafening.
And yeah Mista, I do have a problem. Don't matter how many GC's you have, that does not guarantee you pulling your bung for your state. So to say it doesnt hurt anyone else is false. It takes away a spot from some other team....
Date: 6-26-10 Event: 3rd Grillin N Chillin, Albuquerque, NM
Number of Teams: 27 Head Judge: Dana
Grand Champion: Harry Soo, Slap Yo Daddy
Reserve Grand Champion: Casey Nevarez, OKC's
The IBCA website says they were 27 teams. Is this being questioned as a non qualifier because of errors on the organizers part?
I was at the IBCA contest in Albuquerque and I, along with everyone else who was at the awards ceremony for this event, witnessed the following:
* Only 5 places were called in each of the four categories
* The tickets had been removed from the turn in trays prior to the awards ceremony
I spoke to Lynn Shivers regarding these two major irregularities a few days after the contest and she confirmed the following:
* The only time less than 10 places should be called in any category is when less than 10 entries are received. That was clearly not the case at this contest.
* Tickets should never be removed from the turn in trays prior to the awards ceremony. The reason for this is so as to guarantee that the correct ticket is called for the correct tray. This is from IBCA Rule 7 - "Winning numbers will not be revealed until time to announce each place in each category. At that time the secret numbers attached to the tray/cup will be removed and announced."
Lynn stated that these two violations of IBCA protocol and their blind judging system compromised the integrity of the contest and it could not be considered a qualifier for those reasons.
Furthermore, the following disclaimer appears on the contest results page on the IBCA website: "Only the top 5 places were called as directed by the Promoter - therefore without calling out the other 5 places - the true overall results of the event are not reflected." http://www.ibcabbq.org/results2010/re100626albuq.html
If the "true overall results of the contest are not reflected", how can this contest be considered as a qualifier?
This isn't the first time this has happened. Darren Warth back in'06 had 7 wins. His 7th only had 24 teams. It did not count. You have to put 'qualifying' contests on your Jack application. A 23 team contest, no matter what should be put on your application. I am both questioning Slap Your Daddy or anything ethical. What is right is right. I realize what Harry. Has done for comp cooking. No more than Brent Walton out West and he didn't get a free ride from the Jack... now that is an example, but there are many more if you want me to list them. But again, its not about Harry and his team.
I wasn't there, and have a couple of questions based on what I've heard..
Was pork an optional category for this contest? If so, was that fact known ahead of time?
How many teams were there?
I saw Lynn yesterday, but I didn't want to open that can of worms after a contest, and I suspect she'd heard enough about it at the time anyway.
Thanks Ford.
I am pretty sure (not 100%) that I was the only team that resided in Ohio that was in any State's barrel/draw - that is where my confusion lies. Assuming that I was the only Ohio team in the entire draw, I was of the mindset that I would be in even if I was not picked from the Ohio barrel/draw.