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Aaron Franklin’s Espresso BBQ Sauce

Makes about 7 cups.


  • 4 cups ketchup
  • 1 cup water
  • 1/2 cup cider vinegar
  • 1/2 cup distilled white vinegar
  • 6 tablespoons brewed espresso
  • 1/4 cup Worchestershire sauce
  • 2 tablespoons chili powder
  • 1 tablespoon kosher salt
  • 1 tablespoon coarsely ground pepper

[FONT=&quot]Combine all the ingredients in a saucepan and simmer over medium heat for 20 minutes. Let cool, cover and store for weeks.

Goes great with brisket. A big hit with the family and friends.
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I'll bite on this topic. Like most of you, I've tried any number of combos of recipes and tinkerings to make my own sauce or to soup up someone else's. Some of them have been fantastic. Others, not so much (Homemade Root Beer Sauce -- yuk!). And if I have the time, I love experimenting. But I'll be honest: I always have a bottle of SBR and Stubb's Original in the fridge. I also have an entire shelf on the door dedicated to miscellaneous odd bottles of this and that with a few drizzles left. Mostly I pick up an interesting bottle on a trip, or someone buys me a bottle for a gift, or I've traded bottles through @IAmMadMans trade site. Some of those are good and I save them. Some are dogs and I usually pitch them after they've gotten crusty waiting for me to give them an honorable passing.

But the reason I keep a couple of mainline bottles around is simple, and twofold: People like them. And they're easy.

As many sauces as I've tormented my family with over the years, they still go out of their way to slather SBR on everything. And sometimes I'm just too lazy/busy/whatever and I'll pour some Stubb's in the corner to dip. I find my guests like/trust the brands they're familiar with -- especially the less-adventurous types.

So while we can knock the mainline brands all we want, we have to recognize that for most of us, they still have a place on our table, even if we don't like it.

All of that said, I ABSOLUTELY FORBID A-1, Heinz 57, Lea & Perrins, or any other steak sauces on my table when I'm serving steak. That's a cardinal sin for me. :)
 
I can get some USA commercial / competition bbq sauces from Online shops in Netherland or directly from USA.
I understood I don't like smoked sauces. Only smoke I want/like is the one I choose for bbquing.
 
FYI, I do like Ketchup on Fries and Burgers. Its just that when i try a recipe for BBQ sauce and it calls for Ketchup, to me it always ends up tasting like....wait a minute...Seasoned Ketchup.
 
Use what you like and enjoy it! I can only speak for myself when I say I want nothing to do with liquid smoke. Smoked paprika is fine. My personal tastes are not aligned with anything store bought or mail ordered that I have tried.

I make my own and it is easy enough for me. I am happy...
 
Here is a sauce recipe with catsup.

½ to 1 cups broth or water, depending on desired thickness of sauce. I usually use
chicken broth or homemade pork broth, but plain ol water can work.
2 c ketchup
½ c packed brown sugar
½ c apple cider vinegar, no substitutes
½ c Worcestershire sauce
2 T molasses
1-2 t celery seed
2-3 T chili powder
1 t onion powder
¼ t garlic powder
¼ t hot pepper sauce, eg. Texas Pete, Tabasco
Optional 1 t juice from pickled jalapeños
¼ t black pepper
salt to taste, usually none is needed because Worcestershire is salty
1 (6-oz) can tomato paste

Stir all ingredients together in a non-reactive sauce pan, starting with the smallest amount of broth you think you might desire for your use. Start with med-hi heat and bring to a simmer. Reduce heat to med-low, stirring often. Simmer for about 20 mins. Adjust thickness with broth, sweetness with brown sugar, richness with chili powder, and spiciness with hot pepper sauce and black pepper. That’s all there is to it.
 
1-1-0.25 Heinz Chili Sauce, Bull's-eye original, and honey isnt too bad. The chili sauce taste less like Ketchup.
 
Nothing controversial about that! I have talked to folks who have developed sauces, rubs, etc. and the amount of time that they spend to get it to where they want it is crazy! There is no way that I can duplicate that effort. But, I do make my own rubs and sauces once in a while just for fun.

But, what I'll never figure out is why people care what the other guy uses. If some one chooses to buy their sauce or rub, why does anyone care as long as that person enjoys the result?

I couldn't agree more Ron:

The major hurdle in creating a good BBQ sauce is that it is too subjective to our own individual tastes. I am sure that five different tasters could sample the same product at the same time and give you five completely different reviews. Regional and ethnic tastes are the greatest variables in our own personal likes and dislikes. There are also so many different sauces to choose from, much like choosing a wine, many styles, many regions, and many twists.

Even pitmasters are divided on how BBQ sauce should be used. Some feel the meat should be bathed in sauce, where others only use it as a glaze or a finishing sauce, and yet many feel it should not be applied to the meat at all, but rather served on the side as a dipping sauce.

I don't really think there is a right or a wrong selection simply because choice is a matter of personal taste. We are all individuals; we vary in many ways, including our personal tastes. I have tasted some sauces that I think were really bad, but other people think it was the greatest sauce in the world, it's all a matter of preferred choice.

If we all had the same taste we would only need one type of BBQ sauce ever....

The first commercially sold BBQ sauce was made by the Georgia Barbecue Sauce Company in Atlanta, Georgia. Its sauce was advertised for sale in January of 1909. Heinz later released its barbecue sauce in 1940. (Robert F. Moss (2010). Barbecue: The History of an American Institution. University of Alabama Press. pp. 189–190.)

Most of the commercial BBQ sauces we find are a form of the "Kansas City" style of BBQ. The thick, sweet, and sometimes spicy, tomato & molasses based sauce. "Kansas City" style sauce is made from tomato purée, corn syrup, molasses and vinegar. It is also very popular to the commercial market because it has a very long shelf life. This type of sauce is somewhat similar to the British brown sauce.

British brown sauce is a mixture of varying combinations of tomatoes, molasses, tamarind, spices, vinegar, and sometimes raisins, dates, or anchovies. The taste varies from tart to sweet depending on the brand, with a tomato-peppery taste slightly reminiscent to Worcestershire sauce.

Other popular types of sauces are; the vinegar and pepper sauce of North Carolina believed to date back to the late 1700’s, as well as the traditional South Carolina Mustard Sauce which can be traced to the early German settlers in this region during the 18th century.


As far as making my own sauce, Working a full time job, and some contracts taking me out of town during the week, I find good commercial sauces to be a Godsend... Sometimes I barely make it through the weekend with some larger cooks, couldn't find time to make sauce if I wanted to.

I have different organizations and teams I cook for, most requesting a specific commercial sauce, where as others request something new to try. Consequently My cabinet has almost 100 bottles of sauce and about 20 different varieties to keep up with the demand. If that's what they want, that's what they get because the consumer is always right. I've posted pictures before, some say it's impossible to use all in a year, but nothing spends more than six months on the shelf, it goes that quick. However I do miss the Purple Pork Masters BBQ Sauce, that was always a big hit..





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But, what I'll never figure out is why people care what the other guy uses. If some one chooses to buy their sauce or rub, why does anyone care as long as that person enjoys the result?

Because online so many can't stand seeing others enjoying things they detest that don't fit their "bbq morals" and get upset when other's like it. This is one of my favorite internet meme's and I find it applies to a lot of posts here.
 
Liquid Smoke as a ingredient? I never paid any attention to that. If it tastes good to me thats all I need to know. But then again, I like a 50/50 mix of Sweet Baby Rays and Open Pit. :crazy:
 
But, what I'll never figure out is why people care what the other guy uses. If some one chooses to buy their sauce or rub, why does anyone care as long as that person enjoys the result?

For me its the opposite. It puzzles me why some people will cringe at the thought of using store bought BBQ sauce, yet the main ingredient in their "homemade" BBQ sauce is "Ketchup"

The reason I am in search of the "holy grail" of BBQ sauce is im tired of spending $5-$7 dollars a bottle via locally, and online just to end up disappointed.

So far my favorite BBQ sauce has been Dickey's Barbecue Pit "sweet" BBQ sauce.

I go there every so often and make a bunch of "to go" containers of the sauce. I think they sell their original sauce but not sure on the sweet. I will have to ask next time i go there.
 
But, what I'll never figure out is why people care what the other guy uses. If some one chooses to buy their sauce or rub, why does anyone care as long as that person enjoys the result?

And this my friends is the statement of the day. I have a friend who drowns his prime steak in Lea & Perrins. That's how he likes it, so who am I to tell him different? :grin:
 
While I'm not against liquid smoke in principle, I think that it's generally overused and really can overpower the sauce. I can't help but think that the reason it's so widely used is that the average American uses a gas grill, which of course means very minimal smoke flavor.

Just my $0.02,
John
 
Fillmore Farmer.... I like your controversial or unpopular rant.. LOL

Well, you know what they say....if ya can't cook, rant! :D

All of what you say makes sense to me except for the swipe at KC Masterpiece. It may not be the greatest sauce, but to my taste buds its not that different from Sweet Baby Rays, which I like and use quite often. Not sure why KC is so disliked on this forum.

SBR is the sweetest sauce I've ever tasted, that's why I mix it with a hearty bold sauce like Bullseye. FWIW, I may be wrong about KC...it was some other marginal brand in a jug on the lower shelf at Smart & Final.

While I'm not against liquid smoke in principle, I think that it's generally overused and really can overpower the sauce. I can't help but think that the reason it's so widely used is that the average American uses a gas grill, which of course means very minimal smoke flavor.

All I'm saying is that if you're cooking in a smoker then why double-up with some artificial distilled carbon scrapings? (which is how they derive liquid smoke). But you're absolutely right, if you're not using a smoker and just running a gasser, then yeah...cheat the meat with a shake or two of.....I'm sorry, I can't even type the words :loco:

I dunno guys, what I'm hearing is something along the lines of "different strokes for different folks" and "if it taste good and you like it, so be it" or even "don't worry about what sauce the other guy is using".

**the sentence below read in a thick Russian accent**

What about good old days when socialist BBQ party had only one sauce and everyone liked or else they disappeared. In Soviet Russia the meat smoke YOU! :icon_shy
 
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