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Should BBQ Sanctions Now Allow LP Gas for Teams (Pro and Backyard)

  • Yes - Allow LP Gas in Sanctioned Team Compititions

    Votes: 69 36.3%
  • No - Keep LP Gas out of Sanctioned Team Compititions

    Votes: 121 63.7%

  • Total voters
    190
  • Poll closed .
to make real bbq, you must use a piece of glass to magnify the sun to catch a leaf on fire. get your pile of leaves going to light your wood. Never use a match or lighter to start or you risk getting slammed by the REAL BBQ COUNCIL.
 
I'm good with it. At the Best of the Best held in Douglas GA any and all types of smokers are allowed.
It is wide open, may the best man win!
I don't recall gas winning...

Took 2nd in whole hog at Douglas a few years ago. Using a borrowed gas cooker. First ever whole hog for me, too. Might have won if I'd known what I was doing! :mrgreen:

Gas, electric, wood, pellet, charcoal...heat is farkin' heat. It's the LOVE and skill that wins.
 
to make real bbq, you must use a piece of glass to magnify the sun to catch a leaf on fire. get your pile of leaves going to light your wood. Never use a match or lighter to start or you risk getting slammed by the REAL BBQ COUNCIL.

I prefer to rub two sticks together...I'm gettin' pretty good at it! :cool::twisted:
 
Why not allow LP to be used (Smokers). I say open it up and let em in as the end product is what is being Judged, not the cooker. This could be the difference between a full comp and only 15 Teams due to echonomic times. The sanction better start thinking about this prior to event time to help organizers fill the event.\

BTW: The definition of True BBQ is a Farking Joke. My theory is take a bite of it and see if it is TRUE BBQ.
 
I tell you what Dallas. Let's leave that Geer and FE100 home and make everyone really equal. Let's cook on a hole in the ground with some metal thrown over it.

Come on Man:roll:

I'll cook on anything you can throw at me. That's why I have one of each. I enjoy learning how to cook on every conceivable type of cooker. I started out years ago with one of those little grills I saw advertised on a TV infomercial that used newspaper as fuel. Now for full disclosure we also have a Weber Summit grill at home. I don't use it much, wife loves it. It even has one of those little smoker boxes where you can add wood chips or pellets to get some smoke flavor but I wouldn't call anything that comes off of it BBQ.

One of the duties that I all feel we should do as BBQ Ambassadors is to help preserve the heritage of BBQ, which is cooking tough cuts of meat at low and slow temperatures over a wood fire. To allow gassers in a BBQ competition is a perversion of that. People already don't know the distinction between BBQ and grilling and if you throw gas into the mixture it will only perpetuate that myth. Judging solely by the final product when the final product is not authentic should not be rewarded. I'm sick and tired of PC all inclusive, kumbaya giberish! It's a BBQ copetition for God's sake and the use of gas in such is not a line I'm willing to cross. For those of you that want to include them, start your own BBQ society and allow them. I don't think you'll see any increase in attendance at competitions and you'll lose a lot of the mystique.

As far as the use of FEC's and other electronic devices as long as the are cooking with wood I don't have a problem with them and they are legal in the circuit that I cook in (KCBS). I've used them and have done well with them but in then end get more satisfaction out of using an offset. I cook all categories by myself and yes it is harder to do but I enjoy it. Are FEC's easier, in my opinion yes, without a doubt but I do get some satisfaction at tending a fire so I do it the hard way. Should I get degree of difficulty points for doing so, absolutely not. Judge the final product and give the cooks choice as to what sort of equipment to use as long as they are cooking over a wood source for heat.

Now if I were BBQ commissioner whose task was to preserve the heritage of BBQ, I'd make a few changes. I'd like to see cooks use tough cooks of meat (no Kobe or Wagu), I'd like to see cooks cook low and slow rather than use power cooking methodology. But I am not the BBQ commissioner so I'll play with the rules as they are and take my chances, but I will not compromise on the basic notion that BBQ requires cooking with wood or a wood product as the heat source. You've got to draw the line somewhere.
 
Its been proven over and over, its the cook not the cooker so sure why not. Can't wait tell some one runs out of gas.
Dave

Coming to a town near you soon: The Pillsbury/Kenmore World BBQ Championship.

Jack Daniel's RIP!
 
I'll cook on anything you can throw at me. That's why I have one of each. I enjoy learning how to cook on every conceivable type of cooker. I started out years ago with one of those little grills I saw advertised on a TV infomercial that used newspaper as fuel. Now for full disclosure we also have a Weber Summit grill at home. I don't use it much, wife loves it. It even has one of those little smoker boxes where you can add wood chips or pellets to get some smoke flavor but I wouldn't call anything that comes off of it BBQ.

One of the duties that I all feel we should do as BBQ Ambassadors is to help preserve the heritage of BBQ, which is cooking tough cuts of meat at low and slow temperatures over a wood fire. To allow gassers in a BBQ competition is a perversion of that. People already don't know the distinction between BBQ and grilling and if you throw gas into the mixture it will only perpetuate that myth. Judging solely by the final product when the final product is not authentic should not be rewarded. I'm sick and tired of PC all inclusive, kumbaya giberish! It's a BBQ copetition for God's sake and the use of gas in such is not a line I'm willing to cross. For those of you that want to include them, start your own BBQ society and allow them. I don't think you'll see any increase in attendance at competitions and you'll lose a lot of the mystique.

As far as the use of FEC's and other electronic devices as long as the are cooking with wood I don't have a problem with them and they are legal in the circuit that I cook in (KCBS). I've used them and have done well with them but in then end get more satisfaction out of using an offset. I cook all categories by myself and yes it is harder to do but I enjoy it. Are FEC's easier, in my opinion yes, without a doubt but I do get some satisfaction at tending a fire so I do it the hard way. Should I get degree of difficulty points for doing so, absolutely not. Judge the final product and give the cooks choice as to what sort of equipment to use as long as they are cooking over a wood source for heat.

Now if I were BBQ commissioner whose task was to preserve the heritage of BBQ, I'd make a few changes. I'd like to see cooks use tough cooks of meat (no Kobe or Wagu), I'd like to see cooks cook low and slow rather than use power cooking methodology. But I am not the BBQ commissioner so I'll play with the rules as they are and take my chances, but I will not compromise on the basic notion that BBQ requires cooking with wood or a wood product as the heat source. You've got to draw the line somewhere.

We have a winner, Wink!

Well stated, VERY WELL.

I am of the opinion that electricity or gas shouldn't be used at all in
competition (except initial lighting of the fire); which would nix the
rotating shelves thing...

However, as you said, should those of us who prefer our offset stick
eaters get some extra points? HELL NO. If I cant compete with
an FEC, then I should be using an FEC...
 
People already don't know the distinction between BBQ and grilling and if you throw gas into the mixture it will only perpetuate that myth.

I was thinking allowing Smokers that have gas assist, not grills.

You've got to draw the line somewhere.

It seems you have drawn the line right in front of you, not the good of BBQ competition. Using some of the legal means to cook BBQ in today's sanctioned events is already far from true BBQ. Either eliminate all the electronics/electricity allowed or allow LP Gas assisted Smokers.

Seems like the folks with the non-true BBQ sanctioned smokers wan't to critizise the allowance of LP Gas smokers. That is a bit hipacritical IMHO.

Oh well, Merry Cristmas and Happy New Years to Everyone and may your wishes turn into your blessings.
 
I was thinking allowing Smokers that have gas assist, not grills.

It seems you have drawn the line right in front of you, not the good of BBQ competition. Using some of the legal means to cook BBQ in today's sanctioned events is already far from true BBQ. Either eliminate all the electronics/electricity allowed or allow LP Gas assisted Smokers.

Seems like the folks with the non-true BBQ sanctioned smokers wan't to critizise the allowance of LP Gas smokers. That is a bit hipacritical IMHO.

Oh well, Merry Cristmas and Happy New Years to Everyone and may your wishes turn into your blessings.

Merry Christmas to you too! It sounds what you want is an all inclusive BBQ* contest. If that's what you wan't go for it. This is still America! KCBS was nothing more than a dream until the idea was put in motion many, many years ago!
 
I'd like to see cooks cook low and slow rather than use power cooking methodology. But I am not the BBQ commissioner so I'll play with the rules as they are and take my chances, but I will not compromise on the basic notion that BBQ requires cooking with wood or a wood product as the heat source. You've got to draw the line somewhere.

Ok you are telling me you run lo and slo on a Jambo? Are you kidding me?
 
Ok you are telling me you run lo and slo on a Jambo? Are you kidding me?

A Jambo will run anyway you want it too, low and slow or hot and fast! Jamie told me his preference is 245, most cookers that I've seen use them, like 300 even better. A jambo is like a racehorce, just need to fire it up, kick in the belly, and say hahhhhhhhhhh!
 
Here's my objection to gas. Even with UL or similar approved devices there is a real possibility for an explosion. Because of the proximity of other teams and fans, 20x20 ft sites, I think it is a recipe for disaster.
 
Here's my objection to gas. Even with UL or similar approved devices there is a real possibility for an explosion. Because of the proximity of other teams and fans, 20x20 ft sites, I think it is a recipe for disaster.

QDoc - Great Point but look around your next event and see all of the 20/30 lb LP Tanks for personal use (Not used on Smokers except ignite Sticks / Charcoal. Maybe an inspection of LP could be added to the meat inspection, if Team has LP on smoker.
 
I wouldn't know what to do with it... one of the by products of the combustion of LP gas is water, which would throw off the smokey goodness. Not that I have any objection to LP based on "True-Q" or anything, but the safety concern is there, as well as, if you toss a gas inspection ON TOP of the site/meat inspection, you would have to have at least 1-2 MORE persons from the sanctioning body on site, which could certainly reduce the offset in prize money/awards if the rep is paid out of the contest fees...

Just my thoughts...


Merry Christmas to all!
 
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Here's my objection to gas. Even with UL or similar approved devices there is a real possibility for an explosion. Because of the proximity of other teams and fans, 20x20 ft sites, I think it is a recipe for disaster.

QDoc - Great Point but look around your next event and see all of the 20/30 lb LP Tanks for personal use (Not used on Smokers except ignite Sticks / Charcoal. Maybe an inspection of LP could be added to the meat inspection, if Team has LP on smoker.

We have had brothers on here escape death, after igniter explosions. (Thank God, Jim) Many OkieJoe/Horizon, Bates, etc. offsets have a gas igniter similar to a fireplace igniter in them.... then you have all the brushburners, etc... and propane stove/chimney starters...

At the LP Que, you could not use a Gas pit that did not have a certified ignition system with a safety valve/thermocouple. You do bring up a GREAT point, but I would say you have a higher chance of issues today, than if you had LP on the radar for safety concerns. Anyone could have that igniter line open just a touch.... go to start thier fire and blow the doors off, with all that LP settled down in the bottom.

Nice to see that brought up.... if alot of people used gas cookers, it would definately be a concern to ensure there were rules to address... (i.e. a list of certified gas cookers that are allowed, or a process by which to get your unit approved, or prove it is UL or another sanctioning body SPEC). My guess is the only guys that would use it, are ones that have the pits they use in that fashion for catering/vending, and it would give them a way to utilize thier existing rig in a comp... cooking in a fashion they already are familiar with.

I dont see anyone using a lang, switching to gas :wink: Or a pellet pooper switching to gas either.... Now maybe those guys using electric cookers out there like a bradley, or amerique, or masterbuilt.... would be up in arms at that point :twisted: What about electric cookers with wood chip boxes..... hmmmm
 
I dont see anyone using a lang, switching to gas :wink:

Andy - Ben Lang offers a LP Gas option for those that cater and would start with sticks and switch to LP at bed time. Lets face it, meat only absorbs the smoke till it's surface temp reaches a Top Secret Temp:icon_shy.
 
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