Thanks everybody! Redhot's going to look for and post the recipe and link she found for the puddin. She sifted through a bunch before deciding on one, as the last time she had made pudding from scratch was a few years ago. Banana pudding is basically a vanilla pudding though, but you've got to have ripe bananas so buy them several days in advance if they're shiny yellow. The ones I got Thursday had just started browning just a tad on the skins so they'd be ready by Saturday. Use the good Nilla brand wafers too, or your favorite if you have a good local brand. Makes a difference. The pudding takes a while to make on the stove top, and it seemed like she had to watch and stir it with the whisk just almost constantly. Kinda like risotto in a way: it's right when it's right. Watching Michele make the meringue was fun though. All in all, I think she put more effort in that one dessert than I did for the rest of the entire meal. It was gooooooooooooood. It will be even better today.