If this exam is similar to the Master CBJ exam, then I am truly disappointed!!! I always felt that the Master's exam would be much more difficult and truly test the knowledge of CBJs! I still have a few contests to judge before taking the Master exam, but this test is too easy IMHO.
Must be a regional thing... It's ALWAYS Judge 6 that makes us crazy around here...:boxing:I think it is a great start and KCBS gets kudos and should be encouraged to continue to put out additional such test. This was pretty easy but it brings it all to the forefront of a persons thinking, keeps it fresh in the mind and can help bring uniformity to the judging process. Plus, it may have been easy for most but think of the help it can be to that pesky judge number 5 who makes all cooks crazy. keith
I think it is a great start and KCBS gets kudos and should be encouraged to continue to put out additional such test. This was pretty easy but it brings it all to the forefront of a persons thinking, keeps it fresh in the mind and can help bring uniformity to the judging process. Plus, it may have been easy for most but think of the help it can be to that pesky judge number 5 who makes all cooks crazy. keith
no matter how much online education judges get, it still comes down to appearance, taste, tenderness.
if i judge a rib a 9 and judge 5 judges it a 6, no online continuing education is going to change that. the education should come from the judges and tc at the table while we're waiting for the next turn in.
i don't believe cook teams are interested in knowing if judges know how many contests are required to get the master rating or if kcbs can establish leftover policy.
i have never been judge 5.
its a start
Lake dogs question Is a good one. As long as there are 6 pieces total it Is a legal box. As for cooking with more than one team. I would do it again. I would love to cook with Tippycanoe,Quau, munchin hogs at the Hilton, just to mention a few. Lol. Keith
well, i've been educated. thanks.
that should be a test question.
Same with the brisket & burnt ends, or pulled & sliced pork. As long as there are 6 pieces, it doesnt matter what cut. Doesn't have to be 6 of the "same thing"; just 6 pieces of the qualifying meat.
I'd say 40% or more of judges dont get this. Or, they score down because they wanted the slice and only got a pulled chunk, etc. Can't do it. Judge what you have, regardless of what "else" was presented. Probably 60% of judges make this mistake.
I'd like to see the test a little more focused on judging; judging MEAT. Also, you wouldn't believe the amount of comments about garnish, not being even, too much, too little, etc. We're "supposed" to be ignoring the garnish. Seriously, probably 30% or more of judges fall into this trap.
Same with the brisket & burnt ends, or pulled & sliced pork. As long as there are 6 pieces, it doesnt matter what cut. Doesn't have to be 6 of the "same thing"; just 6 pieces of the qualifying meat.
I'd say 40% or more of judges dont get this. Or, they score down because they wanted the slice and only got a pulled chunk, etc. Can't do it. Judge what you have, regardless of what "else" was presented. Probably 60% of judges make this mistake.
I'd like to see the test a little more focused on judging; judging MEAT. Also, you wouldn't believe the amount of comments about garnish, not being even, too much, too little, etc. We're "supposed" to be ignoring the garnish. Seriously, probably 30% or more of judges fall into this trap.
I'd like to see the test a little more focused on judging; judging MEAT. Also, you wouldn't believe the amount of comments about garnish, not being even, too much, too little, etc. We're "supposed" to be ignoring the garnish. Seriously, probably 30% or more of judges fall into this trap.
Mind you, I think KCBS's efforts here are needed and this is certainly a good start. However, I think they'd be better served by a few more judging meats questions and a few less procedural questions.
Our CBJ instructor devoted a whole slide and considerable discussion to this question. He said you don't really even need to alert the table captain, just remove the hair and go on. The reasoning was that you don't know where that hair came from...could have been the cook, the table captain, or one of the other judges.
Not a judge here but I find this interesting...up here in PNWBA land a hair is considered a foreign object and is cause for a DQ...so...is this not the case for KCBS?
I got 47/50. Still an A! :thumb: I don't necessarily agree it's TOO easy. I agree with Ed - no point in making people over think it. My problem is that several of these questions have no place in a CBJ test... for instance legal fuel sources. That doesn't even come into play for judges. I'd also like to see more scenarios played out with multiple choice solutions.
I got 100% 50/50, but agree that the decimal point score was kind of bogus, but that's looking at it from a cooks standpoint, not a judges. Many judges leave prior to awards, and may never have seen a team score sheet, so I think the KCBS point of view is for folks not to give a 7.5 on a category or the like.