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VEGAN BBQ JACKFRUIT PULLED ‘PORK’ SANDWICHES
Mmmm.. Brisket...
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No thanks.
You can live in the 18th century if you so choose. Or you can enjoy the modern conveniences of the 21st century.
VEGAN BBQ JACKFRUIT PULLED ‘PORK’ SANDWICHES
Mmmm.. Brisket...
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BBQ "ethics"? I came here thinking there was some new animal I could cook. Now I'm disappointed. I wasted my first post on this.
Those of you who've explored these issues for yourselves, how have you moved forward? How do you justify your support of the factory farming industry?
I guess what I'm getting at is that given what I know to be true about the negative effects of factory farmed meat, I'm looking for better reasons than a fat, full belly and dogpiss cider to continue enjoying the delicious bounties of modern human civilization.
This is true, but extremism brings in donations. Especially since they have that reputation now. Similar to the NRA in a lot of ways.Oddly enough only chicken has bothered me so far. Perdue specifically.
Very odd some of these chickens are bred to grow very quickly. So large are their breasts that they can't stand. Some get sores and broken legs and other ailments.
Perdue is what we buy. Now there are videos from both Peta and from Perdue chicken farmers. Which one is telling the truth? Peta or Perdue? Both have an agenda. Imo I don't know. Imo the truth is somewhere in the middle. Peta probably finds the worst offenders who are cruel. Perdue finds the best farmers possible to show how humanely their chicken is raised.
It would be nice if Peta really worked towards eithical treatment of animals but in reality they are about trying to shame and ruin hard working folks that are not cruel to animals right along with the animal abusers. So no one listens to them at all even if at times they may have a valid point. They yelled wolf one to many times and now they are a joke.
Problem is you have no give and take on either side. In reality to some level killing an animal is cruel its part of life. There does imo need to be an effort to limit the cruelty but it will never be completely cruelty free.
Groups like Peta need to overhaul their image. They need to accept meat is a part of life that is not going away. The best thing for them to do is stop shaming hard working farmers and folks that eat meat. They need to try to blow the whistle on folks that are being more cruel than necessary and shut them down. Problem is I think they will have a tough time overhauling their image at this point. To many folks despise them for their position. If anything I think it allows truly cruel animal abusers to get away with being more cruel than is necessary or acceptable. Why? No one listens to anyone trying to call out animal abusers.
I buy perdue its .79 lb for leg quarters its cheap and feeds the family. That is my only justification its cheap. Maybe not the answer your looking for but we have a very tight budget to get debt free in less than a year. I am not happy about the alleged abuses but my families financial security comes first.
If you want big chicken breast try GFS. Last summer a co-worker and I split a sale on 40lbs of chicken breasts. They were the biggest I've ever seen. One breast could feed two people easily. I named them "Dinobreasts".Oddly enough only chicken has bothered me so far. Perdue specifically.
Very odd some of these chickens are bred to grow very quickly. So large are their breasts that they can't stand. Some get sores and broken legs and other ailments.
Perdue is what we buy. Now there are videos from both Peta and from Perdue chicken farmers. Which one is telling the truth? Peta or Perdue? Both have an agenda. Imo I don't know. Imo the truth is somewhere in the middle. Peta probably finds the worst offenders who are cruel. Perdue finds the best farmers possible to show how humanely their chicken is raised.
It would be nice if Peta really worked towards eithical treatment of animals but in reality they are about trying to shame and ruin hard working folks that are not cruel to animals right along with the animal abusers. So no one listens to them at all even if at times they may have a valid point. They yelled wolf one to many times and now they are a joke.
Problem is you have no give and take on either side. In reality to some level killing an animal is cruel its part of life. There does imo need to be an effort to limit the cruelty but it will never be completely cruelty free.
Groups like Peta need to overhaul their image. They need to accept meat is a part of life that is not going away. The best thing for them to do is stop shaming hard working farmers and folks that eat meat. They need to try to blow the whistle on folks that are being more cruel than necessary and shut them down. Problem is I think they will have a tough time overhauling their image at this point. To many folks despise them for their position. If anything I think it allows truly cruel animal abusers to get away with being more cruel than is necessary or acceptable. Why? No one listens to anyone trying to call out animal abusers.
I buy perdue its .79 lb for leg quarters its cheap and feeds the family. That is my only justification its cheap. Maybe not the answer your looking for but we have a very tight budget to get debt free in less than a year. I am not happy about the alleged abuses but my families financial security comes first.
Oddly enough only chicken has bothered me so far. Perdue finds the best farmers possible to show how humanely their chicken is raised.
It would be nice if Peta really worked towards eithical treatment of animals but in reality they are about trying to shame and ruin hard working folks that are not cruel to animals right along with the animal abusers.There does imo need to be an effort to limit the cruelty but it will never be completely cruelty free.
Groups like Peta need to overhaul their image. They need to accept meat is a part of life that is not going away. The best thing for them to do is stop shaming hard working farmers and folks that eat meat.
80% of this country live in urban areas and there would be no way to feed these people without factory farming for both meat and produce. Since farming started being mechanized about 150+ years ago the population has increased 700% partly because of the abundance of food from mechanized farming. As a result we have developed a society that is so dependent on this technology that a major portion of the worlds population would probably die if it were shut off.
James Burke called this the “technology trap” when he presented it in the first episode of “connections” tv serious back in the 1978. Here is the episode. https://youtu.be/XetplHcM7aQ
Chris
Wow, a lot of yall are acting like complete asses. Lots of justifications without actually addressing the topic. "starving children" is a cop out, too. The US alone wastes enough food each year to damn near feed the rest of the world combined. There a big difference in our massive, factory farming operations and free roaming animals.
To the OP, it's all about money. You have to be willing to support those smaller farms. It's significantly more expensive and time consuming to raise animals in a better environment. You won't find those easter weekend 1.39/lb briskets.