Contest Announcment Battle of the BBQ Brethren, Long Island, NY

biggs98 said:

It may have been the way it was last year but last year it was 1 out of 5 categories. This year its 1 out of 2 and 1 doesn't count.

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For the sake of accuracy, less I've gone senile, last year th hot dog didn't count (it ws separate from the overall grilling, and two fo the entries wer on-sit, teh iron chef and dessert. So it was 2 out of 4 last year.

As I understnad it, this year the hot dog is also separate, and there are two entries for the girlling, entree' plus dessert or appetizer. So it is still 2 on-site elemnents with the 2 turn-in boxes eliminated, or 2 out of 2 for the grilling competition.

Obviously the on-site judging at 100% is greater than last year, but it jumped from 50% (2 of 4) and not 20% (1 of 5).



The rules are what they are and we are looking forward to having some fun again.

Cue's Your Daddy said:

Joe,
If you really look at it, you can actually put all 4 grilling categories into your iron chef this year. Think of it as an app contest, meat or fish, desert and so forth.

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I can see that and thats fine. It is what it is. I was just trying to see if there was anyone else out there that felt the way I do.....I guess not. I'm not going to beat a dead horse, I said my opinion/thoughts so thats that.
I can't wait for the contest, its going to be a fun weekend and hopefully a cool weekend. Hudson Valley was really hot and humid. Us big guys do better in the cooler weather.:mrgreen:

timzcardz said:

For the sake of accuracy, less I've gone senile, last year th hot dog didn't count (it ws separate from the overall grilling, and two fo the entries wer on-sit, teh iron chef and dessert. So it was 2 out of 4 last year.

As I understnad it, this year the hot dog is also separate, and there are two entries for the girlling, entree' plus dessert or appetizer. So it is still 2 on-site elemnents with the 2 turn-in boxes eliminated, or 2 out of 2 for the grilling competition.

Obviously the on-site judging at 100% is greater than last year, but it jumped from 50% (2 of 4) and not 20% (1 of 5).



The rules are what they are and we are looking forward to having some fun again.

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Maybe you are going senile but thats none of my buisness. Eat more fish it helps the nourish the brain. I know last year the iron chef/desert was judged on site and thats fine. But there were different scores for each one making it seperate. This year its together for a combined score. Last year you got judged for 5 categories 1. Pizza 2. Fatty 3. Iron chef 4. Desert 5. Hot Dogs(optional) This year 1.entree/desert or app 2. Hot Dogs(optional).
Like I said in my last post, it is what it is. I was just throwing it out there to see if anyone else felt the same way I do...thats all. I'm not trying to hate on the event or anything. I've been looking forward to it since last year.(especially since its really close to my house..lol) Plus I wanted to improve on my 2nd place pizza....lol

biggs98 said:

I know last year the iron chef/desert was judged on site and thats fine. But there were different scores for each one making it seperate. This year its together for a combined score.

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Intersting. My take was that there were two separate items being scored, one being the entree and the other being the app/dessert.



ERIC,

Can you clarify if the scoring is just all together, or separately for the entree and the app/dessert?

Let me try to clear things up.

Last year, reading the competitors feedback much of it had a common issue, "fun, but too much work". The onsite judging of entrée and dessert took alot of attention, and the fatty and pizza in the 9x9 detracted from that. It also complicated the judging process having 2 categories in the tent, and 2 onsite. The judges also complained of WAYYYY to much food.
This year, taking the competitors feed back into consideration and to allow competitors to concentrate on the onsite portion, fattys and pizza were eliminated. Again the goal is to bring out creativity and originality, not only in presentation but your recipes, but without overburdening everyone. If this years feedback reflects a preference for more catagories, they will be back in 2010. The organizers are going out of their way to cater to the competitors wishes and really did take the feedback forms into consideration.


We have taken down the walls for the onsite judging. There are very few contstraints.
The presentation window is 20 minutes long.
I think I read this somewhere(someone please confirm)

The onsite is TWO CATAGORIES, judged as 2 categories. Presented however you want.

How your serve the judges and your presentation is ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. BE AS CREATIVE AND ORIGINAL AS YOU WANT!

Here are some examples of choices. They're not meant to be the only options, just the ones I can think of.


Eric, please correct me if Im wrong.

• Serve the appitizers, have judges sampling that while you carve the entree and serve it
• or serve the entree and be finishing up your desert and scooping the ice cream while they sample.
• Serve Family style in a big platter, let the judges take form the platters just as they would a 9x9,
• or have a place setting ready for each judge and or carve and serve yourself from a steamship roast.

The goal here is to bring out creativity outside of the 9x9. As long as the judge gets 2 catagories to sample in those 20 minutes, you have done your job.

The judges will score each SEPERATLY. The entree gets one score card and the other(appitizer or desert) gets one score card.

You may cook sides or other things to go along and add to presentation, but they will be considered like a garnish and not scored. If you decide to do this, make sure the judges know which they are scoring.


Creativity is your appearance/presentation score.
Originality is the originality of your recipe.
Taste is..well.. the taste. :mrgreen:


Hope this clears things up.

so then let me get this straight....
the grilling contest has two categories, entree and appetizer or dessert?
both are being judged in 3 separate areas, taste, creativity and originality?
both must represent the same specific culinary nationality or region?
we may or may not have a secret ingredient that must be used in the preparation of the both categories?
we will have a group of 6 judges and a table captain visit our site for 20 minutes but we will not be given a time when they will be there?
we are expected to have seats at a table for them and no walls on the ez-ups?
we can serve them our entries in any way we see fit?
4 categories is too much food for the judges?
what are the few constraints?
remind me to miss this cooks meeting...........

I've got another question about the grilling portion . Let's say i wanted to do cheeseburgers for my entree. Do I need to make them all the same for the judges or can I provide the burgers/buns and then put out condiments(lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles,bacon...etc..) for them to assemble the way they like?

deez20 said:

I've got another question about the grilling portion . Let's say i wanted to do cheeseburgers for my entree. Do I need to make them all the same for the judges or can I provide the burgers/buns and then put out condiments(lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles,bacon...etc..) for them to assemble the way they like?

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BBQchef33 said:

How your serve the judges and your presentation is ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.

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Steve, it seems pretty clear.

I imagine that if you wanted to, you could have an hibachi on the table and have them grill it themselves!


Heck, we've gone and hired a Victoria's Secret model for the day and will be serving our entries upon her naked body laid out on the table. We just have to work out a few kinks though. In our practice cook, her constant complaining about the food burning her got a bit annoying, and that screech she lets out if you accidentally poke her with the fork hurts ones ears.

timzcardz said:

Heck, we've gone and hired a Victoria's Secret model for the day and will be serving our entries upon her naked body laid out on the table. We just have to work out a few kinks though. In our practice cook, her constant complaining about the food burning her got a bit annoying, and that screech she lets out if you accidentally poke her with the fork hurts ones ears.

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LMAO......First laugh of the day and a good one at that, Thanks.:lol:

Does anyone know about the Hot Dogs?....Are those going to be judged on site or not?

JimDandysNYDan said:

LMAO......First laugh of the day and a good one at that, Thanks.:lol:

Does anyone know about the Hot Dogs?....Are those going to be judged on site or not?

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Here you go.

motoeric said:

From the Grilling Rules:

'There will be a Hot Dog category that will not count towards the Grilling Grand Championship. Teams will be provided with Sabrett hot dogs and will have free reign to do with them what they will. Standard grilled dogs, pigs in a blanket, chili dogs, hot dog tempura, franks and beans, etc.'

This will be a normal turn-in item. The time for turn-ins will most likely be 1:00 pm.

As was the case last year, NEBS can't or won't sanction the Battle of the BBQ Brethren. I believe that our grilling falls outside of their purview due to its on-site nature.

Eric

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Thanks, I should have read that a little more carefully...

timzcardz said:

Heck, we've gone and hired a Victoria's Secret model for the day and will be serving our entries upon her naked body laid out on the table. We just have to work out a few kinks though. In our practice cook, her constant complaining about the food burning her got a bit annoying, and that screech she lets out if you accidentally poke her with the fork hurts ones ears.

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Hey Bro- you do realize if my wife sees this it will just be you and your son cooking.

And let's not mention the hot dogs.

Muzzlebrake said:

so then let me get this straight....
the grilling contest has two categories, entree and appetizer or dessert? Right
both are being judged in 3 separate areas, taste, creativity and originality? Right
both must represent the same specific culinary nationality or region? Right
we may or may not have a secret ingredient that must be used in the preparation of the both categories? No, if there is something, it will be becase it was donated by a sponsor and can be used it either or both.

we will have a group of 6 judges and a table captain visit our site for 20 minutes but we will not be given a time when they will be there? Wrong. You will be given the time window, and how many judges depends on how many teams sign up. KCBS reps will figure that out and let everyone know that morning also. They are familiar with the process and have it done it at other contests.
We are expected to have seats at a table for them and no walls on the ez-ups? However u want. Tables and chairs will be available and can be brought to your site by event staff if you want. EZ up is up to you. (*EDIT*: If some team need it, a few tables will be available from the judging tent for the onsite judging, but must be returned after grilling for the KCBS judging. Since its a limited supply, its recommended you have your own table).
we can serve them our entries in any way we see fit? Right
4 categories is too much food for the judges? Cant comment. Feedback form to chamber organizers said yes.
What are the few constraints? Must be present to win. Must cook on site, must use wood or charcoal for primary heat source for both catagories.
Remind me to miss this cooks meeting. See previouis rule..

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<*sigh*>

minor clarification to ... "NEBS can't or won't sanction" ...

NEBS just doesn't get involved in on-site judging...
it isn't covered in the NEBS Grilling Rules.
(which were developed so that every competitor knows what to expect when going into a NEBS sanctioned event...)

It sure looks like Sayville will be an awesome time!
I'm sad to miss it, especially when it looks as though baseball playoffs are right around the same time... :twisted:

May the best win! (I'm talking food here!) :lol:

OK am I missing something? I don't see the post that Poobah just quoted

Muzzlebrake said:

OK am I missing something? I don't see the post that Poobah just quoted

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It's your post, number 129 in this thread.

So yes, I guess you are missing something!