billygbob
Knows what a fatty is.
From the Quick Notes from the Board 10-13-10 on KCBS web site:
Rules Committee - Candy Weaver
"...due to a number of different factors, KCBS is evolving to a 3 or 4 number scoring system (i.e., 6-7-8-9), which leads to higher scores and more 180s..."
New Ideas Committee - Merl Whitebook
"...when it appears that a CBJ statistically is inconsistent in scoring (+/- 2 from the mean of the overall contest results,) at two or more contest, in a 12 month period, the CBJ will be mentored by the CBJ Chairperson. ... The motion was seconded by Ed Roith."
So here is one BOD member stating that judges don't use all the numbers and another BOD member motioning to effectively penalize members that do use all the numbers (seconded by the CBJ Committee - Ed Roith: No Report member).
Dollar-to-your-dime that that judging will become a 7-8-9 score contest because you are penalized for actually giving the correct score. In nine years as a CBJ and six as a CTC I know as a fact that many judges do not give less than a 6 because "that's low enough they won't win" and too many that won't give less than a 7 or 8 because "the cooks work hard and spend a lot of money". When I score my 3 or 4 for taste and tenderness on a burnt, dry piece of chicken and everyone else gives a 6 or 7 or 8 I'm the one that is considered the "outlier" and need a talking to - or banned.
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I think drbbq on The BBQ Forum has it nailed: "This sounds like my 7yo girls soccer games. Give everyone 9's and a ribbon... and a box of juice".
If the BOD wants to track something, check for the judges that never score out of the same two numbers. I guarantee that over five contests (120 entries give or take - 5 contests x 4 meats x 6 entries) that if that judge never got a piece of crap, or something he'd like to have more of, then you've identified the real problem.
The real issue is that some judges are not scoring "honestly", either out of best intent or attitude. That doesn't eliminate the fact every judge has a different perspective, or the fact every piece of meat is not identical; there will be differences in scores. But if every judge gave an honest score then much of the outcry could be addressed.
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Rules Committee - Candy Weaver
"...due to a number of different factors, KCBS is evolving to a 3 or 4 number scoring system (i.e., 6-7-8-9), which leads to higher scores and more 180s..."
New Ideas Committee - Merl Whitebook
"...when it appears that a CBJ statistically is inconsistent in scoring (+/- 2 from the mean of the overall contest results,) at two or more contest, in a 12 month period, the CBJ will be mentored by the CBJ Chairperson. ... The motion was seconded by Ed Roith."
So here is one BOD member stating that judges don't use all the numbers and another BOD member motioning to effectively penalize members that do use all the numbers (seconded by the CBJ Committee - Ed Roith: No Report member).
Dollar-to-your-dime that that judging will become a 7-8-9 score contest because you are penalized for actually giving the correct score. In nine years as a CBJ and six as a CTC I know as a fact that many judges do not give less than a 6 because "that's low enough they won't win" and too many that won't give less than a 7 or 8 because "the cooks work hard and spend a lot of money". When I score my 3 or 4 for taste and tenderness on a burnt, dry piece of chicken and everyone else gives a 6 or 7 or 8 I'm the one that is considered the "outlier" and need a talking to - or banned.
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I think drbbq on The BBQ Forum has it nailed: "This sounds like my 7yo girls soccer games. Give everyone 9's and a ribbon... and a box of juice".
If the BOD wants to track something, check for the judges that never score out of the same two numbers. I guarantee that over five contests (120 entries give or take - 5 contests x 4 meats x 6 entries) that if that judge never got a piece of crap, or something he'd like to have more of, then you've identified the real problem.
The real issue is that some judges are not scoring "honestly", either out of best intent or attitude. That doesn't eliminate the fact every judge has a different perspective, or the fact every piece of meat is not identical; there will be differences in scores. But if every judge gave an honest score then much of the outcry could be addressed.
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