Hey brethren Did another butt and decided to try some spares. I wasn't pleased with them but the wife said they were the best she has ever had.(dont know if it was to make me feel good or if it was true :mrgreen That said I am cooking on a brinkman vertical ( i know not the best cooker out there but it was free and Im working on a UDS) and temps were a bear to keep stable, but this is what I ended up with.