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I put together this Top Ten list of turkey tips for a Thanksgiving article and thought it might be a helpful thread if everyone added some of their tips too.

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10. If you are a novice when it comes to cooking a turkey (or if you are going to try new side dishes this year), do a practice cook.

9. Need a change of pace? Try to borrow a turkey fryer. It’s a good idea to invite the owner over for instruction and a practice cook, these things are a little tricky but a fried turkey is wonderful.

8. Don’t cook dressing in the bird. This can lead to an overcooked bird or undercooked dressing. Instead, cook dressing in a separate pan. (In fact, I like to make two kinds). Some simple aromatics can be placed in the cavity of the bird; try a couple of green onions, a lemon slice or two or some herbs.

7. Consider brining your turkey. This can add some moisture and flavor to the bird.

6. Buy a name brand bird.

5. If you buy a frozen bird, thaw it according to instructions on the package. Usually the best method is to thaw in the refrigerator, in the original packaging. This will take 2 or 3 days depending on the size.

4. Bake your turkey breast down for 1.5 to 2 hours, then turn breast up and finish cooking, this helps to keep the breast moist. (Do this even if you use Tip # 3.)

3. Trying to get the dark meat done without overcooking the breast has always been a challenge. One hour before the bird goes in the oven, fill a large zipper bag with crushed ice and set it in a roasting pan on the counter. Take the bird out of the refrigerator and place it breast down on the ice pack (only the breast should be resting on the ice pack). During this hour, the temperature of the dark meat will rise and the temperature of the breast will remain the same or even cool a bit. This slows the cooking of the breast, and gives the dark meat a head start. Remove the ice pack and cook as usual.

2. Try to buy a fresh turkey. You might have to place your order up to two weeks ahead, but the quality and flavor is worth the extra price.

And the number one Thanksgiving turkey tip is …

1. Use a thermometer to judge doneness. Don’t rely on time alone. Check temperature often toward the end of the cook. I shoot for no more than 160° * in the breast and 175° or so just above the leg, and watch to make sure the juices run clear. Allow for a 15 minute rest before carving.
*USDA recommends 165°. Just like other meats, expect a rise in temperature while the bird rests on the cutting board.
 
Thanks for putting this together Wayne.

If we do turkey this year, Im going to try the ice bag and keeping breast meat cooler while the dark meat warms up.
 
I like number 3. I'll probably try that this year.

I stuff the cavity loosely with apples, onions, carrots and celery while cooking. The fruit and veggies add flavor to the meat and also add moisture. Plus, the apples and veggies can be eaten afterwards (make sure that they are cooked fully to avoid any nasties!).

BTW, I also recommend starting with a turkey that already has the feathers removed :-D
 
Thanks, I have a turkey in a apple cider brine that I'm going to cook on the Egg tomorrow, will try #4 and #3. I bought a name brand... .69/lb frozen butterball :-D



I put together this Top Ten list of turkey tips for a Thanksgiving article and thought it might be a helpful thread if everyone added some of their tips too.

DSC03627.jpg


10. If you are a novice when it comes to cooking a turkey (or if you are going to try new side dishes this year), do a practice cook.

9. Need a change of pace? Try to borrow a turkey fryer. It’s a good idea to invite the owner over for instruction and a practice cook, these things are a little tricky but a fried turkey is wonderful.

8. Don’t cook dressing in the bird. This can lead to an overcooked bird or undercooked dressing. Instead, cook dressing in a separate pan. (In fact, I like to make two kinds). Some simple aromatics can be placed in the cavity of the bird; try a couple of green onions, a lemon slice or two or some herbs.

7. Consider brining your turkey. This can add some moisture and flavor to the bird.

6. Buy a name brand bird.

5. If you buy a frozen bird, thaw it according to instructions on the package. Usually the best method is to thaw in the refrigerator, in the original packaging. This will take 2 or 3 days depending on the size.

4. Bake your turkey breast down for 1.5 to 2 hours, then turn breast up and finish cooking, this helps to keep the breast moist. (Do this even if you use Tip # 3.)

3. Trying to get the dark meat done without overcooking the breast has always been a challenge. One hour before the bird goes in the oven, fill a large zipper bag with crushed ice and set it in a roasting pan on the counter. Take the bird out of the refrigerator and place it breast down on the ice pack (only the breast should be resting on the ice pack). During this hour, the temperature of the dark meat will rise and the temperature of the breast will remain the same or even cool a bit. This slows the cooking of the breast, and gives the dark meat a head start. Remove the ice pack and cook as usual.

2. Try to buy a fresh turkey. You might have to place your order up to two weeks ahead, but the quality and flavor is worth the extra price.

And the number one Thanksgiving turkey tip is …

1. Use a thermometer to judge doneness. Don’t rely on time alone. Check temperature often toward the end of the cook. I shoot for no more than 160° * in the breast and 175° or so just above the leg, and watch to make sure the juices run clear. Allow for a 15 minute rest before carving.
*USDA recommends 165°. Just like other meats, expect a rise in temperature while the bird rests on the cutting board.
 
Thanks fo the advice iam getting one ready for tommorrow,hope to post pics tommorrow night.
 
Thanks for putting this together Wayne.

If we do turkey this year, Im going to try the ice bag and keeping breast meat cooler while the dark meat warms up.

I like number 3. I'll probably try that this year.

:-D

There are several versions of this ice theory. Mad Max, one of my turkey mentors uses 20 minutes of ice time. Harold McGee (the food science guy) goes 2 to 2 1/2 hours. No offence to either one but I think Max's time is too short, and Harold's time is too long (food safety - poultry at room temperature and all).

So I use the 1 hour time. It gets the breast chilled down and doesn't push the 41°-140° in 4 hour rule.

In addition to the ice technique, Harold freezes onion halves and carrots and puts them on the bottom of the roasting pan and inside the bird. When starting the bird breast down this keeps the breast cool even longer.
 
:-DThanks for the tips Thirdeye. Great idea on the ice technique. Tips like this is why my Q is ten times better since joining the Brethren.:-D
 
Thanks for the tips.....gonna try that ice thingy:biggrin:
 
Thanks for the tips Third eye. The ice idea is a new one on me. Will have to try it.:icon_bigsmil:icon_bigsmil
 
There are several versions of this ice theory. Mad Max, one of my turkey mentors uses 20 minutes of ice time. Harold McGee (the food science guy) goes 2 to 2 1/2 hours. No offence to either one but I think Max's time is too short, and Harold's time is too long (food safety - poultry at room temperature and all).

So I use the 1 hour time. It gets the breast chilled down and doesn't push the 41°-140° in 4 hour rule.

In addition to the ice technique, Harold freezes onion halves and carrots and puts them on the bottom of the roasting pan and inside the bird. When starting the bird breast down this keeps the breast cool even longer.


I'd heard this before but never tried it. For Thanksgiving I'm also doing three breasts. Just for grins I think I'll ice a couple (all of them within an oz. or two of each other) for different lengths of time and see what difference that has on cook times. Thanks for the info.
 
I really like Tony C's injection. I've done many others and some of my own were better. They involve a juice extractor and some time to prep, clean up and stuff, but for convenience, this can't be beat. The kit is available in grocery stores here and comes with an injector.

http://www.cajunspice.com/marinades/
 
Thanks, I have a turkey in a apple cider brine that I'm going to cook on the Egg tomorrow, will try #4 and #3. I bought a name brand... .69/lb frozen butterball :-D

I thought brining a pre-seasoned turkey (e.g. Butterball) was a no-no?

from: http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/turkey/faqs.html

Is it all right to use a pre-based turkey for brining?
No, a pre-basted or self-basted turkey is injected with broth, spices, seasoning, flavor enhancers, and it may contain some salt. The maximum added weight of approximately 3 percent solution before processing is included in the net weight on the label. The label must also include a statement identifying the name of all the ingredients in the solution. Using a pre-basted turkey could result in too much salt. If the turkey has absorbed too much salt— the salt will draw moisture out of the flesh defeating the whole purpose of brining and/or pre-basting. For brining, start with a fresh turkey or a completely thawed turkey that is not basted or self-basted.

Let us know how it turns out Chris!
 
If you are going to do a deep fried turkey do as Thirdeye says, know how to do it correctly. Best way to make sure you have the proper amount of oil is to put your turkey into the empty pot. Fill the pot with water just to cover the turkey. Remove the turkey pat dry and let stand. Measure the water in the pot to find out how much oil you need.
I was at a turykey fry last Wednesday night and this chucklehead had no clue what he was doing and just dropped the turkey into the pot and yep you guessed it oil over the side and fire starts. The cardboard he set down to protect his garage floor also on fire. Luckily it was quickly put out and nobody or nothing was hurt, but it could have easily gone the other way.
Check out this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqemKVTf_38. Scarey chit man.
 
All great tips and I've used all of em. I have a local market that is advertising Amish all natural turkey's this week for 1.69 / lb and even though if I catch it just right I can get a butterball for as low as 69 cents I think I'll spring for the 1.69 to see if it is mo betta. I do watch for butterballs that has no more than 3% solution (they go as high as 7 or 8 %) and come out pretty good using a brine on those. I do think it helps to mix your seasonings into room temp butter then get it real cold and slide it under the skin and kinda smooth it into a layer of cold seasoned butter under there then smear some more of it on the outside - but the #1 thing I watch and worry about is the temp on the bird and pull it when it's done and Thirdeye's temps are right on as usual.
 
get free range turkeys if you can. it's all i do.
no injection, no brine, nothin but turkey :biggrin:
 
All great tips and I've used all of em. I have a local market that is advertising Amish all natural turkey's this week for 1.69 / lb and even though if I catch it just right I can get a butterball for as low as 69 cents I think I'll spring for the 1.69 to see if it is mo betta. I do watch for butterballs that has no more than 3% solution (they go as high as 7 or 8 %) and come out pretty good using a brine on those. I do think it helps to mix your seasonings into room temp butter then get it real cold and slide it under the skin and kinda smooth it into a layer of cold seasoned butter under there then smear some more of it on the outside - but the #1 thing I watch and worry about is the temp on the bird and pull it when it's done and Thirdeye's temps are right on as usual.

My first choice for a main meal is a fresh bird without any adders. But like everyone else, I shop the sales too. (plus the Mrs gets a bird from work every year). I usually don't cook the sale birds whole. I butcher them down, sometimes smoking the legs, or barbecuing the legs, thighs and wings. I cook the breast for sandwiches or to give away.
 
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