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Tried the ribs at the joint I wanted to open!

Thankfully, that is true.

It took 20 years of overseas tours and shiftwork but it has paid off :D
 
Saiko said:
I think just about everybody in this forum can put out better barbeque than 90 percent of the restaurants out there. They have to deal with volume and time, while we and give all our loving attention to a small amount of food.
I can count on one hand the amount of restaurants that I have been to that produce food superior to homemade que.

This is so true Saiko. I sometimes wonder if it is a curse.

I also want to comment on something that Dave said. He said that it is all about "attention to detail." This is a major problem in our society today. I teach young children, have done so for almost 20 years, and am finding that it gets worse every year.

This is one reason that I prefere small mom and pop operations. They care more, and take pride in doing a good job. They have attention to detail.

I don't expect perfection, but at the very least I would like competency. I am not perfect and don't know anyone who is. BBQ is not about perfection as much as it is the persuit thereof. It is about relaxing, having fun, and making things that taste damn good... but probably not perfect...and paying attention to the details.
 
Well, just for the heck of it. I took the self employment route about 10 years ago. Never looked back, no regrets. Couldn't picture ever working for someone else again. When you work for someone, you are working to put money in their pocket, plain and simple. Granted when I took the dive I was young, single, and had virtually no responsibilities in the world. What gets me now, is looking back and remembering every middle aged and old fart at the bar, telling me I was crazy. You'll never make it, they said. You have a good job with insurance, bennies, why would you want to risk that?

Well, dreams may make the world go around, but it is people acting on those dreams and not giving up that actually makes this country and it's economy and it's passion work.

And yes, people do go out there and fall flat on their faces. But the ones that pick them selves up, and dust themselves off, and keep going are the stuff that America is made from.

If you REALLY want it, you will find a way to make it happen.

I say, throw your sack on the table and let fate take a swing at it.

Just my 2 cents worth.
 
Dave,
Sh!t, open a Brethren store that specializes in cooking jellies
& Brethren knowledge, and cook Q to sell and prove it. It could
be the first of a string of franchises. Hey, it could happen!!
Look at what’s happened with this site!!!!!!!!
I’ll be your S.C. distributor.
 
Just had a "wake up" talk with my eldest. Now, we came up with a truly demented plan.

Lil' Hawgs 2 (squared) - Harley tune up and repair combined with a que joint!! :D Sounds weird but here in Florida it just might work! :twisted:
My son's got his VA to use and one of the schools with HD specialty is over at Daytona.

Harry, don't think the jelly thing, as a part time gig, hasn't crossed my mind. I've got a certified kitchen to work in and all I really need is small steam kettle to help speed up the process.

Greg, you are so right about the woulda/coulda/shoulda group. Unfortunately my wife is one of those - regular paycheck, benefits, kinda people - can't blame her for wanting those things but it's gonna put me into an early grave - heck she's a mom and all so I don't blame her it's just that too often she gives me the "we can do this when we have the money, time, place, etc." As if that's ever gonna happen :D

Catering and custom cooking will probably be my way out. We'll see.
 
As soon as Mary gets the Logo and crap finalized.

Actually Greg has been making much better progress on the promotional end. Hats, jackets, and such. Picking out some cool test materials, to put the final (or one of the different final) NON GAY pig logos on.
 
Actually Greg has been making much better progress on the promotional end. Hats, jackets, and such. Picking out some cool test materials, to put the final (or one of the different final) NON GAY pig logos on.
Doh! You weren't supposed to say anything
 
I have been seriously thinking about trying to be self employed. I've thought about inventing something. I've thought about opening a restaurant. I even talk to my dad about my ideas, but it seems like almost every idea i have he shoots down and tells me to stick with computers. Because he has been doing computers all his life and now he is finally making 90k a year but hes in his mid 50's. but he evetually realizes that people need encouragement in whatever they do and he changes his mind and does whatever he can to help out, which is a really nice boost of confidence. So my latest plan is to get in to realty because the realty business is booming here in atlanta. And i think i can make some decent money selling houses and maybe open a catering business on the weekends. And eventually get enough money saved up to start a restaurant. And have back up money for the first 5 years, which is usually the time frame in which most restaraunts fold. It might sound crazy but im single and don't have any kids yet so i think i can afford to blow it, and start over to try and figure out something else to do to try and generate revenue on my own.
 
Wish I'd had the opportunity to go "self employed" myself. I'm trying and will probably make it but I'm still a year or two away from convincing Anne that it's the thing to do.

Go to a book store and find the "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" and other books in the series. Lots of interesting tips on handling finances like the rich.

Also, just finished a book not long ago (sorry, don't remember the title) that dealt with the old "get and education, find a good job, etc." mind set and how that traps you into a cycle that you just can't break out of. Even if you make 90K or more you still "workin' for the man" :D

Also, I think self employment teaches you what "enough" is -- i.e. how much do you need to make to be "enough" -- now "enough" may be what your subsistance level is and you would like to make a bit more than "enough" but for a lot of folks, if they are doing what they really like to do and are making "enough" to pay the bills, take some time off now and then, and enjoy life then just maybe they ARE making "enough".

I'm 52 so probably in your dad's generation - I, too work in computers, I'm an IT analyst/geek -- I've been doing this pretty solid since about 1976 (started with alpha/numeric processing terminals by TI) and have been involved with personal computing since 1981. I HATE IT!! :twisted" But, it has paid the bills and allowed me some modicum of self respect :D

I have to remind myself, when talking with my 20 and 22 year old sons that I can't live their lives. I can't live mine through their's. And, I want them to really love whatever they do. So, I have life choice discussions real often with them. Sometimes I wish I was 22 again and had just an inkling of what I know now or had someone like me to advise them :D

Now, regarding the restaurant biz! If you haven't worked in one don't even think of starting one by yourself. Go work at a couple over the next couple of years -- maybe fast food first and then a "family" restaurant and then maybe upscale steak/seafood/etc. Get in as management for somebody like Red Lobster, Cody's, TGI Friday's, etc. and get your ASS BEAT for a coule of years. Managers have it bad with 50-75 hour weeks but owners of independent places have it worse.

Just my $.02 worth.
 
Thanks Greg!

I'm eventually going to have my own place. It may be catering only but I think you need a storefront for visibility and to develop a reputation-- ergo a small 'que joint for "daily" sales and then catering. If the catering took off you could always drop the storefront sales but you'd already have your certified kitchen/commissary and you licenses, etc.

Just a thought, or two! :D
 
Of course you could redo your own kitchen to county health code standards and just do the catering. Makes for a real nice kitchen at the house.
 
Not is this lifetime!! :D

If I want to just cater I'll contract with the church and just pay for the additional inspection (it's currently a <9 month school kitchen). Besides, I don't have room for my rig (don't have a rig yet, but you know what I mean) and a seperate "commissary" just makes more sense. They would let me install additional 'fridge and freezers and I could probably add a storage shed on the grounds, too.
 
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