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Pork shoulders not doing it for me...

ClintHTX

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I don't know what it is. Y'all rave about them. Maybe mine sucks? I cook pork shoulders they come out juicy just like y'all claim but it doesn't hit the spot like brisket does. Maybe it's cause I'm Texan. I dunno. How can I make it better? Never been a big fan of rubs. I rub down with some S and P but that's about it. What do you guys think?
 
I haft to cook my pork shoulders to about 210 degrees and let them rest for a hour before pulling but I like a more done pork sandwich on a toasted bun .
 
Clint,

First, while pork can have a great taste, you can't really compare them side by side to a brisket. It's like comparing apples to oranges. LOL

The shoulder is a big piece of meat and does well with a good seasoning. If you are talking about the butt of the shoulder (Boston Butt), apply a liberal coating of rub and cook it until the bone begins to wiggle like a loose tooth. Every piece of meat is different, so cooking by temperature alone should not be your method of determining when the meat is done. I've had Shoulder butts wiggle at 187°, while other have been close to 210°. While the shoulder can be very forgiving when cooking, over-cooking can change texture and flatten the naturally sweet flavor of the pork. Only human interaction can determine when your shoulder butt is perfectly done.

Also a 2 -4 hour rest in an insulated cooler helps to further break connective tissue into collagen making the meat exceptionally tender, moist, giving you succulent flavor in every bite. Planning a 4 hour rest can also give you a cooking buffer if you happen to have a stubborn piece of meat hanging in the stall. De-fat the meat juices you collected during the last few hours of the cook and mix them into the pork after the 2-4 hours hold after you pull the pork. Also a light sprinkle of rub into the pulled pork adds an additional burst of flavor, but like anything else, too much can ruin great flavor.

If you are talking about the whole shoulder, remove the skin for better bark formation and flavor penetration.

Lastly consider injecting the pork. I used Chris Lilly's Injection but found it to be salty to my tastes, I cut back to almost half the amount of salt and it is still good. last year I switched to OakRidge Game Changer Brine as my Injection and have nothing less than great results with it. The main reason for brining a pork butt isn't to add moisture because the pork butt has enough fat and connective tissue. The main reason I brine is for added flavors deep into the meat, added tenderness and added moisture are a by-product of brining, as well as an improved texture.

I now, always use OakRidge Game Changer Brine as an injection. I Use fruit juice (Peach, Pear, Apple, or White Grape) for added flavors. For every 8 ounces of juice add 1 Tablespoon of OakRidge Game Changer Brine and then inject into the pork. I inject right through the cyro-packaging to save with cleanup, using different angles through the same hole to prevent leaking. I used to rub and let the pork sit overnight, but now I'll rub a few hours before smoking depending upon my time constraints.


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Try a sliced shoulder instead of pulled. We like it better.
 
As a Texan I can feel your pain. Lots of rub, catch the drippings to add back. A good finishing sauce is key. Put on a Hawaiian bun with with coleslaw and it's like magic. Took me a while to figure it out and I don't even like coleslaw.
 
As a Texan I can feel your pain. Lots of rub, catch the drippings to add back. A good finishing sauce is key. Put on a Hawaiian bun with with coleslaw and it's like magic. Took me a while to figure it out and I don't even like coleslaw.

....and maybe try a cider vinegar based slaw instead of the creamy stuff. complements the meat better IMHO.
 
It might just be a matter of taste. I enjoy pork shoulder, but brisket does nothing for me.
 
Clint,

I'm a Tarheel. It pains me to see that Pork isn't "doing it for you." That said, I can understand. Pork shoulder that didn't really capture much hickory smoke... didn't render much fat... didn't crisp up and provide any sort of cracklin'... wouldn't interest me much either. Got it.

I'm from Charlotte - that means that I appreciate Eastern NC and Western NC 'Que.
- First - Try Lexington Dip - http://amazingribs.com/recipes/BBQ_sauces/lexington_dip.html - Seriously. Try it. Add some good vinegar-based slaw to the deal, and you'll hear no complaints!
- Second - Go South (Carolina)! -
Make some really good SC Mustard Based Sauce...
3 cups ac vinegar
1/2 cup water
1/2 cup Texas pete
2Tbs fine ground cayenne pepper
2Tbs salt
2Tbs course ground black pepper
4Tbs mustard

Mind you - you need to understand that the above is from Virginia... aka "Tidewater Thin." - I like to add some additional Yellow Mustard to mine to turn it Southward from Virginia. Say... a good 3/4 cup, also a good 1/4 cup of Worcestershire Sauce. Thanks to Viking72 for the original TideWater Thin Recipe!

I hope this provides a couple of directions to explore.

Pork is beautiful.
Smoke a Picnic (as mentioned before)!
Get some of that yummy cracklin' in the 'que!

Kind regards,
Shadow
 
Never been a big fan of rubs. I rub down with some S and P but that's about it. What do you guys think?

Ah, well, THERE'S yer problem! :wink:

Pork shoulder loves a rub, and particularly one with some sugar and heat to it. The ol' standard central Texas Dalmatian rub is going to be pretty boring, and I can see why you'd say "what's the big deal?" So, from one Texan to another, I offer the following...

I've had very good success with Meathead's Memphis Meat Dust, which he gives the recipe for on his site. Easy to make and I think it tastes great. He also suggests pre-salting the meat ~12 hours or more in advance at 1/2 tsp/lb. This is essentially a dry brine, and will get good flavor deep into the meat and retain moisture during the cook. Only salt though, not the rub -- the recipe for the rub is split, so there's no salt in the rub.

When applying the rub, I'll shake Worcestershire sauce over the meat first, to give the rub something to stick to. I'll liberally apply the rub, then press/rub it in with (big secret reveal here) the backside of a large serving spoon. It gets the rub in contact with the meat AND doesn't remove or move the rub around. I rub it until all the rub is wet with the sauce. This is important because with a rub that has sugar in it, you want it totally wet so the sugar dissolves and forms a bark that adheres well. It should look a little bit sloppy, but not runny.

I cook to around 195° or so. I don't pull it, I slice big pieces and (very) roughly chop. This gives you a sammitch with some body to it. Some fresh ground pepper and a splat of Sweet Baby Ray's does it for me. Brisket is always a challenge, but I kill pork shoulder every time.



 
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