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Plate versus Chuck ribs

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I made some chuch ribs from restaurant depot today. I was ultra disappointed in how fatty they were. In fact one rack was pretty much all fat. The mear was tasty but the fat content was just ridiculous. I'm wondering I just made a rookie error by buying chuck instead of plate ribs or if I just got terrible rack in the mix.

I guess let me start simple by asking:
1) what's the difference in cut between plate and chuck ribs for BBQ (not location that's easy to determine)?
2) do you guys have a preference? I know Aaron Franklin likes plate ribs

Thanks
Sam
 
I can only get chuck ribs around here. I usually try to get the thickest ones, with what looks to be not too much fat on top. Most of the time it turns out good, every now and then I get a rack that has a thick vein of fat that I couldn't see.
 
I always thought the chuck ribs were true short ribs and the plates were beef ribs.

I no expert but confused.

Bpoth can be cooked very well but vthe plate is more fun

For fat - it makes for very tasty ribs but has to be accounted for in cooking to render it down properly. Fat = flavor!
 
I think that the chuck ribs and short plate ribs are the same thing.

Last week I did my first short plate ribs, but is was only the three meatiest bones. Yes they were fatty, but mine rendered out very well and was THE most delicious piece of meat I have probably ever eaten in my life. I kid you not, I almost cried. It was that good. I cooked them at 275ish for close to 7 hours.

At the same time, I also cooked some thinner beef ribs that were probably regular short ribs. I was really worried about those because it essentially looked like really fatty bacon. I was sure there was going to be no edible meat, but it rendered perfectly and was every bit as good as the short plate, but with less meat (still had lots of meat though). There were no visible veins of fat left after cooking them. These ribs contract so much when they cook, that what initially looks like a thin little layers of meat, scrunch up to a good thickness in the end.

Both of these cuts were cut fresh from the same hanging cow, and not in a cryovac (I got lucky and the lady at the butcher shop wasn't sure what I wanted, so she told me told me to go back into the cold locker and show the butcher where on the cow to cut, how cool is that? :grin:)

Today, I bought about five bones of beef short ribs (of the thinner kind, not the short plate) from another store, but it's was from a cryovac. Planning on cooking it on Tuesday, so we'll see if I get the same consistency in the meat and if it renders out the same.

Below I cut and pasted a description of short ribs from the amazing ribs site. The website link has more info. I had to read this a few times because it's a bit confusing, but it seems that chuck ribs and short plate are the same thing:
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Short ribs: The meat is on top of the bones

The best cut of beef ribs comes from the lower, ventral, section, from the 6th through 10th rib, roughly the same cut as the St. Louis cut of pork ribs. It is called the short plate, and the ribs are called short ribs not because they are short in length, but because they come from what is called the short plate. The short plate is located right in front of another inexpensive, chewy but flavorful cut, the flank steak, and just behind another favorite cut for barbecue, the brisket. The bones are almost straight and they have 1-2" of meat on top. They are good for barbecue, kalbi, and braising. Shorties are my favorite cut for barbecue.

Short plate

This is the primary section from which the different short rib cuts are fabricated. There are four bones and the meat is thicker on one side from near the shoulder and those are called chuck ribs sometimes. They're the best. The muscle is the serratus ventralis and it has a lot of connective tissue as well as marbling which means big flavor. Brazilian steakhouses like to skewer the whole shortplate and rotisserie it. They then slice the meat off across the grain, parallel to the bone.

http://amazingribs.com/recipes/beef/zen_of_beef_ribs.html
 
I find that every region has their own take on terms, and they vary a bit. Up here, we have 4-bone chuck, and 3-bone plate ribs (also beef baby backs, but they're a class all their own). There is a definite difference in size of the two cuts: the plates are huge in length, and the chuck are more on the shorter side. Thickness I guess they're similar, but every cow of course varies.

Personally, the 3-bone plates are the BEST by far. The 4-bone chucks are not even close to being the same. I mean, they're good, but I have the same finding you did: they're fatty, not as tender as the plate, and the flavor was not as good.
 
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