Campaign for ‘Real’ Cue Or My Stickburner Rules!!

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I know it’s not winter yet but my sister from Atlanta just sent me this article. Interesting read and interesting perspectives.

“At the pinnacle of the pitmaster’s art is barbecue cooked the traditional way, entirely with heat and smoke from burning hardwood or hardwood coals”

Also a great way to keep track of and honor the places still doing it old school.

https://www.atlantamagazine.com/din...to-smoke-your-meat-is-it-still-true-barbecue/

And here is the site for the guys running the project.

http://www.truecue.org

The Campaign for Real Barbecue exists:
1. to celebrate and to promote barbecue’s wood-cooking heritage,
2. to identify and to honor those who stay true to the traditions of their place and provide the benchmark for Real Barbecue, and
3. to educate eaters about the barbecue tradition and the difference between Real Barbecue and faux ‘cue.

So. What say you Brethren.. are propane and electric cookers really faux-que? What about pellets or charcoal...
 
I dont think of electric or propane as "real" bbq but that don't mean it cant ne good eats.

as for pellets they are 100% hardwood so we're good there
 
I understand what they are saying, but "true to the traditions" is a bit hyperbolic. I mean where does it end? if your're not starting your fire with two sticks and cooking on the ground or underground, then you too have embraced relatively modern advancements in the art. That's not a dig at all.

I like good bbq; however it is made. Now as a personal aside, I enjoy the involvement of smoking on a pure wood pit. To me, the process is as equally as enjoyable as the outcome. But if you're busy as most of us are, set it and forget may be the only way to get home smoked goods at times and that definitely satisfies my taste when called upon.

We constantly search for what is the best, when in reality there is no universal best way to do anything. Only what's best for YOU. To me, the only traditional tenet is that people have historically heavily used what's available in their area/state/region/country.
 
I'm drawn to the ocean. In a primal way. There is a connection to the past somehow.

I'm also drawn to fire. Campfires, firepit nights, a wood burning fireplace. Stoking the fire, watching the flames, adding wood. I've done it since I was a kid. While everyone else was building s'mores and singing camp songs I was foraging in the woods for more dry fallen timber to keep the fire going. In a primal way.

Cooking over a campfire the food always tasted differently...could have been being outside all day, could have been the process...the involvement in the cooking. Find a long straight branch, skin it, skewer some meat. Find 2 branches with a Y...now you have a spit. Foil packs, cooking on a grate, mud potatoes. I've even cooked chicken on a rock in the middle of a fire.

Pellets are convenient. Gas assist works great for high volume restaurants.

Stickburning is primal.
 
I think there is a certain snob appeal to stick burners, and there is nothing wrong with that; I'd like to be a stick burning snob. 30 years ago when I raced bicycles, you needed an all steel frame and sew up tubular tires; we looked down our noses at guys showing up on aluminum bikes and clincher tires. Those bikes were just as fast as ours, but we were "purists". I would love to have a big pile of wood in my back yard and cook on a Lang or Shirley, but space and time constraints won't allow that. I'm content to cook on a WSM using charcoal and wood chunks because it allows me to do it more often. People seem to like the results.


BTW, I have spent a lot of my life camping and cooking over camp fires. Nothing better.
 
My take is that I love stick burning and everything that comes with it but moreover, I love bbq and everything that comes with it. I sincerely could care less if you use gas/electric/pellets or sticks, I still want to talk que with you and if you’d like to know I’ll tell you my preferences. I'm not sure why anyone feels the need to separate it into categories. This guy uses wood this guy uses gas..etc. especially when it comes to restaurants. Let people try whatever they want to try and if they like it they'll go back. Unless you’re the one loading and unloading the pit every day you don’t get to call it “faux”. Can we just be BBQ guys? To me the whole TruCue thing comes across as a need for a group of guys to feel like they’re in the cool kids club and completely forgetting that they’re already in a pretty cool club called “BBQ” but they couldn’t leave it at that. You had good bbq, maybe it changed your life. Awesome. There’s no need to be a jerk about it.
Rant over. Go BBQ
 
The never ending debate....

Kind of similar to traditional bows vs compound. Or inline muzzleloaders vs traditional.

I can say with 100% certainty that I'm sick of elitist attitudes. But whatever floats your boat I guess!
 
Old school pits were born out of the necessity of using what was on hand.

Today, we have LOTS of choices on everything related to BBQ. I don't begrudge the technology - I embrace it. Whatever you use to cook on is YOUR choice, and who am I to judge that?

I'm a guitar player, and that world is chock full of cork sniffers and preening, pompous elitists. I don't see this too much in the BBQ world. It's all about enjoying the journey and having fun to me. Whether you cook on a hole in the ground or a $15,000 custom cooker is an individual choice, and I will not pass judgement.

There's no "time honored right way". As long as you're getting the results you seek, it's all good. :-D

Edit: I just read the pledge from the True Cue site..............pure elitist garbage, and I see NO place for that here on the Brethren. I come here for the open minded comraderie and I've learned and shared a great deal. Please do not allow this level of preening snobbery to infect this forum.
 
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I'm pretty simplistic..I want heat to cook my meat..could care less what the heat source is. IMO sucessful cooking lies in the creativeness/skill/hands of the person doing the cooking.
 
I have a pellet grill and I have stick burners, to me it's all good....

#metoo !?

I figure I'm working my way through all the various cooker types. said I'd never get a drum...built one. said I'd never get a gas cooker....love my wga, Blackstone and big easy. I said I would never get a pellet grill.....I actually own 2 until the traeger sells.

ill tell you what tho.....I'll never get a vertical insulated cabinet
 
I would say it depends on the person. I grew up, cooking, and eating food off of a stick burner. To this day, I have not cooked on anything that matches the flavor that you get off of one. So in my mind, stickburners are the kings of bbq. However, If I can get something that tastes almost as good, for 1/10 the work and time investment, and have bbq 4 times a week, instead once a month, I am in. But yeah, if I was going out to eat bbq, and they didn't have a wood pit, I would keep driving.
 
So here is my take. My father in law was a chef. Owned restaurants, catered, worked in corporate food services, cooked in the Army.

I ate a lot of meals with him over the years. Cooked a lot of meals with him and helped him cater a few times.

He loved to eat and to cook. Ate at Denny’s, loved Culver’s, and cheap chinese food.

But every once in a while we would go to a place to eat and he would be wowed. Impressed with the old school, from scratch, classic restaurant operation and techniques. Hand made beef Wellington or hand cut steaks or fresh made pasta... and he would fawn over the old school method.

Same thing at home. Grill burgers, use the microwave and toaster oven. And then he’d say...I wanna make [insert food item here]. And then it was on. Roux, bearnaise, confit, bechamel. Whole roasted tenderloins, salad dressing and cocktail sauce from scratch. And it was always amazing.

I can appreciate all bbq...not counting chain restaurants baked or boiled ribs... but the best bbq place in St Louis uses a gas assist Old Hickory. I don’t mind at all.

But. Every once in a while I get a place still using an all wood pit. And it’s different. Just enough.

I think it’s cool to collect a directory of the places still using just wood. But not in a snobby way. More as a way to honor the old school way.
 
I think it’s cool to collect a directory of the places still using just wood. But not in a snobby way. More as a way to honor the old school way.

Honor old school? I'm OK with that.

I do, however, take umbrage at the pledge that this site posted. It's pure, unadulterated, preening snobbery......and I have ZERO time for that.
 
#metoo !?

I figure I'm working my way through all the various cooker types. said I'd never get a drum...built one. said I'd never get a gas cooker....love my wga, Blackstone and big easy. I said I would never get a pellet grill.....I actually own 2 until the traeger sells.

ill tell you what tho.....I'll never get a vertical insulated cabinet
"Hello, Lone Star, how fast can you ship me a Mini Insulated Cabinet Smoker" :biggrin1:
 
My personal opinion is that stick burners produce the best Q.
That doesn't mean that somebody else's opinion is any less valid.
Use what you want to use.
I prefer to grill over charcoal, but I get how gas is more convenient.
Which one is best is truly a matter of opinion.
 
I get great satisfaction from cooking food to the point where you get an OMG! reaction. It is quite an accomplishment that I am always chasing, whether it be in the kitchen, a campfire or smoker. Last week I spent all day feeding wood into my stick burner chasing the dream of a perfect temperature etc. It was heaven but I don't always have the time or desire for that and my pellet serves a purpose too. Good food and fun is where it's at for me and I can appreciate how people get there in different ways.
 
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