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Old 04-26-2012, 04:04 PM   #1
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Default The ongoining "Kobe and Waygu" threads are getting a bit tiresome.

To me, enough is enough.
The article that ignited this firestorm was from a writer for Forbes who has made no claim that I can find that he has actually eaten Kobe or Waygu beef.
May have missed it, but I think not.
His bitch was about labeling and marketing, nothing more, nothing less.
His last post that I can find is:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolm...larifications/

I freely admit there are labeling and nomenclature problems--those exist in a lot of industries.
I freely admit that some of the outragous pricing needs to be looked at.

But, I have been cooking Australian Waygu briskets for the last couple of years and I can tell ya, from actually doing it, that the Waygu is well above any domestic "prime" I have ever cooked.
Period---day in--day out!

I buy Australian Waygu for $5.45/lb (with no shipping or tax) and my price for CAB Prime is at (or over) $3.00/lb

Unlike the writer who started this, I have been there and cooked/eaten Waygu and I willl never go back for the "critical" uses like comps.

This is an "academic" discussion that has grown way beyond it's worth.

As to quality, if someone has not done it, it is all theory and of little use to me.


Just my thoughts.
Do with it what you want.


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Old 04-26-2012, 04:07 PM   #2
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I could almost feel the fire in your eyes as you typed that one out Kapn!
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:15 PM   #3
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I could almost feel the fire in your eyes as you typed that one out Kapn!
Yup.
The WWW is a two edged sword when folks do not bother to read or think through or research the issue.

"Pile On" is a common thing.

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What could be better than talking about beef?

Gonna go hide behind the brick wall now cuz the sofa isn't big enough to withstand the power about to be unleashed!

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Hell, all I asked was where to buy it. And nobody wants to answer that one hehe.
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Hell, all I asked was where to buy it. And nobody wants to answer that one hehe.
Look up Snake River Farms - they have an online store.
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Hell, all I asked was where to buy it. And nobody wants to answer that one hehe.
Your question did not spark my answer.
It was the ongoing asault by folks who failed to read and analyse the backgound data.

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If push comes to shove, we can work something out

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Kobe and Waygu are over rated period.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:07 PM   #11
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It is definitely just an "academic" discussion about marketing. But it doesn't mean it isn't an important one.

I think it really highlights that people should look into what they are actually buying more than they might. The point of the article seems to be that despite the fact that beef is called "waygu" or "kobe", it may not mean much. But I'm glad that you found some wagyu beef that you like. That is all that matters.
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Kobe and Waygu are over rated period.
Unlike the Kapn, I have actually eaten real Kobe beef. I cooked in 3 different restauarants in Tokyo. It is unlike any beef you will eat anywhere in the world. It is like eating beef flavored butter. It is definately not over rated.


But to the real subject at hand, Waygu (whatever type) is the best beef available in this country. A lot depends on where you get it. Places like SNR & Strube are very reputable, while others are very unscrupulous.
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Unlike the Kapn, I have actually eaten real Kobe beef. I cooked in 3 different restauarants in Tokyo. It is unlike any beef you will eat anywhere in the world. It is like eating beef flavored butter. It is definately not over rated.


But to the real subject at hand, Waygu (whatever type) is the best beef available in this country. A lot depends on where you get it. Places like SNR & Strube are very reputable, while others are very unscrupulous.
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It is definitely just an "academic" discussion about marketing. But it doesn't mean it isn't an important one.

I think it really highlights that people should look into what they are actually buying more than they might. The point of the article seems to be that despite the fact that beef is called "waygu" or "kobe", it may not mean much. But I'm glad that you found some wagyu beef that you like. That is all that matters.

They could call it "The Bottom Of Your Shoe Bubble Gum Beef" for all I care...I'd still gladly buy it over prime grade!!!
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It doesn't matter to me either way. Where I live there is only select. No Kobe or Wagyu, or Wa Gyu or wag-anything. I can't even get a choice brisket.
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