Tips on HOT chili ????

Michigan BBQ Fan · 10-26-2021, 02:44 PM

Greetings Brethern,

I haven't been active in a bit. Moved and just now getting the smoker back out and finding free time to cook up some amazing BBQ.

I am entering a chili cook off this weekend and I need some advice. I have competed before and I have a recipe that I am confident with and will be making. It's strong beef base with well-balanced flavor and just a touch of heat.

But...this contest has an additional prize for the "Hottest Chili". I need help.

I'm going to enter two different chilis; one with my "main" recipe" and another with the main as the base but majorly kicked-up in the hotness.

Here are the elements I'm thinking of using to boost it up....

1. Basic canned "Hot" Green Chili Peppers

2. El Yucateco Black Label Reserved Chile Habenero Hot Sauce
https://www.hotsauce.com/El-Yucateco...hile-Habanero/

The "Black Label" is one of my favorite "off the shelf" sauces that I can regularly get at my local grocery store.

3. Hot Ones The Last Dab Apollo
https://heatonist.com/collections/th...31838990499938

I'm including this mainly because I feel it will have some "street cred" with the normal public voters. If they like "hot", they have probably heard of or watched Hot Ones. I'm going to have this bottle out for people to use to add to the "normal" chili.

4. 100-Pound Reaper Tincture by the Fuego Spice Company
https://www.fuegobox.com/products/10...eaper-tincture

I'm including this as a "unique" and/or "high end" feature. I might have it on display near the chili but not to use. It's kind of a conversation starter for "hot heads."

And...lastly...
5. 16 Million Natural PURE Capsaicin Crystals
https://www.hotsauce.com/16-million-...-crystals-2ml/

I have never used these and I have no idea what I'm getting into other than I don't plan on touching them or using very much.

Here is my question....

HOW DO I MAKE IT HOT ENOUGH TO "WIN" WITHOUT MAKING IT TOO HOT TO EAT?

I don't do "hot", so I'm not excited to try anything above Siracha. I'm OK with tasting this hot version but is there any way to know how much it TOO MUCH???

Please help. I'm open to tips, suggestions...ANYTHING.

THANK YOU.

BobBrisket · 10-26-2021, 02:50 PM

I would stay away from the oils/concentrates. See if you can score some fresh or dry reapers or ghost peppers and just float them in the chili as it cooks. It will build up in heat the longer you let it float in there. I am not a big fan of super hots, but I do like to float habaneros in my chili. Let us know how it turns out. BTW, super hots are insanely HOT! Use caution when handling them and even when handling the chili too.

Bob

SMOKE FREAK · 10-26-2021, 03:02 PM

Too bad we can't count on USPS. I could send you what you need.
I would avoid any sauce that has vinegar. Also stay away from the bitter taste of the extracts.
Your best bet is dried (or fresh) peppers or better yet ground pepper powders. This will enhance your recipe's flavor rather than collide head on with the flavors.
Perhaps Amazon (prime) could get you some heat delivered before the weekend.

Good luck to you

Michigan BBQ Fan · 10-26-2021, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobBrisket

I would stay away from the oils/concentrates. See if you can score some fresh or dry reapers or ghost peppers and just float them in the chili as it cooks. It will build up in heat the longer you let it float in there. I am not a big fan of super hots, but I do like to float habaneros in my chili. Let us know how it turns out. BTW, super hots are insanely HOT! Use caution when handling them and even when handling the chili too.

Bob

Thank you Bob.

I've heard of the "floating peppers" idea in the chili world. I love that. My local grocery store did have some habaneros and I might be able to seek out some locally sourced hotter peppers. I will let you know how it goes.

Michigan BBQ Fan · 10-26-2021, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMOKE FREAK

Too bad we can't count on USPS. I could send you what you need.
I would avoid any sauce that has vinegar. Also stay away from the bitter taste of the extracts.
Your best bet is dried (or fresh) peppers or better yet ground pepper powders. This will enhance your recipe's flavor rather than collide head on with the flavors.
Perhaps Amazon (prime) could get you some heat delivered before the weekend.

Good luck to you

Thank you Craig. I never thought of the "bad taste" that the vinegars could add. Thanks for the heads up there. I'm going to reach out to some of my "foodie" friends and see if I can unearth some local fresh pepper sources. My backup will be a dried blend etc.

tom b · 10-26-2021, 04:57 PM

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gtsum · 10-26-2021, 05:54 PM

I’d stay away from the crystals and oils also. Sounds like this is going to be a great cook off!

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Nuco59 · 10-26-2021, 06:06 PM

Daddy told me to have a snort of "good" whiskey... then put it away and pull out the stuff that comes in the plastic bottle...or mason jar. "hell- you done burned off your taste buds with good stuff- might as well go cheap for the rest of the night"

I am told that even the hottest peppers have tastes, flavors, nuance and hints of this and that that make them unique and stand out- and I guess it's true. But at a certain point, all I taste is tongue scalding heat to the point that the dish is just a "carrier for pain"- TWICE.

Moose · 10-26-2021, 06:27 PM

One thing I might add, is that adding some other differentiating flavor besides heat for your hot chili would be helpful, as you are using your "main chili" as the base. It could be something like bacon to give it a smoky flavor, or the canned green chiles you mentioned. Another thing to consider is not to make it so hot that the heat overpowers everything else. This can be tricky, but hopefully the judges are experienced in these matters.

Regardless, wishing you good luck, and please let us know how you do!

jzadski · 10-26-2021, 08:38 PM

When I want to go really hot I like Dave's Insanity and you can find it at Meijer. For a bit milder Jim Beam hot sauce it really good too.

Grabnabber · 10-26-2021, 08:40 PM

Whatever you do, please don't put cinnamon in it.

LYU370 · 10-26-2021, 09:34 PM

Fresh habanero's & Thai chili's for the win.

SmokeRingsMatter · 10-26-2021, 10:04 PM

IMO "Hottest Chili" is subjective. I would try and find a balance. I love "HOT" but theres a point where "HOT" drowns out flavor.

I agree to float some hotter dried chiles like ghost, but i would stick with some fresh pureed chilies like jalapeno's and habanero's.

Smokie185 · 10-26-2021, 10:28 PM

Get some dried de Arbol peppers and use them. I can find them at some grocery stores and a local international market. I would remove the seeds and grind into a powder. Might want to toast them a little before grinding. It brings out the flavor.

I found out the hard way that while they do have a nice flavor they are VERY hot. These are now my go to when I really want to bump up the heat. I would add some and then sample then add more as needed.

IamMadMan · 10-26-2021, 10:40 PM

Try adding a variety of dried and freshly ground peppers for added flavors as well as a balanced heat.

ND by all means, make your own chili powder, you control the flavors.

https://www.spicesinc.com/t-dried-chili-peppers.aspx

10-26-2021, 02:44 PM	#1
Michigan BBQ Fan Take a breath! Join Date: 04-11-18 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Name/Nickname : Scott	Tips on HOT chili ???? Greetings Brethern, I haven't been active in a bit. Moved and just now getting the smoker back out and finding free time to cook up some amazing BBQ. I am entering a chili cook off this weekend and I need some advice. I have competed before and I have a recipe that I am confident with and will be making. It's strong beef base with well-balanced flavor and just a touch of heat. But...this contest has an additional prize for the "Hottest Chili". I need help. I'm going to enter two different chilis; one with my "main" recipe" and another with the main as the base but majorly kicked-up in the hotness. Here are the elements I'm thinking of using to boost it up.... 1. Basic canned "Hot" Green Chili Peppers 2. El Yucateco Black Label Reserved Chile Habenero Hot Sauce https://www.hotsauce.com/El-Yucateco...hile-Habanero/ The "Black Label" is one of my favorite "off the shelf" sauces that I can regularly get at my local grocery store. 3. Hot Ones The Last Dab Apollo https://heatonist.com/collections/th...31838990499938 I'm including this mainly because I feel it will have some "street cred" with the normal public voters. If they like "hot", they have probably heard of or watched Hot Ones. I'm going to have this bottle out for people to use to add to the "normal" chili. 4. 100-Pound Reaper Tincture by the Fuego Spice Company https://www.fuegobox.com/products/10...eaper-tincture I'm including this as a "unique" and/or "high end" feature. I might have it on display near the chili but not to use. It's kind of a conversation starter for "hot heads." And...lastly... 5. 16 Million Natural PURE Capsaicin Crystals https://www.hotsauce.com/16-million-...-crystals-2ml/ I have never used these and I have no idea what I'm getting into other than I don't plan on touching them or using very much. Here is my question.... HOW DO I MAKE IT HOT ENOUGH TO "WIN" WITHOUT MAKING IT TOO HOT TO EAT? I don't do "hot", so I'm not excited to try anything above Siracha. I'm OK with tasting this hot version but is there any way to know how much it TOO MUCH??? Please help. I'm open to tips, suggestions...ANYTHING. THANK YOU. __________________ WSM 18.5" - Broil King Signet 320B - ThermoWorks Smoke - ThermoPop - ThermaPen (Operation BBQ Ed) KCBS Certified Judge Member KCBS & GLBBQA Competition BBQ Cook !!!Welcome to the BBQ REVIVAL!!!

10-26-2021, 02:50 PM	#2
BobBrisket Moderator Join Date: 12-11-07 Location: El Paso, TX Name/Nickname : Bob	I would stay away from the oils/concentrates. See if you can score some fresh or dry reapers or ghost peppers and just float them in the chili as it cooks. It will build up in heat the longer you let it float in there. I am not a big fan of super hots, but I do like to float habaneros in my chili. Let us know how it turns out. BTW, super hots are insanely HOT! Use caution when handling them and even when handling the chili too. Bob __________________ PBC-Courtesy of Poobah, 22.5 Weber Kettles-A, K, DR Stamped, 18.5 Weber Bar-B-Kettle Black and Red, Weber 18.5 Smokey Joe Platinum, Weber Genesis Silver, Lil' Chief Smoker, Discada Set Up,OKJ Highland Offset. BobBrisket Jr.-MUDS, WSJ Silver My BEST Compliment....."You're a good cooker, Dad!"--My Son :) Miss You, Marty and Bull! RIP
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10-26-2021, 03:02 PM	#3
SMOKE FREAK Babbling Farker Join Date: 02-03-16 Location: McPherson Kansas	Too bad we can't count on USPS. I could send you what you need. I would avoid any sauce that has vinegar. Also stay away from the bitter taste of the extracts. Your best bet is dried (or fresh) peppers or better yet ground pepper powders. This will enhance your recipe's flavor rather than collide head on with the flavors. Perhaps Amazon (prime) could get you some heat delivered before the weekend. Good luck to you __________________ Craig

10-26-2021, 04:57 PM	#6
tom b somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-12-15 Location: Temecula, CA	No help but I had to https://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=53727 __________________ LSG 24x48 offset, MAK 2 Star General, Built in Santa Maria Pit, Weber Performer Deluxe 22 w/CB Rotisserie, Blackstone Pizza Oven, WGA, A PBC A 26'er AND A Jumbo Joe

10-26-2021, 06:06 PM	#8
Nuco59 Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-18-13 Location: Texas	Daddy told me to have a snort of "good" whiskey... then put it away and pull out the stuff that comes in the plastic bottle...or mason jar. "hell- you done burned off your taste buds with good stuff- might as well go cheap for the rest of the night" I am told that even the hottest peppers have tastes, flavors, nuance and hints of this and that that make them unique and stand out- and I guess it's true. But at a certain point, all I taste is tongue scalding heat to the point that the dish is just a "carrier for pain"- TWICE. __________________ I started out with nothing and I got most of it left.

10-26-2021, 05:54 PM	#7
gtsum Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-30-03 Location: Richmond, VA	I’d stay away from the crystals and oils also. Sounds like this is going to be a great cook off! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

10-26-2021, 06:27 PM	#9
Moose somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-12-08 Location: Gallatin, TN Name/Nickname : Richard	One thing I might add, is that adding some other differentiating flavor besides heat for your hot chili would be helpful, as you are using your "main chili" as the base. It could be something like bacon to give it a smoky flavor, or the canned green chiles you mentioned. Another thing to consider is not to make it so hot that the heat overpowers everything else. This can be tricky, but hopefully the judges are experienced in these matters. Regardless, wishing you good luck, and please let us know how you do! __________________ Moose *Showcase Your Cooking in the BBQ Brethren Throwdowns!* 2017's "Mayo Explosion" The 2022 Steak Cooking Controversy: Follow the Science! Check out my blog: www.mooseonfire.com

10-26-2021, 08:38 PM	#10
jzadski Babbling Farker Join Date: 11-06-14 Location: Lapeer, MI Name/Nickname : Joe	When I want to go really hot I like Dave's Insanity and you can find it at Meijer. For a bit milder Jim Beam hot sauce it really good too. __________________ 14" CBS, 18" & 22" WSM, Weber Kettle, Ducane Gasser, Rec Tec-680, MB-560, Blackstone 36"

10-26-2021, 08:40 PM	#11
Grabnabber Babbling Farker Join Date: 02-25-10 Location: In the gutter.	Whatever you do, please don't put cinnamon in it. __________________ Tom

10-26-2021, 09:34 PM	#12
LYU370 somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 05-28-14 Location: Streamwood, IL	Fresh habanero's & Thai chili's for the win. __________________ Andy FEC100 - Big Joe - Weber Spirit II Gasser Are you ready for a THROWDOWN?!?!? Join us, It's a BLAST!! Join us for the Inaugural 2024 South East Bash - May 2024 Tennessee - Sign Up Link

10-26-2021, 10:04 PM	#13
SmokeRingsMatter is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-31-20 Location: Bergen Town Name/Nickname : Poppy Pellet Pooper	IMO "Hottest Chili" is subjective. I would try and find a balance. I love "HOT" but theres a point where "HOT" drowns out flavor. I agree to float some hotter dried chiles like ghost, but i would stick with some fresh pureed chilies like jalapeno's and habanero's.

10-26-2021, 10:28 PM	#14
Smokie185 is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 06-20-16 Location: Union Grove, Alabama	Get some dried de Arbol peppers and use them. I can find them at some grocery stores and a local international market. I would remove the seeds and grind into a powder. Might want to toast them a little before grinding. It brings out the flavor. I found out the hard way that while they do have a nice flavor they are VERY hot. These are now my go to when I really want to bump up the heat. I would add some and then sample then add more as needed. __________________ Humphrey's Weekender, WSM, Weber Kettle, Camp Chef Flattop Grill, Blackstone 17 inch griddle

10-26-2021, 10:40 PM	#15
IamMadMan somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-30-11 Location: Pemberton, New Jersey	Try adding a variety of dried and freshly ground peppers for added flavors as well as a balanced heat. ND by all means, make your own chili powder, you control the flavors. https://www.spicesinc.com/t-dried-chili-peppers.aspx