Ok guys help me make up my mind!!! - Page 4

Jason TQ · 07-07-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rtboswell

Be careful Jason, he has an eidetic memory and will never forget what you've said to him.

Hehe. You're funny

Untraceable · 07-07-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Slamdunkpro

If you decide on a Spicewine get a Super medium, not a medium. If you are thinking gravity fed take a long look at a Vulcan.

What is the rack size on a Super Medium?

Sawdustguy · 07-07-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fnbish

Yes exactly. Different strokes

. Every cooker has their pro's and con's. And different people will think the con's are pro's on one cooker and pro's are con's. Some want the moving parts and think that is awesome and some like it more simple. What works for some won't work for others in a competition. So negating a type of cooker in a discussion like this is just strange to me.

Dude, I am not negating anything. That is why I said "understand" and did not use verbage that was definitive. I obviously don't own one so there could be an advantage I am not aware of. I was very careful not to say gravity cookers are bad cookers. I base my observations on real experience. In the not too distant past our neighbors at a contest had a gravity cooker. I will not name the cooker as to sway any ones opinion. He miscalculated the amount of charcoal because he decided to use his smoker in the grilling event the day before. He had to run out and purchase charcoal and unfortunately was not able to find his preferred brand at a supermarket (only store open at the time) on a Sunday morning (in the NE we have a good share of Sat/Sun contests). It was indeed crappy charcoal and he was experiencing jams. We gave him a spare bag of ours (we had plenty and usually take home a couple of bags not used) to finish up. I wish he asked us for the charcoal first as we could have saved him the stress, trip and trouble.

Sawdustguy · 07-07-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rtboswell

Be careful Jason, he has an eidetic memory and will never forget what you've said to him.

What is it? Is July 7th break Guy's balls day?

I generally don't hold grudges (although I admit there is a neighbor that I don't see eye to eye with) either.

peeps · 07-07-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sawdustguy

What is it? Is July 7th break Guy's balls day?

Slamdunkpro · 07-07-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Untraceable

What is the rack size on a Super Medium?

32" W by 38"D I think - I'll run out and measure mine if you want exact measurements. i can get 3 hotel pans per rack; one across and two side by side or 12 butts 4 deep 3 across per rack.

Biged92 · 07-07-2014, 03:01 PM

From a competition standpoint, our Assassin has been awesome. It has helped turn out some great product. As for bridging we have never had a problem. The Assassin design (this may also be true for the Rebels and Superior lines), the chute starts off 6" wide at the top, and is 8" wide at the bottom to help prevent bridging. But I also do a 50/50 mixture of Stubbs and RO lump, and I go through all of the lump to make sure the pieces are roughly 4" or smaller. Like others have said, find a cooker that fit's your needs and style of cooking, get your timings down, and you'll be golden. The Assassin has definitely been the best fit for us. Good Luck.

Untraceable · 07-07-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Slamdunkpro

32" W by 38"D I think - I'll run out and measure mine if you want exact measurements. i can get 3 hotel pans per rack; one across and two side by side or 12 butts 4 deep 3 across per rack.

that sounds bigger than a large.

Slamdunkpro · 07-07-2014, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Untraceable

that sounds bigger than a large.

I think a large is 42x38

boogiesnap · 07-08-2014, 10:39 AM

i would suggest forgeting about what cooker to buy...for now.

you're considering investing 1,2,3 thousand dollars on a tool for something you haven't tried yet.

my opinion, take it for what it's worth, is:
1)get yourself a 22" WSM and a kettle, some blues hog and smoking guns hot.
2)do a practice run or two right quick and HIT UP A COMP! "pro" division, not back yard.
3)reflect on your experience over the offseason and make any changes or upgrades as you see fit. then you can make more educated choices.

with that said, after cooking on WSM's for @ 5 years, if there was any budget for me for this wonderful hobby, i would invest in 2 humphries half pints for competing.

good luck out there.

Militant83 · 07-08-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by boogiesnap

i would suggest forgeting about what cooker to buy...for now.

you're considering investing 1,2,3 thousand dollars on a tool for something you haven't tried yet.

my opinion, take it for what it's worth, is:
1)get yourself a 22" WSM and a kettle, some blues hog and smoking guns hot.
2)do a practice run or two right quick and HIT UP A COMP! "pro" division, not back yard.
3)reflect on your experience over the offseason and make any changes or upgrades as you see fit. then you can make more educated choices.

with that said, after cooking on WSM's for @ 5 years, if there was any budget for me for this wonderful hobby, i would invest in 2 humphries half pints for competing.

good luck out there.

I don't care for the WSM personally, I've used them in the past. And this purchase isn't just for competitions, I also wanted a nice insulated cooker that will hold up well in the cold Ohio winters if I chose to cook over the winter.

Well guys, as much as I wanted to try to get to a comp this weekend and see some cookers in person, that is now a no go. Work isn't wanting to play well with me taking the time off unfortunately. So it looks like this will end up being a sight unseen purchase unless I can get down to the KCBS event in Cincinnati in October.

boogiesnap · 07-08-2014, 12:39 PM

i can understand that.

but it's not about liking or disliking a particular cooker, but rather competition itself. i'd say it would be prudent to at least get your feet wet before making any major investments in the hobby.

but anyway, for the dollar value, i would go with humphries. 2 smaller ones for versatility. you can cook alot if you like or a little, different or same temps/start times, and they are portable.

hedge · 07-08-2014, 01:18 PM

i disagree with getting two smaller cookers at once. I'd rather have one larger than two small, just my opinion though.

BBQ_MAFIA · 07-08-2014, 02:00 PM

Attached below are the specs for Spicewine cookers. As far as I know the Super Medium is a special order and the specs are not on the web site.

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I think a large is 42x38

Slamdunkpro · 07-08-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BBQ_MAFIA

Attached below are the specs for Spicewine cookers. As far as I know the Super Medium is a special order and the specs are not on the web site.

Your post made me curious so I measured my super medium racks they're 26" W x 35" D

07-07-2014, 03:01 PM	#52
Biged92 On the road to being a farker Join Date: 03-30-12 Location: Huntington Beach, California	From a competition standpoint, our Assassin has been awesome. It has helped turn out some great product. As for bridging we have never had a problem. The Assassin design (this may also be true for the Rebels and Superior lines), the chute starts off 6" wide at the top, and is 8" wide at the bottom to help prevent bridging. But I also do a 50/50 mixture of Stubbs and RO lump, and I go through all of the lump to make sure the pieces are roughly 4" or smaller. Like others have said, find a cooker that fit's your needs and style of cooking, get your timings down, and you'll be golden. The Assassin has definitely been the best fit for us. Good Luck. __________________ Big Ed Sharpe Gourmet Cooking Wood 22.5 WSM w/ WiFi Stoker \| 22.5" OTS \| Assassin28 \| Traeger Lil Tex Elite \| GMG Daniel Boone

07-08-2014, 10:39 AM	#55
boogiesnap Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-22-10 Location: NEW ENGLAND	i would suggest forgeting about what cooker to buy...for now. you're considering investing 1,2,3 thousand dollars on a tool for something you haven't tried yet. my opinion, take it for what it's worth, is: 1)get yourself a 22" WSM and a kettle, some blues hog and smoking guns hot. 2)do a practice run or two right quick and HIT UP A COMP! "pro" division, not back yard. 3)reflect on your experience over the offseason and make any changes or upgrades as you see fit. then you can make more educated choices. with that said, after cooking on WSM's for @ 5 years, if there was any budget for me for this wonderful hobby, i would invest in 2 humphries half pints for competing. good luck out there. __________________ [SIZE="3"][B][COLOR="Blue"][I][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"][/FONT]"YAWN"[/I][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]-[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="2"]In memory of a friend.[/SIZE][/COLOR] avatar by grillman. patent pending. :mad2::becky:

07-08-2014, 12:39 PM	#57
boogiesnap Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-22-10 Location: NEW ENGLAND	i can understand that. but it's not about liking or disliking a particular cooker, but rather competition itself. i'd say it would be prudent to at least get your feet wet before making any major investments in the hobby. but anyway, for the dollar value, i would go with humphries. 2 smaller ones for versatility. you can cook alot if you like or a little, different or same temps/start times, and they are portable. __________________ [SIZE="3"][B][COLOR="Blue"][I][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"][/FONT]"YAWN"[/I][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]-[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="2"]In memory of a friend.[/SIZE][/COLOR] avatar by grillman. patent pending. :mad2::becky:

07-08-2014, 01:18 PM	#58
hedge Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 11-23-12 Location: MN	i disagree with getting two smaller cookers at once. I'd rather have one larger than two small, just my opinion though.