Group Discussion #1 Rubber gloves

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bbqjoe

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Please discuss YOUR USE of rubber gloves. (This is not a poll)

Do you use rubber gloves?

When do you use them?
When do you change them?
What are your thoughts in general on rubber gloves?
 
i use them the second the meat comes out of the cryo or butcher paper. Or whenever im am doing prep work. Go thru them like water.

Change them whenever i handle something besides the meat or a utensil, or I switch meats.

See the jars in this pic? they got a glove on them. I also put on glove on all the rub jars and shakers before i start prepwork so I dont get coodies on them or from them.
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Thoughts in General? Besides keeping my coodies off the food, and making me all gross from the fats and blood. ?

I hate handling raw meat.. (gag reflex). The gloves make it easier to prep. I dont have to keep washing hands just to open the fridge or a cabinet. i get the foodhandlers glove box for $6 per box/100 and i buy them in lots of 12. I also buy them a size bigger so they come off an on easily and go on easily. I will use a box a week at home during bbq seasons and at least a box at a contest. But im notorious for putting them on doing one thing then throwing them out..

I switch to the smaller size for slicing, so i know where my fingers end.
 
I use the nitrile gloves. They're a lot stronger. But like Phil, I use them constantly! I went through a whole box of 40 gloves in two contests. The glove over the rub bottles is a great idea!
 
I use the nitrile gloves also ( buy in bulk at Napa). I started buying in larger quantities, as I have run out by turn in time in a few cases. Since I go through them also.

If you buy the size above your hand size, you can fit them over OVE Gloves - and have heat resisitance without staining your OVE Gloves grabbing slabs/butts, etc. out of the smoker.
 
Jeff_in_KC said:
I use the nitrile gloves. They're a lot stronger. But like Phil, I use them constantly! I went through a whole box of 40 gloves in two contests. The glove over the rub bottles is a great idea!

I had to make sure I was using BLUE nitrile gloves. Wayne and Jeff like to brand my CROCs as brokeback BBQ shoes, so I try to avoid the purple nitriles - one of them might get excited after the margarita machine is empty:shock:

They stand up to alot of abuse. In my avatar, you can see them on me... I'm standing at a slicer - having just cut about 10 flats. No rips or tears :eusa_clap
 
I use REAL disposable gloves with no powder. Can't STAND those clear plastic one-size-fits-all things! I snap a pair on before I open the cryovac to rinse, dry and rub the meat, then use another pair when I get ready to slice or shred it after it's cooked.

Of course, they also help when you're gutting a deer. They protect you a little from bone shards and lung butter....:biggrin: <smirk>
 
At home, I don't use gloves at all. I had to learn some healthcare procedures last year and the first thing they teach you is as soon as you remove gloves, wash your hands. If I'm using all that soap and water, the gloves can stay in the box.

When I have help prepping meat for a cook, I alway have one person stay "clean", while the other handles the meat. The "clean" person handles the spices, sprays, clean utensils, etc but never the meat, and the meat person never touches anything but the meat.
When I have to prep solo, I use a lotta soap and water.
 
I don't use gloves when preparing to cook, just real clean hands.

After the food/meat is cooked, that's when I use them to handle, slice, serve, etc.

I use the latex extra large disposal ones because I can't find any of the real cheapo clear ones that fit. I use them for all kinds of projects around the house, yard and autos.
 
I use clean hands and gloves nearly 100% of the time...I used to get finger nail-bed infections when I butchered a lot and handled a lot of raw meat (I'm guessing a lot of it was salmonella but the doc never got back to me with the culture results)...once I started using gloves the infections were greatly reduced.

There is a general rule in food handling that you always use gloves for food not being cooked (or additionally cooked) -- in other words, technically you can handle raw meats with bare hands (clean, of course) because the meat will then be cooked - however, to keep Phil and other squeamish types from calling the Reps or food cops on you, it's best to wear gloves at all times.

Changing gloves between meats (prep time) is a no-brainer, especially when handling the chicken.

I use heavy duty neoprene (plumber or welder type) gloves to handle the meat in the cooker - I can usually get away with no liners, but a cotton glove liner makes a huge difference in the time you can hold a 14# brisket while waiting for someone to get off their ass and move the stuff off the cutting board (no, Tim is never guilty of this!!).

I prefer the nitril type but unpowdered latex work ok for me. I do prefer the heavier gauge gloves and like them to fit. I don't like poly gloves or the thin plastic "sandwich maker" type disposables.
 
Lots of hot soapy water on hands, utentils, counters. I have worked as a dietary aide before. Gloves just transfer bacteria from one item to the next.
 
Ive never used gloves but always wondered if I should. Do you wear the gloves so you dont get something nasty from the meat thru a papercut? Or wear the gloves so you dont contaminate the meat?

Thanks Joe
 
Some good points people!!!
A lot of good info and practices!
Keep them coming.
 
I wear rubber gloves. I get em at Gordons Food Service. Their disposable so I go through a lot of them. I wear em when I slather/rub my meats. Then I pitchem. I also don new gloves when I load the food on the pit. I wear 500 degree safe, gloves when pulling the meat off the pit. These I was w/hot soapy water, rinse really well. I usually put them in a clean plastic bag until ready for use. These work really really well when manhandling briskets, butts and are absolutely great for beer butt chickens. When guests arrive to help pull/slice or cut food they wear the gloves also. I think the guests really appreciate the fact that were doing everything possible to keep them safe. I wear welding gloves when sliding out the grates to spritz or move food on the pit. These are new welding gloves, not what I use weld with. But they get dirty really fast.
Mike
 
Ah yeah, good point Mike. Outdoor gloves are important too! I use one step down from welding gloves to work the fire. They're heavy enough to grab and (quickly) move live coals without being TOO bulky.
 
Ohhh, rubber gloves. Grab something to drink and get comfortable.

First off let me just say because there are rules in the heath industry guidelines ( hereafter referred to for simplicity as HIG) it doesn't neccessarily mean that I agree with them.

Now then,

For starters latex is out! Synthetic latex is in.
It has come to HI awareness that there are a number of people out there who have allergies or reactions to latex.

HIG says that all ready to eat foods must be handled with gloves.
This means veggies, jerky, meat, bread, or any product that is going directly to the consumer.

Chad is right on when he pointed out that gloves are not necessary when handling meats or other food items that have yet to be cooked.

HIG also states that the proper procedure for glove wearing is this:
Wash hands thoroughly including forearms up to the elbows.
Dry hands on clean dry towel and apply gloves. When the gloves become dirty or torn, remove gloves. Wash hands again and apply new gloves.

I'm with KCquer on this one. If I just washed my hands thoroughly, how much cleaner is a pair of gloves going to be? ( More on this in a bit)

HIG also says to treat gloved hands the same as bare hands.
In other words if you touch something dirty or contaminated, you would then need to change gloves, the same as needing to rewash hands.

Who are these gloves for anyway?
Mostly they are for the protection of the general public. Not the food handler.

We have reached a point (some years ago) when the pork industry cleaned up their act, and trichinosis also known as Anisakas, has been pretty much irradicated.
So the need to protect yourself from raw pork really isn't an issue.

A number of years ago while working in a restaurant kitchen, I found myself feeling terribly ill almost every evening halfway through my shift.
This hadn't happened the previous six months that I worked there, so I wasn't sure what was causing this. Well to make a long story short I started using tongs when handling the meat. I all of a sudden had no problems. I slowly started backing off from the tongs, until one night the illness returned. It was the marinated chicken! The marinade wasn't being changed daily, and I was developing salmonella every night.

If you have any open wounds on your hands, they need to be cleaned and gloved. Period.

So do we need to wear gloves when handling raw meat? The answer is no.
Should we? Not a bad idea.
Its also a good idea to wear them when applying rubs. If you have ever accidently rubbed an eye with seasonings on your hands, you can testify as to the discomfort.

I have gone around and around with the health dept. lady here over the glove issue. On one visit she saw me wash my hands, open a bag of jerky, place a piece in a serving dish and take it to a customer. She busted my chops for not using gloves.

I do feel it is best to wear them, needed or not when in customer view.
Thanks for all the input!
Until later,
Joe
 
I just keep it simple and glove up all the time, if I remember.

JohnMc gave me some "indistructable" gloves in XL size. Perfect for pulling pork with a pair of thin cotton gloves under them! Thanks.

TIM
 
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Now gloves I kow about. Absolutley latex is out. too many allergies and the Nitriles are much stronger. In health care we use Universal precautions. that is...assume everyone has everything. And treat them that way. same with working with meats. Assume everything is contagious or infectious and treat accordingly. Just because gloves are on don;t forget clean procedures, no money then food. Can make it one hand for money one hand for food. Wash before and after gloves, after to remove any accumulations on your hands of sweat and bacteria. Hey, it;s hot and sweaty inside those gloves. Also, don't be afraid to use a good moisturizer after all day in gloves. You hands deserve the break. Scott
 
I just prefer to wear gloves when handling raw meat because I don't wanna miss getting something completely washed off then end up licking a finger or whatever. I especially use gloves when handling chicken and pork. I wasn't aware that pork was not such a big problem now. That's good to know. Maybe it's just the stygma attached to it but pork and chicken scare me. Beef, I'm OK with. Weird, huh?
 
Good discussion... last week, I went though a box of 50 individual gloves prepping 9 racks of ribs and three dozen chicken parts. More so in that I was using so many different bottles of rub.... I like Phil's idea of wrapping bottles in the glove... so simple....

I like keeping my hands dry during prep work so gloves are a must for me when handling meat. Funny thing is I only use gloves when prepping BBQ. regular weekday meals etc. revert back to old habits...
 
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