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09-15-2019, 02:32 AM | #1 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 07-15-13
Location: Butler PA
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270 Smoker Sumo problem need some ideas
Lets be perfectly clear from the get go this is not a thread about saying how great 270 is or how dumb I am or vice versa. Blah blah don't care. Save it.
I am looking to solve my own issue. Thats it. So please be civil. No bashing anyone including the manufacturer or myself thanks. So at this point I have contacted the manufacturer which unfortunately has not lead to a resolution. It is what it is. I have a very weird staining or chemical reaction that has caused letters from the official 270 Smokers cover to imprint themself on the powdercoat. So far I have tried krud kutter, simple green, dawn soap diluted, and denatured alcohol. Any ideas how to remove this staining? Oh yeah dont use simple green. 270 only approves krud kutter. Pretty much blamed my use of simple green as why it did that... Even though the cover was put on when it was cold and also dry. All I am saying is if you use anything but krud kutter you are up chit creek. So don't screw yourself. As I am on my own I am open to suggestions. |
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09-15-2019, 06:44 AM | #2 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 12-27-17
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Acetone and xylene makes a pretty effective stain/gunk remover. You will want thick rubber gloves, it will dissolve the thin nitrile/latex gloves.
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09-15-2019, 06:54 AM | #3 |
Babbling Farker
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09-15-2019, 06:57 AM | #4 |
Babbling Farker
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Mixed, but you could try the xylene straight, it is a strong solvent, if that fails mix 50/50 with the acetone. Both products should be available at the borg.
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09-15-2019, 07:55 AM | #5 |
is One Chatty Farker
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Turtle wax polishing compound may work on it. I have used it on my Humphrey’s to buff some stains out.
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09-15-2019, 08:27 AM | #6 | |
Babbling Farker
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I might give it a go but will be doing some research first. Worse come to worse I get it redone by someone else. I am thinking a dark green main body and black doors. |
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09-15-2019, 10:15 AM | #7 |
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I'd go with a fairly aggressive polishing compound. My thoughts are that acetone will remove not only the stain but the powder coating as well. If you were to use acetone I'd certainly test in an area that's not visible.
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09-15-2019, 01:03 PM | #8 |
is One Chatty Farker
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It's hard to tell from your small pics, but I had what appears to be pretty much the exact same spotting on mine except it was on the top of the cooker. So no letters transferred to the paint, but the stain looks identical.
I assumed it was from water sitting on top of the cover. When it rained, water would pool in a particular area of the top of cover every time. I noticed a faint washed out area where the water would sit. Just as aside, I never cleaned my cooker with anything but a rag and water. I don't really know how to help, but I don't think it was caused by simple green. |
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09-15-2019, 01:34 PM | #9 | |
Babbling Farker
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Any other 270 Smokers owners have an issue? Just was wondering. |
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09-15-2019, 01:51 PM | #10 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 07-15-13
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Messaged the link to the folks at 270 Smokers. Thought this might be of interest to them. Again i am not smearing them. Just looking for a solution. Thought it might help them to copy them on the topic to prevent future issues. Again I am out of warranty and simple green is not an approved cleaner. So I am fully aware I am up chit creek.
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09-15-2019, 02:34 PM | #11 |
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Are you certain that is a stain that can be removed? If the powdercoat got discolored or bleached by a chemical reaction it may be that way permanently and no amount of cleaning products will remove it.
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09-15-2019, 02:42 PM | #12 | |
Babbling Farker
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I am trying to explore options right now and see if I can do something. I never had anything powder coated. So not sure what to expect for the cost. So right now I am assuming its a stain. It very well could be permanent. Once I have tried every idea then I may explore getting a powder coater to redo the finish. |
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09-15-2019, 02:47 PM | #13 |
is One Chatty Farker
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I kind of assumed mine was permanently faded. It didn't bother me too much as it was on top, but it didn't strike me as something that could be scrubbed away. I really like the factory paint job on the 270s.
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09-15-2019, 03:10 PM | #14 | |
Babbling Farker
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If it was plain old paint I would already have it out and polished like glass. I would have already used a polishing compound but it may wear through the powder coat. It is an abrassive. Heck if it was smooth powder coat it would be easier. The textured stuff looks cool but imo is hard to restore because of the texture. Polishing compound is supposed to smooth out rough surfaces such as imperfections. I think something is wrong with the cover causing the problem not necessarily the powdercoat. For some reason sitting in the sun caused it to react or stain. I really don't think Simple Green is the culprit. As the warranty is expired nothing says they have to fix it. So up chit creek. I have decided to try to fix it. If not I will get the powder coat redone in the future. Maybe trade up to something else. |
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09-15-2019, 04:11 PM | #15 |
is one Smokin' Farker
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What you have is some sort of moisture stain. I know because I have a couple on mine when I tried to clean it when it was still warm. I am guessing some sort of moisture got on the cloth inside of your cover (from laying on the ground, rain, etc.) and didn't notice it when you put the cover on. As the sun beat down on the black part of the cover if left a stain as the moisture was evaporating. Very much like when you place something hot directly on a polished dining room table and it leaves that hazy mark that doesn't go away. This is not a manufacturing/powder coating defect. It can simply be left as something that just happened, and knowing you Tom, it was definitely not intentional. I can tell that you have taken good care of that cooker when I stopped Thursday night.
I have been talking to the manufacturer about this issue and will try some potential solutions on mine to see if they work. Bashing the manufacturer one week from making them aware of the issue isn't cool. You have to give them time to possibly replicate the issue and find a solution. It's not as if the paint has peeled off and exposed the metal, it is a very mild discolor cosmetic issue and has no effect on how the cooker works, so I would think that you could be patient.
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