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Old 01-20-2018, 05:10 PM   #16
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Your brisket is fine - go cook it!

Uhhh, no.
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Old 12-10-2019, 05:33 AM   #17
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It would have been fine. A brisket is a very large piece of meat. You went from Frozen to thawed ... room temperature only at 60F in a gentle time. Even several hours at that temp is not long enough to allow sufficient surface colonisation of bacteria. It's sad. I see so much meat wasted here because people don't understand this process.

Again, I state.. it's just not possible for something to grow enough bacteria and toxins in a few hours that's going to kill you, or at least give you the trots or a belly ache.

Now of course leaving ribs or chicken in a car for the weekend... yeah

But a brisky on the counter? Throwing that out is a waste... and fellas, please don't redirect me to various FDA articles. They are designed to tell you to throw out everything regardless. Gotta keep you safe you see... Can't leave anything up to interpretation or speculation, just in case someone is liberal about it and sues the government when their kids get sick because some chicken nuggets got left on the counter for 20 minutes too long.
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You been day drinking again Aussie? This thread is 2 years old!
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Old 12-10-2019, 07:11 AM   #19
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You been day drinking again Aussie? This thread is 2 years old!
Wasn't Bill's fault, a spammer brought the thread back to life. Their post was before his. Now history.
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I left an awesome pot of chili out on the stove to cool before putting it in the fridge. You guessed it, left it out all night and had to toss it.
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You been day drinking again Aussie? This thread is 2 years old!
I think what he was saying is after 2yrs, if it is still sitting out, then it is good. That much time it has to be safe
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Wasn't Bill's fault, a spammer brought the thread back to life. Their post was before his. Now history.
Yes, thanks fellas. Sorry. The thread popped up by a spammer.. Someone from India recommending HomeStay. I reported it and then looked at the content of the thread without looking at the date and thought... Oh good grief. Not another Brisky fed to the pets.

As for the day drinking... no. I was perfectly sober and in fact wrote that about 9pm last night just before tucking in to bed. Haven't had a drink since that Lamb cook where a few extra strong Scotches poured by a neighbor lead me into the weeds.
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I left an awesome pot of chili out on the stove to cool before putting it in the fridge. You guessed it, left it out all night and had to toss it.
And here we go again... More misunderstanding.

You just made some chili. It was boiling on the stove right? The chili is therefore sterile and even in the infinitesimally small chance there is of having something like botulism spores in that chili, there is still not enough time overnight to overwhelm this pot of food and hurt you.

Not only that, you left the lid on right? So it's sterile inside AND there is no way anything can get in to contaminate it. There is no VECTOR. No TRANSMISSION. No chance of contamination. So it cools for a few hours overnight and you throw it away because you've been led to believe that this is going to be contaminated. I thought the concept of "spontaneous generation" went out the window a few hundred years ago. Just WHERE are the bacteria going to come from????

And someone will come along and say "When in doubt throw it out" and someone else will put up an FDA link to the flipping Danger Zone and the mass hysteria continues.

I'm asking you to THINK about how things can get contaminated and dangerous to eat, and that doesn't happen with chili left out overnight on a stove with the lid on.
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Are you day drinking now? Maybe you should think about trying it!?
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In the winter I leave the lid on and put it outside to cool. A couple times Ive left it and it froze/slushie. Once I forgot and the lid was on the other side of the deck. That got tossed. Squirrel poo contamination was all I could think about.
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Are you day drinking now? Maybe you should think about trying it!?
And this is the kind of response I expect. No I'm not drinking. The misunderstanding that so many of you have about food safety is so that you naturally think I am either drinking or nuts or both... but I can tell you, the rest of the world pays very little attention to the FDA and people don't get sick from eating perfectly good food that the FDA would tell you to throw out.

I'm trying to get some understanding of this across but it's a hell of a battle as very few of you are looking at things objectively or scientifically. Where's GORE when I need him!
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And this is the kind of response I expect. No I'm not drinking. The misunderstanding that so many of you have about food safety is so that you naturally think I am either drinking or nuts or both... but I can tell you, the rest of the world pays very little attention to the FDA and people don't get sick from eating perfectly good food that the FDA would tell you to throw out.

I'm trying to get some understanding of this across but it's a hell of a battle as very few of you are looking at things objectively or scientifically. Where's GORE when I need him!
So.....drinking heavily then??
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So.....drinking heavily then??
You eat pig eyeballs. Clearly you know nothing about food safety.

Heavy drinking however....you have attained expert level.
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And this is the kind of response I expect. I am drinking heavily. The misunderstanding that so many of you have about food safety is so that you naturally think I am either drinking or nuts or both... but I can tell you, the rest of the world pays very little attention to the FDA and people do get sick from eating perfectly tainted food that the FDA would tell you to throw out.

I'm trying to get some understanding of this across but it's a hell of a battle as very few of you are looking at things objectively or scientifically. Where's GORE when I need him!
There fixed that for you.

In all seriousness you are probably correct. The FDA simply is idiot proofing against food borne illness.
If you follow their guidelines you won't get sick. Guaranteed.
If you look at the science of it yeah you will be fine. It takes one dumb person misunderstanding science and bam they are sick and blaming the FDA. So yeah they make idiot proof regulations as there are idiots that would get sick because of a misunderstanding.
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