Chicken Salad as turn in?

Smoking Pill Doc · 09-11-2019, 06:56 PM

I was talking with the KCBS rep at my last comp about chicken. They threw out the idea of chicken salad. You could add apples, nuts, onions, etc as long as you keep size to 1/8”. Mayonnaise is an acceptable “sauce”. You can add crispy chicken skin as well.

That being said... anyone try it as a turn in option? Can you turn it in cold? If you could turn it in cold, you could cook it up as early as you wanted (post meat inspection of course).

pigmaker23 · 09-12-2019, 05:34 AM

Go for it, I would try it only at a Auto Contest to the Jack, LOL, but seriously, in New England it most likely will tank, I would do it for a NEBS grilling contest. Good luck

Ron_L · 09-12-2019, 06:28 AM

Yep, it would be legal, but if you have just one bit that is bigger than 1/8", it could be a DQ. Plus, I'm not sure how the judges would react

If would be fun to try

Funtimebbq · 09-12-2019, 08:30 AM

In 2013 (maybe 2014) at the Santa Anita contest a team next to me turned in chicken salad. The contest had well over 70 teams that year and they finished last in chicken.

didisea · 09-12-2019, 11:56 AM

I've always wanted to do smoked gizzards and hearts.

BoneDaddy's · 09-12-2019, 12:31 PM

I am pushing for PB&J or Grilled Cheese!

Jason TQ · 09-12-2019, 09:08 PM

Pappy Q · 09-13-2019, 04:41 AM

At a contest last year, myself and two buddies did “outside the box” chicken entries (one was chicken salad). While neighbors raved about them, judges thought much differently. All finished at the bottom.

BruceB · 09-14-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoking Pill Doc

I was talking with the KCBS rep at my last comp about chicken. They threw out the idea of chicken salad. You could add apples, nuts, onions, etc as long as you keep size to 1/8”. Mayonnaise is an acceptable “sauce”. You can add crispy chicken skin as well.

That being said... anyone try it as a turn in option? Can you turn it in cold? If you could turn it in cold, you could cook it up as early as you wanted (post meat inspection of course).

Wouldn't the apples, nuts, onions, grapes or whatever you add to it, regardless of size, be considered foreign objects and cause a DQ?

NoNotTheDuo · 09-14-2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceB

Wouldn't the apples, nuts, onions, grapes or whatever you add to it, regardless of size, be considered foreign objects and cause a DQ?

Not according to the rules. Rule 13 for this year:

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13)Sauce is optional. If used,it shall be applied directly to the meat and not be pooled or puddled in the container. No side sauce containers will be permitted in the turn-in container. Chunky sauce will be allowed. Chunks are to be no larger than a fine dice, approximately 1/8 inch cubed. Sauce violations shall receive a penalty score of one (1) on Appearance.

If the mayonnaise is your sauce, and you add chunks of apples/nuts/onions/etc. that are less than approximately 1/8" cubed to the mayonnaise, you have just made a legal, chunky sauce.

ModelMaker · 09-15-2019, 07:24 AM

My initial thought was isn't sauce something you put "on" vs "a integral part of the dish"?
So I Giggled it and now know different.

In cooking, a sauce is a liquid, cream, or semi-solid food, served on or used in preparing other foods. Most sauces are not normally consumed by themselves; they add flavor, moisture, and visual appeal to a dish. Sauce is a French word taken from the Latin salsa, meaning salted. Wikipedia

So go ahead and turn in chicken salad, all you have to do then is survive rule #1.
Ed

Bill-Chicago · 09-15-2019, 12:33 PM

If you're going to attempt it, just be aware of the statistics involved.

The most glaring one is that it is a statistical fact that 74.1% of the population believes that mayo's only place is in the yard buried next to the mesquite.

Your judging pool better be going against the average

If you try it, better do so at an Alabama contest.

ynotfehc · 09-15-2019, 10:43 PM

Perhaps you are independently wealthy and the costs of doing a comp isn't a big deal. For me thats not the case and I wouldn't waste my time trying to turn in something that far outside of the box, possibly for anything butt, but not for regular chicken turn in. People think its risky to do legs or wings, and your looking to make a cold waldorf chicken salad...if you're looking for ways to improve your chicken scores, this isn't it.

rob g · 09-16-2019, 05:03 AM

I received pulled/chopped chicken this summer for the first time. It was lightly sauced and well cooked. It got 8's and 9's from me. I don't know how the rest of the table scored it. Not sure how chicken salad would be any different. I'd like to see something different come across the table for a change.

EricD · 09-18-2019, 11:19 AM

(I don't compete)
In New England, just add walnuts and cranberry's....

09-12-2019, 05:34 AM	#2
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09-12-2019, 06:28 AM	#3
Ron_L Moderator Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Wandering, but not lost Name/Nickname : Captain Ron	Yep, it would be legal, but if you have just one bit that is bigger than 1/8", it could be a DQ. Plus, I'm not sure how the judges would react If would be fun to try __________________ "Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..." Naked Fatties Rock! PKGo X 2/PK360/Weber Q1000/Blackstone Camping Griddle/Pit Boss Pro Series 850

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09-15-2019, 07:24 AM	#11
ModelMaker Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 04-21-06 Location: Lake Ponderosa-Montezuma, IA	My initial thought was isn't sauce something you put "on" vs "a integral part of the dish"? So I Giggled it and now know different. In cooking, a sauce is a liquid, cream, or semi-solid food, served on or used in preparing other foods. Most sauces are not normally consumed by themselves; they add flavor, moisture, and visual appeal to a dish. Sauce is a French word taken from the Latin salsa, meaning salted. Wikipedia So go ahead and turn in chicken salad, all you have to do then is survive rule #1. Ed __________________ Designer of a custom drum smoker Customized Aussie gas passer Turkey fryer Extremely seasoned hand hammered Wok Pit Boss-HART BURN Competition BBQ Team KCBS certified judge And Your not the boss of me either!!

09-11-2019, 06:56 PM	#1
Smoking Pill Doc Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 11-07-13 Location: Middletown, CT	Chicken Salad as turn in? I was talking with the KCBS rep at my last comp about chicken. They threw out the idea of chicken salad. You could add apples, nuts, onions, etc as long as you keep size to 1/8”. Mayonnaise is an acceptable “sauce”. You can add crispy chicken skin as well. That being said... anyone try it as a turn in option? Can you turn it in cold? If you could turn it in cold, you could cook it up as early as you wanted (post meat inspection of course). __________________ Team Meat BBQ - Stump's Baby XL - Bayou Classic Cypress (ugly stepchild to BGE) - Weber Q Gasser

09-12-2019, 08:30 AM	#4
Funtimebbq Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 11-19-09 Location: Whittier, CA	In 2013 (maybe 2014) at the Santa Anita contest a team next to me turned in chicken salad. The contest had well over 70 teams that year and they finished last in chicken.

09-12-2019, 11:56 AM	#5
didisea Take a breath! Join Date: 11-09-11 Location: Everett, WA	I've always wanted to do smoked gizzards and hearts.

09-13-2019, 04:41 AM	#8
Pappy Q is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 04-08-10 Location: Elk Creek, KY	At a contest last year, myself and two buddies did “outside the box” chicken entries (one was chicken salad). While neighbors raved about them, judges thought much differently. All finished at the bottom.

09-15-2019, 12:33 PM	#12
Bill-Chicago somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Chicago Southwestern Burbs, but always south of Madison Ave. Name/Nickname : Professor Dickweed	If you're going to attempt it, just be aware of the statistics involved. The most glaring one is that it is a statistical fact that 74.1% of the population believes that mayo's only place is in the yard buried next to the mesquite. Your judging pool better be going against the average If you try it, better do so at an Alabama contest. __________________ . Bill-Chicago The death of "willkat98" Me: If you aren't woke, that means you're still sleeping, right? Kid today: That's racist! Bandera, M-BGE, WSM, Gold Kettle, Kenmore Gasser, 36Qt Turkey Fryer, ECB, Dutch Oven, Black Iron BBQ Viper-M, Blackstone 36" Griddle

09-15-2019, 10:43 PM	#13
ynotfehc Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 07-03-13 Location: St Paul, MN	Perhaps you are independently wealthy and the costs of doing a comp isn't a big deal. For me thats not the case and I wouldn't waste my time trying to turn in something that far outside of the box, possibly for anything butt, but not for regular chicken turn in. People think its risky to do legs or wings, and your looking to make a cold waldorf chicken salad...if you're looking for ways to improve your chicken scores, this isn't it.

09-16-2019, 05:03 AM	#14
rob g Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 03-29-14 Location: Baden, Ontario, Canada	I received pulled/chopped chicken this summer for the first time. It was lightly sauced and well cooked. It got 8's and 9's from me. I don't know how the rest of the table scored it. Not sure how chicken salad would be any different. I'd like to see something different come across the table for a change. __________________ Kamado Joe Classic UDS KCBS MCBJ, KCBS CTC

09-18-2019, 11:19 AM	#15
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