|
Q-talk *ON TOPIC ONLY* QUALITY ON TOPIC discussion of Backyard BBQ, grilling, equipment and outdoor cookin' . ** Other cooking techniques are welcomed for when your cookin' in the kitchen. Post your hints, tips, tricks & techniques, success, failures, but stay on topic and watch for that hijacking. |
|
Thread Tools |
05-20-2018, 06:42 AM | #16 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-30-11
Location: Pemberton, New Jersey
|
Quote:
As far as those who say there is more to clean-up with a wet brine, I disagree. Depending on the amount Half Gallon, One Gallon, or Two Gallon ZipLoc bags work fine. Nothing to clean-up, just toss the bag. For those who prefer a container (like myself), Cambro makes inexpensive 2 Qt and 4 Qt containers with a small foot print. They also use the same lid. https://www.webstaurantstore.com/cambro-2sfsp148-2-qt-white-square-poly-food-storage-container-with-kelly-green-colored-gradations/2142SFSP.html https://www.webstaurantstore.com/cambro-4sfsp148-4-qt-white-square-poly-food-storage-container-with-kelly-green-colored-gradations/2144SFSP.html Last edited by IamMadMan; 05-20-2018 at 11:39 AM.. |
|
1 members found this post helpful. |
Thanks from:---> |
05-20-2018, 06:52 AM | #17 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 02-08-10
Location: Howell, MI
|
Meathead has a nice article about dry brining.
https://amazingribs.com/tested-recip...ul-wet-brining Assuming you already have a rub you like for chicken, leave out the salt in the rub and apply the rub after brining.
__________________
Two Weber daisy wheel kettles A: 1979 P: 1993, and an unused ECB |
|
05-20-2018, 10:01 AM | #18 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 01-03-09
Location: Texas
|
This is the best wet brine I have found.
http://ruhlman.com/2010/10/how-to-br...-brine-recipe/ |
|
Thanks from:---> |
05-20-2018, 10:08 AM | #19 |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 04-28-12
Location: Wis-con-sin
|
Dry brine, no contest. Wet brine water-logs the meat adding to perceived juiciness, but diluted flavor. Plus you're fighting all that extra water when you want crispy skin. I'm a HUGE fan of J. Kenji Lopez-Alt's scientific food research. The guy REALLY knows his chit! Here's his take;
https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/11/...nksgiving.html
__________________
Kettleheads Anonymous Charter Member |
|
Thanks from:---> |
05-21-2018, 09:42 AM | #20 | |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 06-01-17
Location: St. Louis, Mo
|
Quote:
|
|
|
Thanks from:---> |
05-21-2018, 11:28 AM | #21 |
Found some matches.
Join Date: 06-10-12
Location: Palo Alto, CA
|
For whole chicken, I go wet brine. For small pieces like wings or drumsticks, dry brine is fine.
|
|
05-21-2018, 06:02 PM | #22 |
On the road to being a farker
Join Date: 01-10-13
Location: KCMO
|
I’ve had good luck with both. I’ve been using oakridge game changer brine lately and really like it. It takes the “mess” out of it for me. Warm on a stove and let cool, pour into a 2 gallon zip loc bag and add chicken.
__________________
Buckshots Brew n' Que - The Good One Marshall - WSM 22 - Follow me on Instagram- buckshot_brewnque |
|
05-22-2018, 07:07 AM | #23 |
is Blowin Smoke!
Join Date: 06-27-17
Location: Langdorp, Belgium
Name/Nickname : Yoeri
|
I'm a 'dry-briner'.
I use about 1,5% (of the weight of the bird) of salt. I then add my rub. Wrap in plastic foil and leave in the fridge for 48hours. Remove foil and let it dry uncovered in the fridge for another 24 hours. Cook at about 325F. Always comes out moist and delicious. My chicken/turkey rub: 1 tablespoon onion powder 1 tablespoon garlic powder 1 tablespoon oregano 1 tablespoon smoked paprika (use hot if you like it more spicy) 1 teaspoon basil 1 teaspoon thyme 1 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper 1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper
__________________
20x40" Nette Lette offset - BBQ PitBox RF vault - Yoder YS640 Comp Cart - BBQ mates SM grill - Weber OTG 22.5" - Weber GA - 13" mini kamado - wood fired oven |
|
Thanks from:---> |
05-22-2018, 07:51 AM | #24 | |
On the road to being a farker
Join Date: 03-25-18
Location: Cincinnati
Name/Nickname : Brian K
|
Quote:
I've used this method for when we have a whole roasted chicken (vs. specific parts like wings, legs, thighs, etc), and that changed the situation from having leftovers for days, to having maybe one night's worth of leftovers. Cool. When I come across some trick or new approach to making a dish, and my wife says, "Make it like this from now on", I can't help but say: "Yes, dear." |
|
|
Thanks from:---> |
05-22-2018, 11:58 AM | #25 |
On the road to being a farker
Join Date: 10-01-15
Location: central IL
|
The reasons we would brine are to help retain moisture and to infuse flavors into the meat. Dry brining uses the meat's juices to get the brine into solution, whereas they are already dissolved in a wet brine. Once dissolved, the same process is at work to get the brine into the meat. It would seem that the concentrations and amounts of brine ingredients should be able to be adjusted to get exactly the same results whether wet or dry. So other than the obvious differences in how the brine is applied, are there any inherent differences in the final result?
I would think that wet brining would get a more consistent brine over all areas of the meat - though it may be insignificant. But what about chicken/turkey skin? Does dry brining really result in more crispy skin? Why?
__________________
team Oui Oui Oui BBQ Last edited by JWACKS; 05-22-2018 at 03:23 PM.. |
|
05-22-2018, 12:12 PM | #26 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 01-25-17
Location: Atlantic Highlands, NJ
|
Dry brining gives the skin more time to dry out, assuming the bird is uncovered in the fridge at least overnight. I've used both methods - they both work well. Last couple of years I just dry brine for the sake of the skin and because it's less work, and because I'm not trying to imbue the bird with a specific flavor other than bird. ;-)
__________________
Large BGE. KBQ C-60, Uuni Pro, TEC Cherokee FR, Polyscience SV machine. And their helpers. |
|
05-22-2018, 12:13 PM | #27 | |
On the road to being a farker
Join Date: 03-25-18
Location: Cincinnati
Name/Nickname : Brian K
|
Quote:
Short-answer: Yes. The more moisture you remove from the skin before cooking, the crispier the skin becomes. Too much moisture will end up steaming the skin, rather than crisping it up. The best way I've found to accomplish this, is thru dry-brining. After the brine reacts with and infuses into the skin, any remaining moisture on the skin's surface can more easily evaporate than could moisture deeper in the skin itself. That's why I suggested a rest in the fridge (a few hours to overnight/24 hours if possible) while dry-brining; it gives the salt enough time to infuse into the meat, enhancing the flavor, and moisture evaporation is enhanced by the cold/dry environment of a fridge, since cold air holds far less moisture than warm air. |
|
|
05-22-2018, 03:10 PM | #28 |
is Blowin Smoke!
Join Date: 05-12-09
Location: Northern Michigan by the Pinkie
|
Peking duck air dries for its classic crisp. Could start from a wet or dry brine.
I wet brine, then air dry, and I can get crispy-like-a-chip skin. Wet brining does not mean wet skin
__________________
Outlaw Smoker 26 x 60 Patio - Stick Burner 007 Drum - Stick Burner Large Big Green Egg - Lump Burner Weber 18” Jumbo Joe - Lump Burner Weber 26" - Lump Burner |
|
|
|