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Old 03-03-2020, 12:21 PM   #151
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Amazingribs coverage of the smokefire really makes me question all the other reviews on the site.


I'm not going to visit there anymore because I don't feel i'm being told the truth.
I'd always used them as a source of truth for reviewing grills, but even looking at some of their platinum pellet grill recommendations, I'm not so sure. Even before the SmokeFire stuff, I found myself questioning how they consider the Camp Chef Woodwind just as good as the Mak smokers. I also remember reading their Bullseye review just after that product was released, and them complaining it didn't have PID, and not recommending it for that, among other reasons.

Their site was helpful years ago when it was one of only a few BBQ/grilling sites, but there are so many more sources nowadays that I hardly ever visit them anymore.

I still don't know what's going on with Meathead, but he seems to be having some kind of break with reality over the past few weeks.
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Old 03-03-2020, 12:22 PM   #152
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Not to keep fueling the (Smoke)fire, but the Amazing Ribs review stated that other pellets even jammed their vacuum hose. This was after discussing the diameter of the pellets. The included picture clearly demonstrates pellets lodged in the vacuum hose due to length of the pellets. The diameter had nothing to do with it.

Weber may be completely right that their pellet augers work better with the thinner diameter pellets, but I don’t think that the vacuum hose picture proves that pellet feed issues are due to this one point. It certainly looks dramatic, but doesn’t prove their point in my estimation.

I think if you’re going to comment on other individuals opinions, you should be prepared to receive equal criticism without getting personal. Again, one persons opinion, but the response from Weber and Amazing Ribs seems like a textbook example of how NOT to address a PR/social media issue. Generally speaking, falling on your sword and acknowledging that individuals may be having issues with profuse words of reassurance that their best people are working on fixes (new pellet feeder attachment) would have served them infinitely better than their twitter videos and radio silence has.
Agreed, and I still can't figure out why Amazing Ribs is so dedicated to proving all the complainers wrong, and defending Weber's product.
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Old 03-03-2020, 12:47 PM   #153
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The cynic in me says "follow the money".
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Old 03-03-2020, 01:01 PM   #154
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The cynic in me says "follow the money".

They claim they do not take money from anybody.

But they do take grills and accessories. There's no doubt it's in their best interest not to tick off the biggest player in the market.
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Old 03-03-2020, 01:31 PM   #155
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They claim they do not take money from anybody.

But they do take grills and accessories. There's no doubt it's in their best interest not to tick off the biggest player in the market.
IMO reviewers that secret squirrel purchase off the shelf items hold more weight than those that take review units and become beholden to the manufacturers for free loot.
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Old 03-03-2020, 01:36 PM   #156
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IMO reviewers that secret squirrel purchase off the shelf items hold more weight than those that take review units and become beholden to the manufacturers for free loot.
They did claim in the review they purchased their SmokeFire.
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:29 PM   #157
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They did claim in the review they purchased their SmokeFire.
That's interesting. I wonder what percentage of reviews mention how the reviewed item was obtained. When I looked at the Mak and BGE reviews I couldn't find a mention of whether they paid off the shelf, it was given to them or a UFO dropped it off.
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Old 03-03-2020, 04:00 PM   #158
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I was at a Weber dealer today and saw my first Smoke Fire. Please accept my apologies if this has previously been posted. The pellet hopper (angle) was sealed with white caulk (both size grills) making it difficult to adjust. Nasty looking caulk job, curious if other folks had seen this. BTW, the grills were already marked down $200.00





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Old 03-03-2020, 04:32 PM   #159
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I have watched the different videos from Harry and BBM.

Harry seems to be out to prove everybody wrong and stay on a good foot with Weber.
If you watch his Part 2 video closely, it becomes very clear why he didn't have a grease fire when he opens the grease drain. It's full of water/grease from his excessive spraying of the meat. He always uses water to spritz and I noticed he was spraying his meat a lot in the video, more than usual. So, all the water propably cleaned the bottom of his cooker.

https://youtu.be/jsUri_VoKag?t=2139
You just came up with a solution to the grease fires!!! Put small water nozzles on the left and right side of the smoker near the bottom to create a small stream of water to flush the grease and ash into the oil pan. Have it cycle on and off to flush everything out at regular intervals
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Old 03-03-2020, 08:11 PM   #160
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I was at a Weber dealer today and saw my first Smoke Fire. Please accept my apologies if this has previously been posted. The pellet hopper (angle) was sealed with white caulk (both size grills) making it difficult to adjust. Nasty looking caulk job, curious if other folks had seen this. BTW, the grills were already marked down $200.00






I saw that also a week or so ago. Really left me scratching my head. I'm not a pellet guy but I don't get why the caulk was there in the first place. As noted above a very sloppy job - sad.
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Old 03-04-2020, 06:07 AM   #161
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Big Weber Original Store Spring opening events coming up in Vienna later this month.
Apart from the season's new Gas grill presentation there are also the usual cooking demos and at center stage the new Weber SmokeFire will be presented / demonstrated in all its glory.


A couple of things that I have noticed.
No charcoal grills are used in the promo pamphlet that came with the post today.

6 x 20x30cm double side colour promo and not one kettle or WSM.
Title page with a Genesis, followed by one page of Genesis models, one page Spirit models, one page SmokeFire, and two pages competitions, promotions, cooking courses, directions, etc.,

The big SmokeFire is retailing for €1,499.- ($1,671US) and the small one €1,199.- ($1,337US)
Big hits in anyone's language.

I wonder if any of the known problems will be addressed by anyone attending ...



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I’ve been a Weber user/fan. I was really hoping this SF was going to be a hit. I was skeptical just because they were coming to market without even having a side shelf. No Front shelf. Ok. I see that as an add on. But no side shelf & a controller that was still in a pretty much beta mode. I see little things possibly needing tweaked in a newer model. That’s normal. But the pellets not sliding down & the grease management system being an issue. Weber should not be selling these at all. Most would respect & give Weber another shot if they had just owned up to it. Call it a supplier error or whatever. I think they’ve probably lost a lot of customers with their whole attitude about this. Their service is usually pretty top notch but I’ve really lost faith in them at this point. Hopefully they take care of everyone involved. All they’ve done is push me into buying another brand’s grill.
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Old 03-04-2020, 07:12 AM   #163
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I saw that also a week or so ago. Really left me scratching my head. I'm not a pellet guy but I don't get why the caulk was there in the first place. As noted above a very sloppy job - sad.
I forgot all about the caulk. Maybe not a big deal, but wonder how it will hold up over time, outdoors.
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Old 03-04-2020, 08:08 AM   #164
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I think they’ve probably lost a lot of customers with their whole attitude about this.



The smokefire also ruined amazingribs.com for a lot of people as well. Damn shame.
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Old 03-04-2020, 08:13 AM   #165
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The smokefire also ruined amazingribs.com for a lot of people as well. Damn shame.


Totally agree with you! Cannot believe the way meathead has handled himself.
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