BackWoods Smoker

wksisnlaw · 05-13-2014, 09:00 AM

Would like to know if anybody out there knows how to get a backwoods up to 300 degrees??? Trying to smoke some crispy chicken wings and they always come out rubbery or tough. "Need Some Help"

Smokesignalsfromtx · 05-13-2014, 09:16 AM

Which one? And how are you set up? Charcoal, lump, water, etc.....

Ron_L · 05-13-2014, 09:16 AM

Which model Backwoods? I can get my Party to 300 degrees and higher by using foil balls in the water pan instead of water.

Smokesignalsfromtx · 05-13-2014, 09:18 AM

Same here....I can do the same w water but it takes a little finagling with the startup to get it to run there.

Dabaras · 05-13-2014, 09:18 AM

The simplest way is no water.

wksisnlaw · 05-13-2014, 09:22 AM

I have the party g2, i have tried it with and without water, with the water pan removed - the diverter still in place and again with the diverter removed and empty water pan in place. Foil Balls ???? can you enlighten me a little more on this subject. and wow thanx for the quick response.

wksisnlaw · 05-13-2014, 09:29 AM

charcoal

Smokesignalsfromtx · 05-13-2014, 09:30 AM

I have the party g2 as well. You should have no problem getting it up there with no water. What are you using for fuel? Lump runs hotter. Also, what are your startup procedures? If I'm running a hotter cook I start out with a hotter fire.

Ron_L · 05-13-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wksisnlaw

I have the party g2, i have tried it with and without water, with the water pan removed - the diverter still in place and again with the diverter removed and empty water pan in place. Foil Balls ???? can you enlighten me a little more on this subject. and wow thanx for the quick response.

The G2 is a little bigger than my regular Party, but it should be able to get to 300.

I keep the diverter and water pan in place. In the water pan I place loosely crumpled balls of heavy duty foil (enough to fill the pan without compressing the balls) and then cover the pan with three or four layers of heavy duty foil. The balls of foil create air pockets that act as a bit of a heat sink but don't hold the temp down like a pan of water will.

When I am going to cook at 300 or higher I will fill my charcoal basket with lump and light one corner with a couple of Weber starter cubes. I keep the firebox door open until I have a decent sized fire going before shutting it and keep the vents and exhaust open until the temp hit around 275. Then I close down the vents as the temp gets closer to my target.

garzanium · 05-13-2014, 09:42 AM

I'm running a fat boy and a home build competitor clone. I add lime half a gallon water at around 200, all vents wide open, let it climb to around 320, then tune vents according to if I want to climb to 350 or stay 300-320 then add rest of water

Usually do 10lb or so kingsford, a full chimney, and 4 large or so 6 inch pieces of oak...takes about 1.5 hrs for thin blue smoke to start roaring

Goddahavit · 05-13-2014, 03:30 PM

Add more lit charcoal....

Red Valley BBQ · 05-13-2014, 07:18 PM

Open your vents!!!!!

pjtexas1 · 05-13-2014, 09:59 PM

I don't have a BW but my insulated cabinet smoker will get to over 400 with enough lit charcoal in the beginning, no water and vents and intakes wfo.

martyleach · 05-13-2014, 11:40 PM

I've got a Chubby and have no problem getting over 300 with the water pan empty and heat diverter in. I use lump.

tom72 · 05-14-2014, 12:36 AM

I have a Party unit, and I have no problem getting the temps up to 375 or higher if I start with a full chimney of lit charcoal added to the fire pan and leave the chimney and side vents wide open for a bit. I keep the water pan filled with a mix of lava rock and foil balls, covered with a triple layer of heavy duty foil.

05-13-2014, 09:00 AM	#1
wksisnlaw Found some matches. Join Date: 03-10-14 Location: kannapolis nc	BackWoods Smoker Would like to know if anybody out there knows how to get a backwoods up to 300 degrees??? Trying to smoke some crispy chicken wings and they always come out rubbery or tough. "Need Some Help"

05-13-2014, 09:16 AM	#2
Smokesignalsfromtx is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-29-13 Location: Fort Worth, Tx	Which one? And how are you set up? Charcoal, lump, water, etc..... __________________ Backwoods Party G2, Backwoods Chubby G2, Weber OTG 22.5 (Homer series, RIP), Weber OTG 22.5, WSM 22.5, WSM 18.5, Weber Jumbo Joe, Weber Smokey Joe, Guru DX2 (X3), Insainly [B][I]Fast[/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR="Red"]RED[/COLOR][/I][/B] THERMOPEN MK4, Super, Duper [I][B]Fast[/B][/I] [COLOR=red][B][I]RED[/I][/B][/COLOR] THERMOPEN, Maverick 732,733, Weber S-330, Blackstone Flat Grill, Brinkman Electric Gourmet(X2) "The Twins" Rick
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05-13-2014, 09:16 AM	#3
Ron_L Moderator Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Wandering, but not lost Name/Nickname : Captain Ron	Which model Backwoods? I can get my Party to 300 degrees and higher by using foil balls in the water pan instead of water. __________________ "Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..." Naked Fatties Rock! PKGo X 2/PK360/Weber Q1000/Blackstone Camping Griddle/Pit Boss Pro Series 850
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05-13-2014, 09:18 AM	#4
Smokesignalsfromtx is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-29-13 Location: Fort Worth, Tx	Same here....I can do the same w water but it takes a little finagling with the startup to get it to run there. __________________ Backwoods Party G2, Backwoods Chubby G2, Weber OTG 22.5 (Homer series, RIP), Weber OTG 22.5, WSM 22.5, WSM 18.5, Weber Jumbo Joe, Weber Smokey Joe, Guru DX2 (X3), Insainly [B][I]Fast[/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR="Red"]RED[/COLOR][/I][/B] THERMOPEN MK4, Super, Duper [I][B]Fast[/B][/I] [COLOR=red][B][I]RED[/I][/B][/COLOR] THERMOPEN, Maverick 732,733, Weber S-330, Blackstone Flat Grill, Brinkman Electric Gourmet(X2) "The Twins" Rick
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05-13-2014, 09:18 AM	#5
Dabaras On the road to being a farker Join Date: 08-29-13 Location: McKinney, TX	The simplest way is no water. __________________ Backwoods Extended Smoker, Chargriller Kamado aka Akorn, Green Mountain Jim Bowie, Purple Thermapen
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05-13-2014, 09:22 AM	#6
wksisnlaw Found some matches. Join Date: 03-10-14 Location: kannapolis nc	I have the party g2, i have tried it with and without water, with the water pan removed - the diverter still in place and again with the diverter removed and empty water pan in place. Foil Balls ???? can you enlighten me a little more on this subject. and wow thanx for the quick response.

05-13-2014, 09:29 AM	#7
wksisnlaw Found some matches. Join Date: 03-10-14 Location: kannapolis nc	charcoal

05-13-2014, 09:30 AM	#8
Smokesignalsfromtx is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-29-13 Location: Fort Worth, Tx	I have the party g2 as well. You should have no problem getting it up there with no water. What are you using for fuel? Lump runs hotter. Also, what are your startup procedures? If I'm running a hotter cook I start out with a hotter fire. __________________ Backwoods Party G2, Backwoods Chubby G2, Weber OTG 22.5 (Homer series, RIP), Weber OTG 22.5, WSM 22.5, WSM 18.5, Weber Jumbo Joe, Weber Smokey Joe, Guru DX2 (X3), Insainly [B][I]Fast[/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR="Red"]RED[/COLOR][/I][/B] THERMOPEN MK4, Super, Duper [I][B]Fast[/B][/I] [COLOR=red][B][I]RED[/I][/B][/COLOR] THERMOPEN, Maverick 732,733, Weber S-330, Blackstone Flat Grill, Brinkman Electric Gourmet(X2) "The Twins" Rick
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05-13-2014, 09:42 AM	#10
garzanium Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 01-13-13 Location: Central Tx	I'm running a fat boy and a home build competitor clone. I add lime half a gallon water at around 200, all vents wide open, let it climb to around 320, then tune vents according to if I want to climb to 350 or stay 300-320 then add rest of water Usually do 10lb or so kingsford, a full chimney, and 4 large or so 6 inch pieces of oak...takes about 1.5 hrs for thin blue smoke to start roaring __________________ Backwoods Fatboy-profile for cart build link,Weber OTG,Weber Smokey Joe, Maverick 732,Tan Thermapen
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05-13-2014, 03:30 PM	#11
Goddahavit is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-18-08 Location: PA, Fleetwood	Add more lit charcoal.... __________________ Fire & Spice Catering & Competition Team [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL] Stumps Platinum 5 on a porch trailer Backyard Jambo Stump's Stretch Bubba Keg Weber WSM Old weber gasser
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05-13-2014, 07:18 PM	#12
Red Valley BBQ is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 09-28-09 Location: Oil City, PA Name/Nickname : Sean	Open your vents!!!!! __________________ Red Valley BBQ ~ Firefighting BBQ Team (retired) ~ former KCBS CBJ ~ (3) 270 Smokers ~ (2) Chargiller Akorn ~ (4) Weber Kettles ~ La Caja China ~ Oklahoma Joe Bronco Drum Smoker
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05-13-2014, 09:59 PM	#13
pjtexas1 somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 12-28-11 Location: Belton, Tx Name/Nickname : Texas Pete	I don't have a BW but my insulated cabinet smoker will get to over 400 with enough lit charcoal in the beginning, no water and vents and intakes wfo. __________________ Paul (aka Texas Pete) SF 24x36 Midnight Edition / Mak 1-Star /Abe's 48" Insulated Cabinet / 22.5 OTG / 28" BS / Jimmy with CB Roti and pizza kit / Red Box on custom cart / Char-Griller Kettle / Barrel House Cooker / Pit Boss Copperhead / Char-Griller Akorn Jr Sign Up for The 2022 Texas BBQ Brethren Fall Bash Here! ([URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12NjP4bH3uLyH6-RJnI4gSfDr0nKQ6_4cxdw_GhmrKq0/edit#gid=1935530835"]Link[/URL])
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05-13-2014, 11:40 PM	#14
martyleach Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-17-10 Location: Pleasanton, Ca	I've got a Chubby and have no problem getting over 300 with the water pan empty and heat diverter in. I use lump. __________________ XL BGE, Kamado Joe Jr, Santa Maria pit, 26" Weber custom performer, MAK One Star pellet cooker, 14.5" WSM, Jumbo Joe, WGA, Arte Flame griddle insert for the 26" Weber. Custom wooden handles for BBQ's made by Marty Leach (oh, that's me) [url]http://www.amlwoodart.com[/url]
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05-14-2014, 12:36 AM	#15
tom72 On the road to being a farker Join Date: 05-14-12 Location: Phoenix, AZ	I have a Party unit, and I have no problem getting the temps up to 375 or higher if I start with a full chimney of lit charcoal added to the fire pan and leave the chimney and side vents wide open for a bit. I keep the water pan filled with a mix of lava rock and foil balls, covered with a triple layer of heavy duty foil. __________________ Backwoods Party / Traeger Lone Star Pellet Cooker / Char-Griller Outlaw / Cob-Style Wood-Fired Pizza Oven Always remember that [COLOR=red][I]you[/I][/COLOR] are [COLOR=red]unique[/COLOR] and [COLOR=red]special[/COLOR], just like [COLOR=red][I]everybody else[/I][/COLOR]. :mrgreen:
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