Looking For A New Stick Burner

My opinion is the longer cook chamber the better.

You need to decide just how much meat you are generally going to cook.
This info will give you more choices or needs as it were.

Reverse flow seems to add length of the cook chamber by making the heat and smoke travel further and allow the smoke to have a more even temp across the grates.

It also does away with the hot zone where the fire box meets the cook box and gives you more grate cooking area.

Smaller cookers with good smoke draft lose quite a bit of space for cooking because the heat is so high coming out of the firebox that food will burn. So you must move the food away from the opening.

Steel thickness is important to maintain and keep steady temps. If it is fall/winter then thin steel will have to have more heat to keep temps.
I have used insulation around thin cook chambers to offset this issue.

Size of fire box is important to allow the use of enough wood/coal to get the temps in the cookbox.

Add in things like split wood lengths, ability to clean out ashes, dampers that are big enough and can be locked into different opening sizes.

Stacks, important both in diameter and length. Where the stack sucks up smoke- IE
grate level, top of chamber level, and some where in between should be looked at so the heat and smoke can travel across the grill evenly and with some velocity.

Good ones with these issues included in the design are not cheap.

Good luck

you get tired of your Shirley or just wanting a Bigger smoker Again.?

Time for Double reverse flow……… :heh:

https://johnsonsmokers.com/24-t-pit/

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CALWLDLIF said:

My opinion is the longer cook chamber the better.
Blah, Blah, Blah……..
Good ones with these issues included in the design are not cheap.

Good luck

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Ummmm……. Dude’s already had more Nice smokers than most people will Ever have……..

SmittyJonz said:

Time for Double reverse flow……… :heh:

https://johnsonsmokers.com/24-t-pit/

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His rolling patio looks legit. Smaller, but the compact patio seems legit as well, and at $1800....


Pits by JJ's patio reverse is at $2100 (for now), with a bit more clearance on the top shelf.


Advantage Johnson might have (over just price) is the removable baffle and charcoal grate for direct grilling inside. Double stacks are interesting (and look cool AF), but not sure the advantage, outside of maybe evening out the pull, kinda like a collector.


Big fan of the Shirley 24x36, but they're out on production right now, and at $3100 shipped for the base model, that puts me in the price range for other things that are closer, that I'm trying not to get up into.



Non-reverse, I've been looking at the LSG 20x42.

Give Dub Siegel with kcsmokerco a look. He custom built my offset and I love it. He's local here in KC.

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He's an excellent fabricator, the quality will definitely be on par with what you're used to.

Lomey said:

Give Dub Siegel with kcsmokerco a look. He custom built my offset and I love it. He's local here in KC.

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Is it the picture or is that pit really unlevel?

ruger35 said:

Is it the picture or is that pit really unlevel?

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Here is the thread for when I got it.

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New custom offset arrived today!

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I really like a lot of aspects of the workhorse. Thick steel, well designed for excellent airflow, cowboy firebox as they call it to add direct sear opt, NO tuning plates, super long fire box, easy to clean fire box door, heats consistently across majority of pit and doesn't break the bank. Also like the linseed oil finish but that's personal pref.

The only two things I don't like are as follows:

Doesn't seem to have front deployable flip up work surface. This is important to me and the side deploy doesn't work for my layout.

Second is no cooker door counterweight option. I don't know but suspect that door is heavy. I don't want the stress on my shoulder and back.

I've not reached out to them to see if either of these are off the menu options.

Get a Chud smoker or maybe a chud box

It seems like at one point they were considering some kind of counterweight system. Primitive Pits has some kind of weight and pulley approach.

FishinMusician said:

His rolling patio looks legit. Smaller, but the compact patio seems legit as well, and at $1800....


Pits by JJ's patio reverse is at $2100 (for now), with a bit more clearance on the top shelf.


Advantage Johnson might have (over just price) is the removable baffle and charcoal grate for direct grilling inside. Double stacks are interesting (and look cool AF), but not sure the advantage, outside of maybe evening out the pull, kinda like a collector.


Big fan of the Shirley 24x36, but they're out on production right now, and at $3100 shipped for the base model, that puts me in the price range for other things that are closer, that I'm trying not to get up into.



Non-reverse, I've been looking at the LSG 20x42.

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I have had a Johnson Smoker for almost 10 year - compact ultimate patio

Cooks great - the baffle tube really makes cleaning the cooking chamber easy - pull the tube out , clean the chamber, and all clean

The pit builder - Chad Johnson - is a good guy

Give the LSG's 20" series a look. They are very good stick burners and popular. Go to YouTube. The 20x36 and 20x42 are rated very high.

Pitmaker Magnum Smoker and you'll never look back...... (I had the Long Rifle, which is the same thing without the insulated firebox) I'll get the Magnum if I ever go back to stickburners.

TheHojo said:

I have had a Johnson Smoker for almost 10 year - compact ultimate patio

Cooks great - the baffle tube really makes cleaning the cooking chamber easy - pull the tube out , clean the chamber, and all clean

The pit builder - Chad Johnson - is a good guy

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Maybe you can help me out, then. I'm looking at the regular compact, not the ultimate like you have with the vertical chamber. But in your normal horizontal chamber, how well do temps hold, and how much meat can you safely cook in there? I'm leaning more toward the Pit by JJ's just because the top rack clearance (square firebox also attractive on JJ, but...), but wouldn't mind going Johnson if the top rack wasn't so skinny.

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Maybe you can help me out, then. I'm looking at the regular compact, not the ultimate like you have with the vertical chamber. But in your normal horizontal chamber, how well do temps hold, and how much meat can you safely cook in there? I'm leaning more toward the Pit by JJ's just because the top rack clearance (square firebox also attractive on JJ, but...), but wouldn't mind going Johnson if the top rack wasn't so skinny.

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It’s a good size for me - would agree the top rack is a bit skinny - but I generally just use for sausage and chicken

I have had good luck with mine - keeps good temps and has turned out some good q

Any other questions you have please ask away