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Old 01-14-2018, 10:14 AM   #16
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Old 01-21-2018, 01:14 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by One Drop View Post
Not allowed to use natural to describe things in the EU, it is meaningless. Can't use Superfoods and other nonsense like that, either. The FDA is a joke, unfortunately, they mainly serve only the interests of the industry, often at the expense of the consumer.
True, we have been indoctrinated with cheap products by corporate greed, but the American consumer has to also share some blame as well. If we didn't buy it, they wouldn't try to sell it.

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I saw a taste test on one of the cooking shows.88% of the tasters picked pancake/waffle syrup as being authentic maple syrup over REAL maple syrup.
Originally Posted by medic92 View Post
I had never had real maple syrup until a few years ago. I'm too indoctrinated into the other stuff, I didn't like it. Sad really.
Originally Posted by smoke ninja View Post
Kinda like how people like sweet baby rays over actual good bbq sauce?
There are certain foods like pancake syrup, ketchup, and bbq sauce that industrial food manufacturing companies have refined with precision. They become so similar and so popular over generations that they are hardwired into our subconsciousness mind as the definition of that product.

Even though these products are far from the real original food products, we welcome then simply because that is what we have become accustomed to. They seem like comforting tastes to us, not because they are the best product possible, but because they are consistent and familiar to us starting from our youth.

Subsequently we are manipulated by the commercial food industry by what they want to sell us, and not what we really want to buy.

Originally Posted by SmoothBoarBBQ View Post
Honey falls into this same kind of scheme where even if it says "100% pure honey" it's not honey. Most honey you find in the grocery stores is high fructose corn syrup flavored to taste like honey.

As indicated above; some prefer the artificially flavored maple syrup, sweet bbq sauce made with corn syrup, artificial honey, not necessarily because they are better, but because it is something we grew up with, and have now come to expect the taste of this product. We have been indoctrinated to expect the "sticky-sweet" products through the controlled availability of products on the grocery store shelves.
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Old 01-21-2018, 01:23 PM   #18
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All true.
We are a country of food robots. Marketing tells us what to eat, and (similar) foods from our childhood bring us some level of comfort.

As a seasoning manufacture, we have very few limits on what we can say in our marketing.
We can’t promise some miraculous cures and we can’t lie about our ingredients (all though we can omit things we deem “secret” and lump stuff in the spices umbrella) or lie about weights and measures.
Other than that, it is fair game.

One of our own personal grievances is the “spices” umbrella so many mfgs. use.
This is due to my wife’s allergies.

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