Pit Barrel Cooker (PBC) Appreciation Thread - Page 451

Norm · 07-10-2017, 11:42 AM

Oh that would have cost them a sale if I'd known that when I bought mine...

CeramicChef · 07-10-2017, 12:01 PM

I'm not trying to be a smart Alec or start a fight, but why is it disappointing that PBC isn't manufactured here in the US?

Is the diamond on your wife's left hand manufactured here in America? Most likely it was dug up in Africa, went through Amsterdam to be graded and cut, sent to deBeers in London, mounted in some jewelry shop in NYC, and then sent to whatever store you bought it in. Did that make any difference to you when you and your Bride-to-be decided on it and you plunked down the money?

Anyone here work for a foreign chartered company? I bet you have the cash put in the bank every payday and I bet your 401(k) sponsored by the company consists of a,lot of company stock.

I buy products that best serve my need at the best possible price. I'm a value shopper. Seems to me that the PBC is a great value no matter where it's manufactured. The money stays here in the US according to the email quoted.

ssv3 · 07-10-2017, 12:32 PM

At the end of the day it's about dollars and sense. We all know that Noah got screwed a couple years ago when he tried to manufacture them here in Cali. Maybe he got fed up and just outsourced them.

On the bright side I'm now an owner of the "Made in USA" PBC

With the horseshoe stand.

Mrshaunyd · 07-10-2017, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CeramicChef

I'm not trying to be a smart Alec or start a fight, but why is it disappointing that PBC isn't manufactured here in the US?

Is the diamond on your wife's left hand manufactured here in America? Most likely it was dug up in Africa, went through Amsterdam to be graded and cut, sent to deBeers in London, mounted in some jewelry shop in NYC, and then sent to whatever store you bought it in. Did that make any difference to you when you and your Bride-to-be decided on it and you plunked down the money?

Anyone here work for a foreign chartered company? I bet you have the cash put in the bank every payday and I bet your 401(k) sponsored by the company consists of a,lot of company stock.

I buy products that best serve my need at the best possible price. I'm a value shopper. Seems to me that the PBC is a great value no matter where it's manufactured. The money stays here in the US according to the email quoted.

What do you have against american made items?

Mrshaunyd · 07-10-2017, 12:39 PM

And to why its dissapointing was just because it has always been my understanding it was american made. I still said it was a solid cooker, and im not running out to send it back.

AClarke44 · 07-10-2017, 12:49 PM

Ok folks, yes it's disappointing but let's not get too twisted up about it. Hopefully the new PBC's are of the same quality. That would be my main concern. It's hard to find a cooker these days that is made in the USA. Even some of weber's products are manufactured in other countries. Let's not forget that we are still supporting an American veteran. Honestly that is more important to me than where the cooker is made. I served in the Air Force (retired) though so I may feel different about that support than so of you and thats ok......
PBC is basically a small family owned business. I've spoken to Noah a few times (as have many of you) and I can assure you he didn't make the change without thinking long and hard about it. I'm sure if and when it becomes more feesable and cost effective to make them in the USA again he will!

talls6 · 07-10-2017, 12:53 PM

So I did my 4th cook in 8 days yesterday. Decided to try a Chuck roast as they were on sale at the local Store. It was 2.83 Lbs, I sprinkled with PBC's Beef and Game rub, Hooked into the PBC for 2.5 hrs, pulled at 160 degrees, foiled with a bit of beef broth and then on until it hit 195. Wrapped in a towel and put in a cooler for about 40 minutes while the Potatoes finished. I felt it was a bit salty, which might have been from the broth. Flavor was good and it stayed pretty juicy, but not as much as I had hoped for. Considering it was my first attempt at Beef at anytime in my smoking career I will consider it a success. I did have a dip in the barrel temp (down to 245) about 3 hours in. I cracked the lid and it shot back up to 310 and held for the rest of the cook. As always comments and reviews are welcome.
Darren

Mrshaunyd · 07-10-2017, 12:54 PM

On another note definately need the foldout grate and the hanger, this week so i can do ribs and asparagus

CeramicChef · 07-10-2017, 01:14 PM

talls6 - now that BBQ done right! Very nicely done. Kudos to ya.

talls6 · 07-10-2017, 03:21 PM

Thanks CeramicChef. Still trying to learn a few things, but at least my wife is enjoying my practice.

jjjonz · 07-10-2017, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrshaunyd

I actually just got an email back from sales that these are no longer made in the USA which is a bit dissapointing. That said my first cook went great.

Please say it an't so !!!!

talls6 · 07-11-2017, 09:05 AM

Ok everyone, In my flurry of cooks these past 10 days, my neighbor has decided that I am the worlds best smoker/cooker. He said he has a "huge" brisket that he didn't know what to do with and decided that I should cook it on my PBC. Well found out the huge brisket is around 5lbs. My question is for you veterans, is how long should I anticipate for this cook? I know every piece of meat cooks differently so a general ballpark will be fine.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can give to me on time or other tips. I need to keep up my new found reputation......
Darren

fleihr · 07-11-2017, 10:10 AM

talls that is a sexy smoke ring on that meat

Stlsportster · 07-11-2017, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talls6

Ok everyone, In my flurry of cooks these past 10 days, my neighbor has decided that I am the worlds best smoker/cooker. He said he has a "huge" brisket that he didn't know what to do with and decided that I should cook it on my PBC. Well found out the huge brisket is around 5lbs. My question is for you veterans, is how long should I anticipate for this cook? I know every piece of meat cooks differently so a general ballpark will be fine.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can give to me on time or other tips. I need to keep up my new found reputation......
Darren

Lots of variables. Generally the wisdom says if you smoke at 225, unwrapped, it's 1.5 hours/lb.

As the PBC cooks hotter and most people on this site suggest wrapping with butcher paper...I would smoke unwrapped for about 2-3 hours...until it hits an internal temp of 160 or so(entering the stall) then wrap in butcher paper...won't take long after that to probe tender...maybe an hour. Just make sure you use time as a guideline. Probe tender in the thickest part means it's done.

Let it rest in a cooler for an hour before you slice.

Kikaida · 07-11-2017, 11:23 AM

I know there's a lot of people ready to defend PBC at the drop of a hat. Simple question...Would you trade your U.S. built PBC for a "Made in China" one? Then how can you expect potential owners not to be disappointed? For sure rethinking this purchase. Would love for PBC to chime in here. You out there? Would much rather have a made in Mexico one....and maybe that's the case?
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You just need to look at a modern Craftsman tool box and the cheap flimsy metal...now compare it to your dads Craftsman took box that was made in America. Outsourcing is typically good for the company but usually bad for the consumer. Rooting for ya, PBC...honest feedback like this will hopefully factor into your future success.

07-10-2017, 12:01 PM	#6752
CeramicChef Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 01-10-13 Location: Oklahoma City, OK	I'm not trying to be a smart Alec or start a fight, but why is it disappointing that PBC isn't manufactured here in the US? Is the diamond on your wife's left hand manufactured here in America? Most likely it was dug up in Africa, went through Amsterdam to be graded and cut, sent to deBeers in London, mounted in some jewelry shop in NYC, and then sent to whatever store you bought it in. Did that make any difference to you when you and your Bride-to-be decided on it and you plunked down the money? Anyone here work for a foreign chartered company? I bet you have the cash put in the bank every payday and I bet your 401(k) sponsored by the company consists of a,lot of company stock. I buy products that best serve my need at the best possible price. I'm a value shopper. Seems to me that the PBC is a great value no matter where it's manufactured. The money stays here in the US according to the email quoted. __________________ Wholly Smoke! Here's to great cooks and even better memories with family and friends!

07-10-2017, 12:32 PM	#6753
ssv3 somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-25-12 Location: Los Angeles Name/Nickname : Sako	At the end of the day it's about dollars and sense. We all know that Noah got screwed a couple years ago when he tried to manufacture them here in Cali. Maybe he got fed up and just outsourced them. On the bright side I'm now an owner of the "Made in USA" PBC With the horseshoe stand. __________________ LSG 24x30 V/O Yoder YS640 DCS 36 Gasser Blackstone Griddle Retrofit Blackstone Pizza Oven WSJ(K) WGA(P) WJJ(CU) W22(BI) W26(CL) Pit Barrer Junior Kingsford Oval (resto mod)

07-10-2017, 12:39 PM	#6755
Mrshaunyd Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 05-15-16 Location: Michigan	And to why its dissapointing was just because it has always been my understanding it was american made. I still said it was a solid cooker, and im not running out to send it back. __________________ Capt'n Flaskies BBQ Team/Traeger Jr Elite Pellet Pooper, New PBC, Abes Smoker aka big red.

07-10-2017, 12:49 PM	#6756
AClarke44 Babbling Farker Join Date: 05-14-14 Location: Yukon, OK Name/Nickname : Andrew	Ok folks, yes it's disappointing but let's not get too twisted up about it. Hopefully the new PBC's are of the same quality. That would be my main concern. It's hard to find a cooker these days that is made in the USA. Even some of weber's products are manufactured in other countries. Let's not forget that we are still supporting an American veteran. Honestly that is more important to me than where the cooker is made. I served in the Air Force (retired) though so I may feel different about that support than so of you and thats ok...... PBC is basically a small family owned business. I've spoken to Noah a few times (as have many of you) and I can assure you he didn't make the change without thinking long and hard about it. I'm sure if and when it becomes more feesable and cost effective to make them in the USA again he will! __________________ My cooker fleet: Recteq RT-700 Weber Spirit E-210 with GrillGrates 22.5 Crimson Weber Premium Char-Broil Big Easy Oil-Less Turker Fryer LoCo 80qt crawfish kit Re-homed cookers: Black Weber OTG (Happy Hapgood) Pit Barrel Cooker (PBC) Char-griller Akorn 28” Blackstone Pro Series Oklahoma Joe’s Bronco Check out the PBC Appreciation Thread! [url]http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210239[/url]

07-10-2017, 12:54 PM	#6758
Mrshaunyd Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 05-15-16 Location: Michigan	On another note definately need the foldout grate and the hanger, this week so i can do ribs and asparagus __________________ Capt'n Flaskies BBQ Team/Traeger Jr Elite Pellet Pooper, New PBC, Abes Smoker aka big red.

07-10-2017, 11:42 AM	#6751
Norm Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 02-22-10 Location: USA Name/Nickname : Private	Oh that would have cost them a sale if I'd known that when I bought mine...

07-10-2017, 01:14 PM	#6759
CeramicChef Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 01-10-13 Location: Oklahoma City, OK	talls6 - now that BBQ done right! Very nicely done. Kudos to ya. __________________ Wholly Smoke! Here's to great cooks and even better memories with family and friends!

07-10-2017, 03:21 PM	#6760
talls6 Is lookin for wood to cook with. Join Date: 05-25-17 Location: Waconia, MN	Thanks CeramicChef. Still trying to learn a few things, but at least my wife is enjoying my practice.

07-11-2017, 09:05 AM	#6762
talls6 Is lookin for wood to cook with. Join Date: 05-25-17 Location: Waconia, MN	Ok everyone, In my flurry of cooks these past 10 days, my neighbor has decided that I am the worlds best smoker/cooker. He said he has a "huge" brisket that he didn't know what to do with and decided that I should cook it on my PBC. Well found out the huge brisket is around 5lbs. My question is for you veterans, is how long should I anticipate for this cook? I know every piece of meat cooks differently so a general ballpark will be fine. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give to me on time or other tips. I need to keep up my new found reputation...... Darren

07-11-2017, 10:10 AM	#6763
fleihr On the road to being a farker Join Date: 06-14-16 Location: Detroit, Michigan	talls that is a sexy smoke ring on that meat __________________ Rec-Tec Mini, Pit Barrel Cooker, Weber 22 in Kettle Premium

07-11-2017, 11:23 AM	#6765
Kikaida On the road to being a farker Join Date: 05-30-17 Location: Valencia, CA	I know there's a lot of people ready to defend PBC at the drop of a hat. Simple question...Would you trade your U.S. built PBC for a "Made in China" one? Then how can you expect potential owners not to be disappointed? For sure rethinking this purchase. Would love for PBC to chime in here. You out there? Would much rather have a made in Mexico one....and maybe that's the case? - You just need to look at a modern Craftsman tool box and the cheap flimsy metal...now compare it to your dads Craftsman took box that was made in America. Outsourcing is typically good for the company but usually bad for the consumer. Rooting for ya, PBC...honest feedback like this will hopefully factor into your future success. __________________ Fun first...Safety second.