MMMM.. BRISKET..
The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS.  



Our Homepage Donation to Forum Overhead Welocme Merchandise Associations Purchase Subscription Amazon Affiliate
Go Back   The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS. > Discussion Area > Catering, Food Handling and Awareness > Catering, Vending and Cooking For The Masses.

Notices

Catering, Vending and Cooking For The Masses. this forum is OnTopic. A resource to help with catering, vending and just cooking for large parties. Topics to include Getting Started, Ethics, Marketing, Catering resources, Formulas and recipes for cooking for large groups.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-09-2019, 06:58 AM   #1
Wood Fire Steel
Full Fledged Farker
 
Join Date: 04-14-15
Location: Rome ga
Default Catering cost

I typically to not sell bbq, but have been approached by an coworker wanting to retain me for his 50th birthday celebration. He has asked how much per head would I charge. He wants the basics of pulled pork and a couple sides. My thoughts are pulled pork, pulled chicken, beans and Mac and cheese. I would be supplying only and not catering the event. Any thoughts on price per head?
__________________
Shirley Fab 24x65 cabinet with extended warmer
Wood Fire Steel is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 07-09-2019, 08:08 AM   #2
SmoothBoarBBQ
is One Chatty Farker
 
Join Date: 02-25-17
Location: Killeen, TX
Name/Nickname : Donnie
Default

General rule is to triple your food costs. Are you providing buns, sauces, plasticware, plates, cups, drinks? Add it all up, triple the cost, and that's a pretty fair price for all parties involved.

For 2 meats and 2 sides (about 1/4Lb portions of everything) I would be doing $12 per head. If this person is a friend you would still probably make a little money at $10 per head.

I'm sure tons of people will swarm this thread talking about liability issues, and with this litigious world it's a big concern. Especially so when you're talking a 50th birthday party as the guests will tend be on the older side and are generally a higher risk of having serious health risks if there is some kind of food poisoning issue. Obviously you'll have to decide whether or not the risk is worth the nominal amount of money you'll make.

Either way good luck!
__________________
Weber Kettle, Johnson Smokers Med 6', Cotton Gin "Harvester" UDS
SmoothBoarBBQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks from:--->
Old 07-09-2019, 08:57 AM   #3
pharp
Banned

 
Join Date: 04-11-16
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothBoarBBQ View Post
General rule is to triple your food costs. Are you providing buns, sauces, plasticware, plates, cups, drinks? Add it all up, triple the cost, and that's a pretty fair price for all parties involved.

For 2 meats and 2 sides (about 1/4Lb portions of everything) I would be doing $12 per head. If this person is a friend you would still probably make a little money at $10 per head.

I'm sure tons of people will swarm this thread talking about liability issues, and with this litigious world it's a big concern. Especially so when you're talking a 50th birthday party as the guests will tend be on the older side and are generally a higher risk of having serious health risks if there is some kind of food poisoning issue. Obviously you'll have to decide whether or not the risk is worth the nominal amount of money you'll make.

Either way good luck!
Was going to type basically the exact same thing. Good advice on both points.
pharp is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks from:--->
Old 07-09-2019, 09:05 AM   #4
Sickboy579
On the road to being a farker

 
Join Date: 04-02-18
Location: Buffalo, NY
Name/Nickname : Ed
Default

I don’t know if it’ll hold up legally but I do private parties like that.... I don’t charge them.... but somehow walk away with a predetermined tip of sorts.
__________________
Mc sq-36, mc Ts120p
Sickboy579 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2019, 09:31 AM   #5
InThePitBBQ
is One Chatty Farker
 
Join Date: 01-31-19
Location: South Bend, IN
Name/Nickname : Bob
Default

You guys illegally preparing and selling food need your common sense calibrated, the county fines and personal liabilities the courts will levy on you when an opportunist cashes in on every asset you own now and every dollar you make in the future being chased by court judgments will ruin your lives and family.
__________________
Shirley Fabrication 24 X 70 elevated straight back "Fire for Effect"
InThePitBBQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks from: --->
Old 07-09-2019, 10:00 AM   #6
Taylormade
Full Fledged Farker

 
Join Date: 04-13-17
Location: Tampa, FL
Name/Nickname : Scott
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InThePitBBQ View Post
You guys illegally preparing and selling food need your common sense calibrated, the county fines and personal liabilities the courts will levy on you when an opportunist cashes in on every asset you own now and every dollar you make in the future being chased by court judgments will ruin your lives and family.
This is why, when I started out vending, I'd only charge them for reimbursement of the food and not make a penny. I bought everything at RD and would hand them the receipt. It allowed me to hone my skills cooking for the masses and I'd just tell whomever was asking that I'd cook it for free as my gift to them.

That was many moons ago now though, so if I were in the same situation, I don't know what I'd do.
__________________
Custom Trailer Gator Pit, 2448 Patio Gator Pit, Egg, Blackstone Griddle & Oven, Jenn-Air Gas
Taylormade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2019, 10:08 AM   #7
InThePitBBQ
is One Chatty Farker
 
Join Date: 01-31-19
Location: South Bend, IN
Name/Nickname : Bob
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taylormade View Post
This is why, when I started out vending, I'd only charge them for reimbursement of the food and not make a penny. I bought everything at RD and would hand them the receipt. It allowed me to hone my skills cooking for the masses and I'd just tell whomever was asking that I'd cook it for free as my gift to them.

That was many moons ago now though, so if I were in the same situation, I don't know what I'd do.
In 99% of most counties in the US you broke the law after the first penny changed hands unless the event qualified under old cottage type laws that are more or less history at this point.

Guys, you are personally liable for engaging in these activities and I see some Shirley owners here in the thread which tells me you aren't the average member of the go be poor somewhere else crowd and likely have plenty to lose.

There's two things you never want to cross in life, a game warden and a public health enforcement inspector they will destroy you purely for the sport of having done it.
__________________
Shirley Fabrication 24 X 70 elevated straight back "Fire for Effect"
InThePitBBQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks from: --->
Old 07-09-2019, 10:45 AM   #8
Taylormade
Full Fledged Farker

 
Join Date: 04-13-17
Location: Tampa, FL
Name/Nickname : Scott
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InThePitBBQ View Post
In 99% of most counties in the US you broke the law after the first penny changed hands unless the event qualified under old cottage type laws that are more or less history at this point.
Yeah, I should have mentioned that these weren't "client" cooks, rather cooking for friends parties. Once I knew I wanted to do it, I went legal. I agree with every cautionary tale you've told on this site.
__________________
Custom Trailer Gator Pit, 2448 Patio Gator Pit, Egg, Blackstone Griddle & Oven, Jenn-Air Gas
Taylormade is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks from: --->
Old 07-09-2019, 01:11 PM   #9
ynotfehc
Full Fledged Farker
 
Join Date: 07-03-13
Location: St Paul, MN
Default

"Typical pricing of triple the cost" is because those of us that do this for a living have other costs involved: licensing, permits, accountants, lawyers, taxes, rent, equipment maintenance, paper products, cleaning supplies,utilities, payroll taxes, fuel costs, etc, so that at the end of the day we hope for 10-15% profit. So for those that do this on the side, what I need to charge to feed my family and pay the mortgage and you are able to charge is COMPLETELY different and really not comparable.
ynotfehc is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks from:--->
Old 07-09-2019, 02:34 PM   #10
pharp
Banned

 
Join Date: 04-11-16
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ynotfehc View Post
"Typical pricing of triple the cost" is because those of us that do this for a living have other costs involved: licensing, permits, accountants, lawyers, taxes, rent, equipment maintenance, paper products, cleaning supplies,utilities, payroll taxes, fuel costs, etc, so that at the end of the day we hope for 10-15% profit. So for those that do this on the side, what I need to charge to feed my family and pay the mortgage and you are able to charge is COMPLETELY different and really not comparable.
I find it to still be relatively accurate. We cater on an on-demand basis (legally) and while a restaurant or full time food truck would have much higher costs, there are other things that cost me way more. First and foremost is meat. Second, buying anything in small batches is way more expensive. And third is time. If I do a 250 person wedding that is two full days of my time that would normally be spent doing something else (instead of just adding more product to an already running smoker). Not trying to argue, but just making the point that the 3x cost does not go as far as you think for the part-time small guys.
pharp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 07:32 PM   #11
ynotfehc
Full Fledged Farker
 
Join Date: 07-03-13
Location: St Paul, MN
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharp View Post
I find it to still be relatively accurate. We cater on an on-demand basis (legally) and while a restaurant or full time food truck would have much higher costs, there are other things that cost me way more. First and foremost is meat. Second, buying anything in small batches is way more expensive. And third is time. If I do a 250 person wedding that is two full days of my time that would normally be spent doing something else (instead of just adding more product to an already running smoker). Not trying to argue, but just making the point that the 3x cost does not go as far as you think for the part-time small guys.
I don't see you arguing at all. Whether lithe operation is small or large isn't the concern. Somebody that is simply doing a favor for a neighbor or a buddy once a year is completely different than you, me or even Famous Dave's. That person doesn't have the same types of expenses. It's product cost and time.
ynotfehc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Forum Custom Search: Enter your Search text below. GOOGLE will search ONLY the BBQ Brethren Forum.
Custom search MAY not work(no display box) in some configurations of Internet Explorer. Please use compliant version of Firefox or Chrome.







All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
2003 -2012 © BBQ-Brethren Inc. All rights reserved. All Content and Flaming Pig Logo are registered and protected under U.S and International Copyright and Trademarks. Content Within this Website Is Property of BBQ Brethren Inc. Reproduction or alteration is strictly prohibited.
no new posts