Riviting items to my uds

Blythewood BBQ'er · 03-25-2018, 11:15 PM

Can't seem to get to sleep tonight so thinking about smokers and bbq as usual. I am going to add tube intakes to my drum and was wondering if the aluminum rivits would cause an issue. Should be food safe since alot of beverages come in aluminum, but was wondering if there would be a temp issue?

What say ye Brethren o' mine?!

Czarbecue · 03-25-2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blythewood BBQ'er

Can't seem to get to sleep tonight so thinking about smokers and bbq as usual. I am going to add tube intakes to my drum and was wondering if the aluminum rivits would cause an issue. Should be food safe since alot of beverages come in aluminum, but was wondering if there would be a temp issue?

What say ye Brethren o' mine?!

It was brought to my attention that aluminum as a metal melts at 550F.

Blythewood BBQ'er · 03-25-2018, 11:24 PM

Cool wasn't sure of its melting point. That was my concern. I'll just bolt them on! Always look for reasons to by new tool. Thanks man.

guero_gordo · 03-25-2018, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Czarbecue

It was brought to my attention that aluminum as a metal melts at 550F.

Listed at 660C, which is 1220F

Czarbecue · 03-26-2018, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by guero_gordo

Listed at 660C, which is 1220F

Well damn, I had no issues extending my charcoal ring then. This was in the UDS thread.

Shagbark · 03-26-2018, 03:16 AM

Aluminum rivits are easy to work with and should be plenty strong for what you are doing. I prefer stainless rivits although if using a hand tool it will take quite a bit more strength to squeeze it.

ebijack · 03-26-2018, 04:08 AM

The aluminum rivets should/will work w/o problem. Some brand cabinet smokers are aluminum riveted inside and out.

Smilerb · 03-26-2018, 06:12 AM

Just use stainless steel rivets, as Shagbark has mentioned

Gavin

thunderalley3 · 03-26-2018, 07:08 AM

I would vote for stainless also, higher melting point and from my experience they seem to hold the clamp load better.

kingjman · 03-26-2018, 08:49 AM

Stainless +1

kls44 · 03-26-2018, 08:57 AM

Don't use aluminum, it can cause a corrosive reaction(can't recall the term) when dissimilar metals are in contact with each other.

Shagbark · 03-26-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kls44

Don't use aluminum, it can cause a corrosive reaction(can't recall the term) when dissimilar metals are in contact with each other.

Electrolysis? ?

You’re right aluminum doesn’t play well with other metals and in some cases it doesn’t even get along with itself. In a smoker where it will probably get a good coating of grease I don’t believe it will be an issue. Contact with air and moisture seem to be the key ingredients for the corrosion to occur. Aluminum and steel usually isn’t a problem. Aluminum and brass will eat each other up in a very short time.

With aluminum electrical wiring a paste is used to prevent corrosion at the connection.

Blythewood BBQ'er · 03-26-2018, 11:29 AM

Man I didn't even think about galvanic corrosion! Thanks for reminding me! Stainless it is! Thanks again fellas for all the replies!

airedale · 03-26-2018, 11:34 AM

I wouldn't spend the money for stainless unless I already had them in my shop. Plain steel will work just fine and that is what your UDS is made out of anyway. Stainless UDS?!!? Then stainless rivets.

JWACKS · 03-26-2018, 01:12 PM

Even when my temps get away from me, I've never managed to melt any aluminum foil...

03-25-2018, 11:15 PM	#1
Blythewood BBQ'er Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-17-13 Location: Blythewood, SC Name/Nickname : Dennis	Riviting items to my uds Can't seem to get to sleep tonight so thinking about smokers and bbq as usual. I am going to add tube intakes to my drum and was wondering if the aluminum rivits would cause an issue. Should be food safe since alot of beverages come in aluminum, but was wondering if there would be a temp issue? What say ye Brethren o' mine?! __________________ BUBBA GRILLS 250r, CharGriller Akorn, 1.5 uds, 28in Blackstone, Blackstone Tailgater, Weber Mastertouch Slate Blue, Weber Copper Performer Premium, Weber 26er, Weber Jumbo Joe, and a set of Octoforks! GOOD FOOD GOOD TIMES AND GOOD FRIENDS CAN BE FOUND HERE!! THE BBQ BRETHREN BASHES! [URL]http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8[/URL]

03-25-2018, 11:24 PM	#3
Blythewood BBQ'er Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-17-13 Location: Blythewood, SC Name/Nickname : Dennis	Cool wasn't sure of its melting point. That was my concern. I'll just bolt them on! Always look for reasons to by new tool. Thanks man. __________________ BUBBA GRILLS 250r, CharGriller Akorn, 1.5 uds, 28in Blackstone, Blackstone Tailgater, Weber Mastertouch Slate Blue, Weber Copper Performer Premium, Weber 26er, Weber Jumbo Joe, and a set of Octoforks! GOOD FOOD GOOD TIMES AND GOOD FRIENDS CAN BE FOUND HERE!! THE BBQ BRETHREN BASHES! [URL]http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8[/URL]

03-26-2018, 03:16 AM	#6
Shagbark On the road to being a farker Join Date: 10-06-17 Location: Pennsylvania	Aluminum rivits are easy to work with and should be plenty strong for what you are doing. I prefer stainless rivits although if using a hand tool it will take quite a bit more strength to squeeze it.
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03-26-2018, 04:08 AM	#7
ebijack Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-23-13 Location: Detroit Mi Name/Nickname : tom	The aluminum rivets should/will work w/o problem. Some brand cabinet smokers are aluminum riveted inside and out.
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03-26-2018, 06:12 AM	#8
Smilerb Got Wood. Join Date: 12-26-16 Location: Cambridge UK	Just use stainless steel rivets, as Shagbark has mentioned Gavin
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03-26-2018, 07:08 AM	#9
thunderalley3 Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 11-20-12 Location: Daytona Beach, Florida	I would vote for stainless also, higher melting point and from my experience they seem to hold the clamp load better.
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03-26-2018, 08:49 AM	#10
kingjman Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 10-29-17 Location: Ham Lake, MN	Stainless +1
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03-26-2018, 08:57 AM	#11
kls44 is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-08-14 Location: Pensacola, FL Name/Nickname : Ken	Don't use aluminum, it can cause a corrosive reaction(can't recall the term) when dissimilar metals are in contact with each other. __________________ Weber Performer w/gas ignition and rotis; Weber 22"kettle; Weber Q300; UDS; Mini-WSM(SJS); Blackstone 28"; Big Easy
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03-26-2018, 11:29 AM	#13
Blythewood BBQ'er Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-17-13 Location: Blythewood, SC Name/Nickname : Dennis	Man I didn't even think about galvanic corrosion! Thanks for reminding me! Stainless it is! Thanks again fellas for all the replies! __________________ BUBBA GRILLS 250r, CharGriller Akorn, 1.5 uds, 28in Blackstone, Blackstone Tailgater, Weber Mastertouch Slate Blue, Weber Copper Performer Premium, Weber 26er, Weber Jumbo Joe, and a set of Octoforks! GOOD FOOD GOOD TIMES AND GOOD FRIENDS CAN BE FOUND HERE!! THE BBQ BRETHREN BASHES! [URL]http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8[/URL]

03-26-2018, 11:34 AM	#14
airedale is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 10-19-15 Location: City, MN	I wouldn't spend the money for stainless unless I already had them in my shop. Plain steel will work just fine and that is what your UDS is made out of anyway. Stainless UDS?!!? Then stainless rivets.
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03-26-2018, 01:12 PM	#15
JWACKS On the road to being a farker Join Date: 10-01-15 Location: central IL	Even when my temps get away from me, I've never managed to melt any aluminum foil... __________________ team Oui Oui Oui BBQ
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