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Old 11-14-2018, 01:50 PM   #16
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:52 PM   #17
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that looks delish
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Old 11-14-2018, 08:17 PM   #18
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Just did 40 pounds last weekend. I really prefer butt more as their isn’t enounf fat in the picnic to give it much flavor. This is one cut that could use an injection if you had some.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:42 PM   #19
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Can't you buy a cured picnic ham at a grocery store where you live? I live in PA and we have plenty of cured Picnic hams whole or spiral. They are even on sale right now for .049/lb.
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Old 11-15-2018, 02:49 PM   #20
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I'm still not sure if you actually want cured picnic or a fresh/green picnic.

An uncured picnic is nothing more than the bottom half of a whole shoulder with the butt being the top half. If this is what you have, and want to slice it, then I would suggest cooking it between 180-190*. 185 tends to be a pretty good slicing temp.

For a pre-packaged, pre-smoked "ham"...all you need to do is heat it to 140*. So there's that.
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:31 PM   #21
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what yall say? smoke at 225 until it reaches internal of 160 and then wrap and take off at 190?


Ummmm

No such thing as an uncured picnic “ham”

Ham means cured pork. Normally the rear leg/thigh

The picnic cut is part of the shoulder, just like a Boston Butt.
Cook it the same way
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:59 PM   #22
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Ummmm

No such thing as an uncured picnic “ham”

Ham means cured pork. Normally the rear leg/thigh

The picnic cut is part of the shoulder, just like a Boston Butt.
Cook it the same way
ham is the name for rear leg of a pig, cured or not. I've seen "pork picnic ham" for fresh meat at my local supermarket but that may be regional.
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We call it “Fresh Ham.” I’m actually going to pick one up from the butcher tomorrow for thanksgiving.


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ham is the name for rear leg of a pig, cured or not. I've seen "pork picnic ham" for fresh meat at my local supermarket but that may be regional.

I remember a certain President for whom I may or may not have voted used the Regional word "Nuculer", not Nuclear. That doesn't make it right.

A Ham is cured, no 2 ways about it.
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ham is the name for rear leg of a pig, cured or not. I've seen "pork picnic ham" for fresh meat at my local supermarket but that may be regional.


All my sources say otherwise.
It’s only ham if it’s cured.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ham



If the stores are calling green pork ham...then they have read too many Dr. Seuss books ;)

USDA requires uncured ham to be called “Fresh Ham”



However they do cure the picnic and sell it as a picnic ham.......

So technically you could have a ‘Fresh Picnic Ham’, but again, that would just be pork shoulder. ;)
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USDA requires uncured ham to be called “Fresh Ham”

THAT is an ABOMINATION in my view.


1. You said "Uncured Ham" [???] as opposed to fresh pork leg.
2. How in the Blue Blazes could a Ham be Fresh?


We are all over the map and need clarification.
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:15 PM   #27
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Ham equals CURED.

Doesn't apply to fresh picnics.
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fresh picnics.
GOOD.

Yes. They better NOT label a fresh picnic a HAM.


And to edit the Picnic is the full front leg, not a rear leg, so forget

hamstring references.



You know, Brethren Fatback Joe,
the Charcuterie guy near Chicago might know a thing or 2 about this, as well as his fellow Charcuterie Brethren -
just saying.....

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Old 11-15-2018, 06:37 PM   #29
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All my sources say otherwise.
It’s only ham if it’s cured.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ham



If the stores are calling green pork ham...then they have read too many Dr. Seuss books ;)

USDA requires uncured ham to be called “Fresh Ham”



However they do cure the picnic and sell it as a picnic ham.......

So technically you could have a ‘Fresh Picnic Ham’, but again, that would just be pork shoulder. ;)
from the dictionary.com you referenced

noun
1.a cut of meat from the heavy-muscled part of a hog's rear quarter, between hip and hock, usually cured.

2.that part of a hog's hind leg.

3.the part of the leg back of the knee

key terms are "usually cured"

I'll admit there's alot of cconfusion
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:54 PM   #30
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"Ham is pork from a leg cut that has been preserved by wet or dry curing, with or without smoking"

Guess it can come from either end of the pig but curing is required.



I cured this Berkshire hindquarter via Pharsty's recipe, the other end of the pig is buckboard bacon to me.
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