Western Dressing or Thousand Island?

effinUker · 07-08-2019, 05:30 PM

I'm talking about the Grinder.

I've seen them done a couple ways. (Well, more than that if you consider the sliced lunchmeat sandwich they call a Grinder out east.)

These are what I'm talking about.

1) A grilled hamburger with swiss cheese, grilled ham, lettuce, tomato, onion, and Western dressing.

2) A grilled hamburger with swiss cheese, grilled ham, lettuce, tomato, onion, and Thousand Island dressing.

Single patty or double on a longer bun - I've seen them both ways too, but I'm more looking for what you consider the proper dressing.

How do you define the Grinder?

QN · 07-08-2019, 05:47 PM

What's western dressing?

mattmountz94 · 07-08-2019, 06:18 PM

Grinder here means the entire sandwich is baked. What your describing sounds like a gizmo minus the dressing. Never heard of no western dressing

effinUker · 07-08-2019, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QN

What's western dressing?

This stuff: https://www.target.com/p/western-the...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

thirdeye · 07-08-2019, 07:21 PM

Out west..., western dressing is gravy.

chingador · 07-08-2019, 07:23 PM

Before he died, George Carlin was working on a diet dressing and was going to market as 500 islands

IamMadMan · 07-08-2019, 08:32 PM

Is There a Difference Between Hoagies, Heroes, Subs, and Grinders? by Kelli Foster
https://www.thekitchn.com/hoagies-he...h-names-222944

hoagies-vs-grinders-vs-sub-marine-sandwiches (From the Houston Press)

Grinder: I have never ever heard anyone south of the Mason-Dixon Line mention a "grinder" unless the word "nutmeg" immediately preceded it. Okay, well, that's an exaggeration, but I seriously cannot recall the last time I heard that word in Texas. The only time, in fact, I regularly encounter "grinder" is in New York and New Jersey, where it's used more often to describe a spherical sandwich that is toasted and/or contains hot ingredients such as meatballs, sliced chicken, etc.

Sub: "Sub" is pretty much ubiquitous nationwide (thanks, perhaps, to Subway), though it seems the vaguest of the three terms. There are hot subs and cold subs, subs with cold cuts (turkey), subs with hot meats (chicken parmesan), subs that are short, subs that are long.

Hoagie: More strongly associated with Italian-American culture, and in my observation used only to refer to sandwiches containing cold cuts such as ham, salami, turkey, etc. Also, when people use the term "hoagie," they most often seem to be referring to a sandwich that is at least 12 inches in length, if not longer

Some of you may also wonder why the po-boy and the gyro (hero) are not included in this meditation on sandwiches. The short answer is that I see both as more readily distinguished by their distinctive components and less tenuous links to different ethnic groups.

So, perhaps all grinders are subs but not all subs are grinders? Are hoagies and subs basically interchangeable?

https://www.houstonpress.com/restaur...wiches-6436641

Mike in Roseville · 07-09-2019, 12:12 AM

My father-in-law makes a thousand island style dressing out of mayo and ketchup. He puts it on salads, sandwiches, burgers.

Never heard of Western dressing.

frankenfab · 07-09-2019, 05:00 AM

Western is like Catalina.

effinUker · 07-09-2019, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thirdeye

Out west..., western dressing is gravy.

But what kind of gravy? Beef? Pork? Chicken? Green Chile?

Goose52 · 07-09-2019, 06:34 AM

I like western dressing on my salads; never used it as a sandwich condiment but i'm gonna have to try it now. Western salad dressing seems to be a regional thing judging by the replies here.

fwdiii · 07-09-2019, 07:33 AM

Prefer ketchup or bbq sauce.

Whisky · 07-09-2019, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by frankenfab

Western is like Catalina.

Yup, and in ND they are generally called "French" dressing by everyone, even labeled as such on salad bars and menus......Weird! Cuz I've never seen a bottle of "French" dressing in the store. We all buy Western and Catalina and still call it French.

Also in ND, the only grinder I've ever heard of is a taco grinder. Have never seen them done with burger patties.

Sickboy579 · 07-09-2019, 09:15 AM

Try a homemade Russian dressing...like thousand islands but way better.

cholloway · 07-09-2019, 09:51 AM

"Western" could mean western France.

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07-08-2019, 05:30 PM	#1
effinUker is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-11-15 Location: rockford il Name/Nickname : Tim, Moon	Western Dressing or Thousand Island? I'm talking about the Grinder. I've seen them done a couple ways. (Well, more than that if you consider the sliced lunchmeat sandwich they call a Grinder out east.) These are what I'm talking about. 1) A grilled hamburger with swiss cheese, grilled ham, lettuce, tomato, onion, and Western dressing. 2) A grilled hamburger with swiss cheese, grilled ham, lettuce, tomato, onion, and Thousand Island dressing. Single patty or double on a longer bun - I've seen them both ways too, but I'm more looking for what you consider the proper dressing. How do *you* define the Grinder?

07-08-2019, 05:47 PM	#2
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07-08-2019, 06:18 PM	#3
mattmountz94 Babbling Farker Join Date: 12-07-15 Location: Wernersville, PA	Grinder here means the entire sandwich is baked. What your describing sounds like a gizmo minus the dressing. Never heard of no western dressing __________________ Matt

07-08-2019, 07:21 PM	#5
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07-08-2019, 07:23 PM	#6
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07-08-2019, 08:32 PM	#7
IamMadMan somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-30-11 Location: Pemberton, New Jersey	Is There a Difference Between Hoagies, Heroes, Subs, and Grinders? by Kelli Foster https://www.thekitchn.com/hoagies-he...h-names-222944 hoagies-vs-grinders-vs-sub-marine-sandwiches (From the Houston Press) Grinder: I have never ever heard anyone south of the Mason-Dixon Line mention a "grinder" unless the word "nutmeg" immediately preceded it. Okay, well, that's an exaggeration, but I seriously cannot recall the last time I heard that word in Texas. The only time, in fact, I regularly encounter "grinder" is in New York and New Jersey, where it's used more often to describe a spherical sandwich that is toasted and/or contains hot ingredients such as meatballs, sliced chicken, etc. Sub: "Sub" is pretty much ubiquitous nationwide (thanks, perhaps, to Subway), though it seems the vaguest of the three terms. There are hot subs and cold subs, subs with cold cuts (turkey), subs with hot meats (chicken parmesan), subs that are short, subs that are long. Hoagie: More strongly associated with Italian-American culture, and in my observation used only to refer to sandwiches containing cold cuts such as ham, salami, turkey, etc. Also, when people use the term "hoagie," they most often seem to be referring to a sandwich that is at least 12 inches in length, if not longer Some of you may also wonder why the po-boy and the gyro (hero) are not included in this meditation on sandwiches. The short answer is that I see both as more readily distinguished by their distinctive components and less tenuous links to different ethnic groups. So, perhaps all grinders are subs but not all subs are grinders? Are hoagies and subs basically interchangeable? https://www.houstonpress.com/restaur...wiches-6436641

07-09-2019, 12:12 AM	#8
Mike in Roseville Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-31-18 Location: Location, Location. Name/Nickname : Mike	My father-in-law makes a thousand island style dressing out of mayo and ketchup. He puts it on salads, sandwiches, burgers. Never heard of Western dressing.

07-09-2019, 05:00 AM	#9
frankenfab Take a breath! Join Date: 08-23-14 Location: in the woods Name/Nickname : Franklin	Western is like Catalina. __________________ Original PK--rectangular PKGO 22.5" Weber Kettle

07-09-2019, 06:34 AM	#11
Goose52 Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 05-15-19 Location: NE WI Name/Nickname : Mark	I like western dressing on my salads; never used it as a sandwich condiment but i'm gonna have to try it now. Western salad dressing seems to be a regional thing judging by the replies here.

07-09-2019, 07:33 AM	#12
fwdiii is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 09-07-15 Location: NJ, exit 9 Name/Nickname : Fred	Prefer ketchup or bbq sauce.

07-09-2019, 09:15 AM	#14
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07-09-2019, 09:51 AM	#15
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