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Old 09-15-2021, 06:06 PM   #1
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Talking Looking For A New Stick Burner

Looking for a new stick burner and does not have to be a reverse flow but looking for something different . I like the looks of the Workhorse and wonder if yo guys can steer me with some other not so big pit builders ? Thanks
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:44 PM   #2
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My opinion is the longer cook chamber the better.

You need to decide just how much meat you are generally going to cook.
This info will give you more choices or needs as it were.

Reverse flow seems to add length of the cook chamber by making the heat and smoke travel further and allow the smoke to have a more even temp across the grates.

It also does away with the hot zone where the fire box meets the cook box and gives you more grate cooking area.

Smaller cookers with good smoke draft lose quite a bit of space for cooking because the heat is so high coming out of the firebox that food will burn. So you must move the food away from the opening.

Steel thickness is important to maintain and keep steady temps. If it is fall/winter then thin steel will have to have more heat to keep temps.
I have used insulation around thin cook chambers to offset this issue.

Size of fire box is important to allow the use of enough wood/coal to get the temps in the cookbox.

Add in things like split wood lengths, ability to clean out ashes, dampers that are big enough and can be locked into different opening sizes.

Stacks, important both in diameter and length. Where the stack sucks up smoke- IE
grate level, top of chamber level, and some where in between should be looked at so the heat and smoke can travel across the grill evenly and with some velocity.

Good ones with these issues included in the design are not cheap.

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Old 09-15-2021, 07:51 PM   #3
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you get tired of your Shirley or just wanting a Bigger smoker Again.?
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Old 09-15-2021, 09:16 PM   #4
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you get tired of your Shirley or just wanting a Bigger smoker Again.?
Just switching brands and will be awhile with wait times but you know I love trying different cookers .
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:57 PM   #5
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Time for Double reverse flow………

https://johnsonsmokers.com/24-t-pit/

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Old 09-16-2021, 12:01 AM   #6
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My opinion is the longer cook chamber the better.
Blah, Blah, Blah……..
Good ones with these issues included in the design are not cheap.

Good luck
Ummmm……. Dude’s already had more Nice smokers than most people will Ever have……..
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Old 09-16-2021, 09:51 AM   #7
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Time for Double reverse flow………

https://johnsonsmokers.com/24-t-pit/

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His rolling patio looks legit. Smaller, but the compact patio seems legit as well, and at $1800....


Pits by JJ's patio reverse is at $2100 (for now), with a bit more clearance on the top shelf.


Advantage Johnson might have (over just price) is the removable baffle and charcoal grate for direct grilling inside. Double stacks are interesting (and look cool AF), but not sure the advantage, outside of maybe evening out the pull, kinda like a collector.


Big fan of the Shirley 24x36, but they're out on production right now, and at $3100 shipped for the base model, that puts me in the price range for other things that are closer, that I'm trying not to get up into.



Non-reverse, I've been looking at the LSG 20x42.

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Old 09-16-2021, 01:50 PM   #8
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Give Dub Siegel with kcsmokerco a look. He custom built my offset and I love it. He's local here in KC.

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Old 09-16-2021, 01:53 PM   #9
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^^^

He's an excellent fabricator, the quality will definitely be on par with what you're used to.
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Give Dub Siegel with kcsmokerco a look. He custom built my offset and I love it. He's local here in KC.

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Is it the picture or is that pit really unlevel?
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Old 09-16-2021, 04:02 PM   #11
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Is it the picture or is that pit really unlevel?
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Old 09-16-2021, 04:09 PM   #12
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Here is the thread for when I got it.

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app


New custom offset arrived today!

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Old 09-16-2021, 04:29 PM   #13
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I really like a lot of aspects of the workhorse. Thick steel, well designed for excellent airflow, cowboy firebox as they call it to add direct sear opt, NO tuning plates, super long fire box, easy to clean fire box door, heats consistently across majority of pit and doesn't break the bank. Also like the linseed oil finish but that's personal pref.

The only two things I don't like are as follows:

Doesn't seem to have front deployable flip up work surface. This is important to me and the side deploy doesn't work for my layout.

Second is no cooker door counterweight option. I don't know but suspect that door is heavy. I don't want the stress on my shoulder and back.

I've not reached out to them to see if either of these are off the menu options.
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Old 09-16-2021, 04:37 PM   #14
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Get a Chud smoker or maybe a chud box
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Old 09-16-2021, 04:37 PM   #15
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It seems like at one point they were considering some kind of counterweight system. Primitive Pits has some kind of weight and pulley approach.
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