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Old 07-08-2018, 08:47 AM   #16
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A 1 oz bite is a really big bite. Consider most thighs are 5-6oz raw, with a bone, after cooked theres probably only 3-4oz of meat left. You aren't finishing a thigh in 4 bites, unless it's a big bite. Nobody is asking you to stuff your mouth to capacity. On a rib you should bite from the side to the bone, that is not 1 oz of meat unless people are doing Cadillac cuts which I dont know anyone that does.
Most restaurants serve up 8-10oz protein, 6oz starch and 4oz veg, 18-20oz of food. side salad, cup of soup, dessert, and now you're at 24oz of food easily. But I am pretty confident you've taken way more than 24 bites of food asked of you during judging.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:10 AM   #17
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As a non-competitor...I would say that the judges only need to know what's sitting on the table in front of them. They don't need to know anything else...other than the rules & criteria for judging of course.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:34 AM   #18
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For this newbie judge with cooler, the issue is not the cooler it is internal capacity. If I eat an ounce from each sample, I will have eaten 1 1/2# by the end of the judging. For me that makes for a very uncomfortable ride home!
No one requires you to make a happy plate.

Do you take home the samples you score a 7 or below and mix it with the samples you scored 8 & 9 with? How can that poorly scored food be any enjoyment for later consumption?

Do you cut away the area you spread your bacteria on to at least try to keep the sample sanitary?

If Not, Do you share this bounty from judging with others?

Its bad enough that the meat has gone from the smoker to a half dozen questionable unsanitary contact surfaces before it was picked out of a box on chemical laden produce then placed on a printed cardboard paper with no foodsafe certifications and who knows what type of ink it was printed and whose ball scratchers handled that "Judging Plate" at the many points from printer to judging table.

Go ahead and bag it up and let it incubate at 41+ degrees. I don't care if you have a baggie of ice. The bacteria has already bloomed right after you sampled it.

Honestly you are there to judge and not forage.

Even we as cooks throw away the remaining piece after we've sampled our own food in preparation to send you our best. We don't pile in in with the rest of the product and we have a better custody of the safety chain that you could ever have from contest food.

Jeez................

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Old 07-08-2018, 04:43 PM   #19
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Even we as cooks throw away the remaining piece after we've sampled our own food in preparation to send you our best. We don't pile in in with the rest of the product and we have a better custody of the safety chain that you could ever have from contest food.

Jeez................
Wait a minute...I am not supposed to put the piece I took a bite out of in the box? Opps
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Quite a silly rant, actually.

Too bad. I had some hope that I'd learn some things from this thread. But if the "Thanks" button love consensus is for silly rants, then I guess I'll just move along.
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Old 07-08-2018, 05:31 PM   #21
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Quite a silly rant, actually.

Too bad. I had some hope that I'd learn some things from this thread. But if the "Thanks" button love consensus is for silly rants, then I guess I'll just move along.
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We have a Master CBJ here in Ohio that trades bourbon (quality stuff too!) for BBQ teams' leftovers. We've traded with him several times.

Basically at every comp he's judging he picks 1-2 teams, messages them ahead of time, "You in for the trade?" "Yep!" "Cool!"

You want to see a judge who has a great relationship with cook teams...because that's one!
I need to attend that contest and that judge needs my name 😜
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Wait a minute...I am not supposed to put the piece I took a bite out of in the box? Opps
Of course you are!

That's the only certain way you can be sure that your are submitting your best six pieces to the judges, and they should appreciate your commitment to them.
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Of course you are!

That's the only certain way you can be sure that your are submitting your best six pieces to the judges, and they should appreciate your commitment to them.
Would love to be a fly in that tent to see!
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OK I ignored the bait for three days now, pretty good for me eh?

Blah,blah,blah, look at all my stuff, look how much I spend, see how much I spend on classes. Why don't I always win GC at every contest?

Must be the stupid judges that have coolers...maybe your "average" food got scored as a 6.
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OK I ignored the bait for three days now, pretty good for me eh?

Blah,blah,blah, look at all my stuff, look how much I spend, see how much I spend on classes. Why don't I always win GC at every contest?

Must be the stupid judges that have coolers...maybe your "average" food got scored as a 6.
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Been a long time since I've had a 6 or below. the last I can think of was when I won brisket in Kearny NE, the throw away score was 855, glad I wasn't tied with another cook.....right?
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Old 07-10-2018, 01:19 PM   #27
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Been a long time since I've had a 6 or below. the last I can think of was when I won brisket in Kearny NE, the throw away score was 855, glad I wasn't tied with another cook.....right?
This comment may not bring great results your next contest -- but I hope it doesn't bite you!
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OK I ignored the bait for three days now, pretty good for me eh?

Blah,blah,blah, look at all my stuff, look how much I spend, see how much I spend on classes. Why don't I always win GC at every contest?

Must be the stupid judges that have coolers...maybe your "average" food got scored as a 6.
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If this is directed at my OP, I never said anything about “average” food, not winning a GC every time or 6 scores. Any score that I recieve is a result of my action and I take responsibility for it. I never blamed or credited any judging for my results.

My comments were to make a point just as your Blah, blah blah was to make a point. I assume your point was that you could care less about my point. Fair enough.

I dislike judges bringing coolers. That’s my personal opinion for multiple reasons. Again, you could care less about my opinion, fair enough.
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Old 07-10-2018, 08:42 PM   #29
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I eat enough BBQ that I don't need to take home someone else's product, but why do you care if some judges do? Judges don't get paid for judging nor do they have any opportunity of winning prize money, so why begrudge them the opportunity to take home some meat that would otherwise be thrown away?
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I eat enough BBQ that I don't need to take home someone else's product, but why do you care if some judges do? Judges don't get paid for judging nor do they have any opportunity of winning prize money, so why begrudge them the opportunity to take home some meat that would otherwise be thrown away?
Over the years there are ample examples of judges that will nibble to maximize their haul. Are they the norm? No! I'm sure that there are, and have been, plenty of judges with coolers that take a healthy bite, or two, or even three if needed. It's the nibblers that have made it an issue.

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I personally would like to see organizers take my leftovers that I didn’t turn in to distribute to the judges after the contest and have the samples I turn in be for judging purposes only.

I’d be more than happy to load judges up for their time and effort.
If the organizers don't disclose which food came from which team I don't think there is a better solution.
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