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07-24-2021, 05:02 PM | #31 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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I've been practicing all weekend, so that I'll have a jump on you all.
Been experimenting cramming cellar into a muffin pan using a hydraulic press. Now I need to adopt that "to the field" so I can leave the press at home
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07-24-2021, 05:50 PM | #32 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Lard, no Parkay.
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07-25-2021, 07:40 AM | #33 | |
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The Rep advisory is indeed IN the rules and is enforceable after review by the BOD. All Rep Advisories are listed on the KCBS website and every cook should be fully aware of them. Ed
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07-25-2021, 08:39 AM | #34 | |
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07-25-2021, 12:10 PM | #35 |
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I like the proposed rule change. It seems like teams are cooking butts that have the money muscle technically attached with butts that have been trimmed right down to 4 lbs just to meet the rule. They only really want the money muscle anyway and you can't really blame them because that is what it takes to win. I think it really helps the teams with less cooking area. You can cook 3 money muscles on the top shelf of a 18" WSM. It takes a lot more work to cook 3 pork butts on a 18" WSM.
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07-25-2021, 07:00 PM | #36 |
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In these parts, country style ribs are cut from the shoulder. So I assume that would make them legal?
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07-25-2021, 07:33 PM | #37 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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No. The wording in the rules is "Country style ribs are prohibited". Which has double coverage.... loin back country ribs (like Juggy mentioned) or the sliced bone-in shoulder country ribs that are popular in my neck of the woods would both be an improper meat.
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07-25-2021, 09:10 PM | #38 | |
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I talked to the board member in charge of the rep committee about this very subject on Saturday at a contest. There are zero current rep advisories in effect for pork. I am fully aware of the current rules. You’d think judges should hold themselves to the same standards. Please email the board and get up to speed before spreading more misinformation.
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07-25-2021, 09:32 PM | #39 |
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Also this idea that a cook should know an advisory issued in 2010 buried on the KCBS website somewhere behind a paywall is the definition of insanity.
A) you don’t need to be a KCBS member to cook. B) if you go to a cooks meeting cooking your first event, they give you a copy of THE RULES. They don’t give you a copy of the rules and tell you to go read the last 35 years worth of rep advisories on the internet and figure out which ones still matter.
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07-25-2021, 09:55 PM | #40 | ||
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07-26-2021, 12:28 AM | #41 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Oops again.... Not thinking pork.... quoting ribs.
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07-26-2021, 07:22 AM | #42 | |
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Again, from the 2021 Rep advisory: 4.10 Pork Collar Question: Is the cut known as “pork collar” a legal cut for purposes of entry in a KCBS contest? Opinion: No. Rule 10 states: PORK: Pork is defined as Boston Butt, Picnic, and/or Whole Shoulder, weighing a minimum of four(4) pounds. After trimming pork shall be cooked whole (bone in or bone out); however, once cooked, it may be separated and returned to the cooker at the cook’s discretion. The KCBS Board of Directors has adopted the National Pork Board’s definitions which define the standard for cuts of Boston Butt (item 406 bone in or without bone), Picnic (item 405 bone in or without bone) and/or Whole Shoulder (item 403). Pork Collar is not included in these approved “American” definitions of food service cuts of pork. Therefore, pork collar is not an acceptable cut to be approved at meat inspection or turned in for the purposes of competition under the rules of KCBS. In the event a pork collar cut is turned in it shall receive a score of 1 by all judges in all criteria as a foreign object being a non-approved cut of meat. BOD February 11, 2011; Updated April 2019 with 2014 Pork rule Say what you will, but there is the advisory from 2021 and the Rep corp is bound to administer them as rules because they are current rule. Ralph Williams told you there are no Rep advisories for pork? Ed
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07-26-2021, 07:40 AM | #43 |
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Ed, you are wrong. I have discussed this with multiple board members. Please do the same before spreading false information.
The rep manual was redone by Rick Wagner without the pork advisories. Regardless of what was done (incorrectly) in the past, advisories are no longer used to attempt to modify rules because they aren’t rules. Collar, if 4 pounds and from the shoulder as a CT Butt like SRF and Prairie Fresh is a legal cut in KCBS.
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07-26-2021, 03:25 PM | #44 |
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If the new rule passes tomorrow at the BOD Meeting, is it expected to go in effect immediately?
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07-26-2021, 05:00 PM | #45 | |
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