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07-29-2021, 06:42 AM | #61 |
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" Rule 10 was revised on 7/27/21 to take effect as of 11/1/21 (the start of the 2022 KCBS season). The new rule reads:
PORK: Pork is defined as Boston Butt, Boston Roast, Picnic, Collar (aka Cellar) and/or Whole Shoulder. BOD July 27, 2011" Ed
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07-29-2021, 09:02 AM | #62 |
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You weren’t kidding
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07-29-2021, 09:19 AM | #63 |
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The USDA Fresh Pork 400 spec 407a defines a pork collar butt, and the difference between that and a CT Butt. I will admit, it's a small difference, and one with lots of ambiguity in there, but just allowing it is better than letting people interpret whether it is legal or not, imo.
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07-29-2021, 09:52 AM | #64 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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From the IMPS 400 Guide:
I noticed that ↑↑↑ the other day after Brad pointed out the 407, but my NAMP guide ↓↓↓ to meat stops there, it does not show a 407A. There might be a newer version. This does show that IMPS recognized "collar" in their 2014 edition
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07-29-2021, 10:26 AM | #65 |
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That's interesting Thirdeye...seems like with the confusion around what a collar is or is not on here, there would be many more arguments about it out "in the wild"
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07-29-2021, 11:37 AM | #66 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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07-29-2021, 04:58 PM | #67 |
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Wow, 16 pages of same-o, same-o!!
Same crap, different day. Ed
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07-29-2021, 07:04 PM | #68 | |
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07-29-2021, 07:09 PM | #69 |
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Nobody else has a dumb rule making them care!
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07-30-2021, 06:34 AM | #70 |
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I am a little confused with this. I think it's agreed that the 406 or 406A is legal. The description by ThirdEye says the 407 is the same is the 406A, with more removed. We are allowed to remove anything down to 4 lbs, so why wouldn't the 407 or 407A be legal if you are starting with a 406, which is?
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07-30-2021, 01:26 PM | #71 | |
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You can cook a collar as long as you don’t call it a collar….
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08-03-2021, 01:42 PM | #72 |
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https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/defau...ork%5B1%5D.pdf
Page 10 and 27 if anyone is interested. Never cooked a collar but this thread has me interested. Can you get them without ordering from SRF?
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08-03-2021, 06:08 PM | #73 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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08-04-2021, 08:58 AM | #74 |
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Prairie Fresh has them
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