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Smitty’s Pellet Pooper Ponderings
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sleebus.jones
is Blowin Smoke!
GMG uses PID for their temp control. Not sure what you mean by "digital".
SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
from what I've read there is Analog, Digital and PID.
The type of controller, like any other pellet grill feature, influences the purchasing decision, but often for the wrong reasons. A PID controller for a pellet grill, for example, is a fairly sophisticated industrial mechanism that uses a continuous feedback loop to make very precise adjustments of the fan and auger. That may be all well and good, but the end goal is not just temperature control but temperature control that produces the best quality and quantity of smoke. If the goal was simply precise temperature control, then why not just cook your ribs and brisket in the oven.
In fact, a digital controller, one that allows a +/- 10*F temperature swing (as opposed to the +/- .5*F swing of the PID) may actually produce MORE good smoke because of more pellet smoldering in the temperature cycle. We believe that’s one reason why Grilla and Silverbac produce a smoke flavor equal to or superior than any PID grill on the market.
We’re not stating that the PID controller is not a good controller. We’re simply pointing out that there is no documented evidence that correlates better smoke production or flavor to the more costly PID controller.
Grilla Grills doesn’t believe in frills that offer pretend luxury. We don’t want excess. We want results. So, rely on Grilla Grills to deliver maximum smoke when you set the digital temperature control. Flowing from under the rack, the robust smoke produces the deep, rich, unbeatable flavor.
FROM :
https://grillagrills.com/pid-controllers/
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Everything on Green mountains Website says Digital Controller - NO mention of PID........?
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SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
Joshw
Babbling Farker
That's from Grilla Grillz not Green Mountain, and it is marketing nonsense, from a company that doesn't want to use a PID controller. Not saying anything about Grilla, but that comment is nonsense. Just like Rec Tec saying that thinner metal holds temps better than thicker metal. You have to take the source in account when researching. It's not the temp swing that creates smoke.
SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
thats probally why I typed "FROM: https://grillagrills.com/pid-controllers/ " :twitch:
and this was in answer to sleebus.jones saying he doesn't know what I mean by Digital........
Joshw
Babbling Farker
I was referring to this.
Originally Posted by SmittyJonz View Post
Green Mountain uses Digital instead of PID -but haven’t seen much issues on their controllers lately. Seen some issues 2015-16 of controllers being replaced under warranty pretty regular....
Then you posted the comment about Grilla.
Originally Posted by SmittyJonz View Post
Green Mountain uses Digital instead of PID -but haven’t seen much issues on their controllers lately. Seen some issues 2015-16 of controllers being replaced under warranty pretty regular....
Then you posted the comment about Grilla.
SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
exactly - everything thing on the Website says Digital, not PID. the threads on pellet People forums about replacing their Green mountain controllers under warranty all call them Digital controllers.........All the Brands I see wih PID says PID controller? So I just Now emailed Green Mountain and Asked......and we'll See.....maybe it is PID? -but I'm going by what the Website says in their description.......
Joshw
Babbling Farker
OK, I got confused when you jumped from GMG to Grilla. Still stick by my nonsense comment though.
SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
the Grilla qoute was what I could find explaining difference in Digital and PID controllers. Green Mountains is All about their WiFi.............
I read a thread on a Pellet forum explaining the difference in Detail but that was Last Week and I didn't Bookmark it (wish I had) and can't find it now.........:tsk:
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SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
Good to Know- I could Not find a description on their Website except for "Digital"
Burnt at Both Endz
Babbling Farker
Have you checked out that controller for the CookShack PG500 grill? You can actually change the drop rate to get wider swings and more smoke.
PID's are not the best way,IMO….but the Mrs would tell you that I'm never hardly right anyways.:mrgreen:
Joshw
Babbling Farker
SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
No cuz they are above price range I have been looking at........
Like I siad in this thread - I think I want PID from all the controller swaps on the cheaper Units I seen guys doing......they all go to PID - Savanah or Smoke Daddy - maybe cuz thats all there is aftermarket.?
SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
I did Not go into the Manual pdf.......just on their web pages........I have edited the post on Green Mountain......
Burnt at Both Endz
Babbling Farker
Yeah, pretty much right, but they have this theory that solid temps produce better food. Unless you are supplementing the smoke, PID's will produce less smoke from pellets. You need the swings to die down the fire so the new pellets will smolder some before igniting.
New England makes a knockoff PG500, without the cold smoking tray.:thumb:
SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
No because they are Higher $ than the Range I have been looking at......
And my Conclusions may change as I Learn more........:shock:
But as of right Now - RecTec Stampede still Looks like the Best Bang for the Buck For Me (and in Original Post said Green Mtn. was my 2nd Choice) but I May Never get a Pooper.......:biggrin1:
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SmittyJonz
somebody shut me the fark up.
Even that isn't guaranteed to work. I tried to switch to a Smoke Daddy, and it was months of headaches. I had to go through 2 controllers, 1 fan, 1 auger motor, and finally I just shipped it all back to them and went back to stock. For me, it never worked and my food was ALWAYS covered in soot. I really liked the idea of having more temp control, but that one wasn't the answer for me. Always a risk when you start making modifications.
