Trouble keeping temps up on my UDS

If you got the temp up by cracking the lid, it is a good indicator you don't have enough exhaust. Need more exhaust that intake. It is easier to choke off exhaust than not have enough.
 
If you got the temp up by cracking the lid, it is a good indicator you don't have enough exhaust. Need more exhaust that intake. It is easier to choke off exhaust than not have enough.

That's the thing. The temp was the same with the lid cracked or closed. The temp dropped when I had the lid completely off but that's because it let all the cold air in.
 
I guess I'll just wait till my homemade guru is done later this week. A fan blowing air directly on the coals should make short work of any problems with temps being too low. I'd really like to get this figured out though. I am going to widen up my exhaust vents another 1/8" to get them up to 1/2". I really don't see how that is the problem if the temperature stays low even when the lid is cracked open. Based on what I've read, and my test run, these things should get really hot with all vents open.
 
Some respected members gave you some good advice. The choice is yours if you want to listen to their advice.
My advice is go to the UDS thread and look and see what size exhaust hole the majority of the UDS's have.

Good Luck!!
 
My UDS fluctuates some during the cook. I've only cooked twice. I have 3 1" intakes (nipples and caps, valve) and one 2" exhaust hole on the lid (magnet). Think I might add another exhaust. I like to cook around 260-270 so far. I can't seem to get above 300 which is fine with me. This is the best place to learn. It's BBQ college in here!
 
In post#15, it looks like you have some lump charcoal pieces laying on the bottom of your drum. I also don't see any daylight coming through your intake holes. Are the ontakes covered up with magnets or something or is the loose charcoal in the nottom of the drum blocking your intakes? You still need to make your exhaust holes bigger, 3/8" aint gonna cut it bud.
 
I agree you need more exhaust. Also, how much lump you start with in your chimney makes a difference. Every UDS is slightly different and they kind of like to sit at a certain temp, so how much you light in your chimney can have an impact on the range of temps it will run during the cook.

I'd start with increasing the size of your exhaust holes so you can run with the lid fully on and have adequate exhaust. Then you can begin to play with the amount in the chimney.
 
The pic in #15 was before I washed it out. I think that may have been some ash on the bottom left over from the burn out. But the intakes are wide open. I'm doing another small cook today. I'll open up the exhausts to 3/4" before I start. That is roughly equal to a 2" bung hole. I'll also play around with how much I start in the chimney. My fuel is getting pretty ashed so I'll pick up some briquettes to top it off and try something different. I'll try 15 briquettes and see if that helps get the temps up at start. About how long does it take for the UDS to get up to temp?
 
Maybe I'm just impatient. I usually stick my meat on soon after the coal basket goes in. I figure it can cook at a lower temp until it gets up to temp. Just get things started a little sooner. I'll wait till it's fully up to temp before putting meat on this time and see if that makes a difference.
 
Maybe I'm just impatient. I usually stick my meat on soon after the coal basket goes in. I figure it can cook at a lower temp until it gets up to temp. Just get things started a little sooner. I'll wait till it's fully up to temp before putting meat on this time and see if that makes a difference.

How many completely lit coals do you put into the basket to get it started?

You might now be starting with enough lit, which causes the fire to slowly come up to temperature vs starting out at the right temperature. I have 3x 3/4in intakes. I start with 3/4 of a regular weber chimney of charcoal briqs and it gets up to 300-325 with thin blue within 10-15mins.
 
I use a small pile of lump. Maybe 8" diameter and 4" tall. I wait maybe 15 minutes. In that time they are probably 25-50% ashed over. I'm probably jumping the gun aren't I.
 
How many completely lit coals do you put into the basket to get it started?

You might now be starting with enough lit, which causes the fire to slowly come up to temperature vs starting out at the right temperature. I have 3x 3/4in intakes. I start with 3/4 of a regular weber chimney of charcoal briqs and it gets up to 300-325 with thin blue within 10-15mins.

Can you clarify, please?

You're dumping 3/4 of a Weber chimney of lit coals, on to a full, unlit, basket, right?

Are you scattering the lit coals over the top, rather than pouring them all in one concentrated area (can method)? Thanks.
 
It does take some patience. Starting out with 100% unburnt charcoal I would place all the fuel in the basket. Next I would pull out a small section say right in the middle. Light that in a chimney and then replace into the hole from where it was taken.

***IMPORTANT***

Do NOT just put the lid on after dumping the lit in...Leave the lid off for 10 minutes or so just so the fire stays stoked. Then close the lid and keep the vents wide open.

After your temperature in the drum reaches your desired cooking range then add the meat. The temp will drop but will rebound.
 
Another thing I think you'll find is that your actual grate temp in the middle is quite a bit higher than what your temp gauge is reading. If it's cold out my temp gauge on the side of the barrel can be as much as 100 deg lower near the cooler barrel wall than in the centre of the cooking grate that is directly above the heat source. I've started using a diffuser plate to help even out temperatures across the grate and I find the difference now is down to about 30 deg.
 
Good info. Thanks guys. I'll report back after my cook tonight. I think my problems are 2 fold. Not enough exhaust and not giving the coals enough time.
 
Can you clarify, please?

You're dumping 3/4 of a Weber chimney of lit coals, on to a full, unlit, basket, right?

Are you scattering the lit coals over the top, rather than pouring them all in one concentrated area (can method)? Thanks.

I dump the lit coals evenly over the top of the unlit coals. I then leave the lid off for about 5-10mins and then put the top on. Within 5-10mins from there I typically am up to temp and have thin blue going. Obviously your mileage my vary depending on how your uds airflow is.
 
Ok that did the trick. I widened the exhaust vents to just shy of 3/4" and I let the coals get good and hot before I added them to the basket. I also left the lid off of the UDS for a good 15-20 minutes with all intake vents wide open. When I put the lid on, the temp rose to 325 over the course of 15 minutes. I then closed all the intake vents for 10 minutes or so to get the temp back down. When it was about 250 I put the meat on and opened 1 vent. It settled into 225 and stayed there for the whole cook. It is truly awesome to have some true BBQ geniuses here to help out a noob like me.

The size of my exhaust holes. There are 8 of them evenly spaced in a circle about halfway from the center of the lid to the outside edge.
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What my charcoal basket looks like after 3 cooks. It was full at the beginning.
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My ghetto home made charcoal chimney. This is how much lump I started and what it looked like right before I put it in my basket. That is 1/2" hardware cloth for scale.
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The arrangement of lit charcoal in the UDS right after I put it in. The hardware cloth was bending around the 3" bolt legs so I decided to just set the whole thing on a few half bricks. I really need to make a new basket
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Coming up to temp soon after I put the lid on. I can't tell, is this "sweet blue" or "ugly yellow" smoke?
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Peak temp before I brought her back down to 225. I need to get a digital thermometer and set it in the middle of the grate to see what the temp difference is between center and wall.
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