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DRMSMKER 03-15-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ebijack (Post 3966680)
I got rid of my ash pan years ago. Much easier to just sweep up the ashes and grease.
This has ALOT of grease to manage
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/jVIsAt.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/5XXMUu.jpg

Before I had my ash pan I did what you do but then I'd let the clean up window close b/c of procrastination and then my ash and grease will harden to concrete.

el luchador 03-15-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bschoen (Post 3966671)
I had the same concern, I checked the MSDS. It appears to be 100% diatomaceous earth, so no problem. Here is a link to the msds (Manufacturers Safety Data Sheet, or something like that).

https://www.msdsdigital.com/floor-dry-msds

contains less than 1% Crystalline Silica -Quartz
-May cause cancer by inhalation.

I personally wouldn't use that. just mho

D&D BBQ 03-15-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by el luchador (Post 3966735)
contains less than 1% Crystalline Silica -Quartz
-May cause cancer by inhalation.

I personally wouldn't use that. just mho

So does cooking on a UDS in general, so if you’re worried about a SLIGHTLY increased chance of cancer, what are you doing cooking on one?
https://m.phys.org/news/2017-07-anti...eciphered.html

“Antibody against carcinogenic substance deciphered
When fat reacts with glowing coal at a barbecue, a substance chemists call benzopyrene is created. It is a widespread environmental toxin that can cause cancer in humans.”

el luchador 03-16-2018 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by D&D BBQ (Post 3966774)
So does cooking on a UDS in general, so if you’re worried about a SLIGHTLY increased chance of cancer, what are you doing cooking on one?
https://m.phys.org/news/2017-07-anti...eciphered.html

“Antibody against carcinogenic substance deciphered
When fat reacts with glowing coal at a barbecue, a substance chemists call benzopyrene is created. It is a widespread environmental toxin that can cause cancer in humans.”

So I should increase my chances of cancer by adding another carcinogenic?

Ok makes sense

D&D BBQ 03-16-2018 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by el luchador (Post 3967085)
So I should increase my chances of cancer by adding another carcinogenic?

Ok makes sense

If you read your link, it referred to inhaling large quantities, such as when mechanics pour a bunch on the floor to clean up large spills several times a day without masks. You’re not doing that here whereas if you’re cooking on a UDS regularly without a deflector and so the fat is dripping on the coals, you are exposing yourself to cancer causing substances every time you cook.

Bottom line: It’s such a SLIGHT increase in cancer risk as to be almost neglible in either case above, much as the overblown studies a few months ago that screamed “red meat causes cancer” (further in-depth reading revealed less than a 0.5% increased risk, as I recall). You’re in the wrong hobby if you worry about that kind of stuff.

bschoen 03-16-2018 08:51 AM

Sheesh, anything and everything may cause cancer if inhaled. Or ingested, bathed in, walked by...
Life causes cancer.

Organic gardeners use DE for bug control, works great for snails and slugs.

el luchador 03-16-2018 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by D&D BBQ (Post 3967087)
If you read your link, it referred to inhaling large quantities, such as when mechanics pour a bunch on the floor to clean up large spills several times a day without masks. You’re not doing that here whereas if you’re cooking on a UDS regularly without a deflector and so the fat is dripping on the coals, you are exposing yourself to cancer causing substances every time you cook.

Bottom line: It’s such a SLIGHT increase in cancer risk as to be almost neglible in either case above, much as the overblown studies a few months ago that screamed “red meat causes cancer” (further in-depth reading revealed less than a 0.5% increased risk, as I recall). You’re in the wrong hobby if you worry about that kind of stuff.




I understand well the supposed risks of eating meat and the risk of cooking meat on coals. That doesn't mean because I'm taking some risk that all risk becomes ok.

D&D BBQ 03-17-2018 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by el luchador (Post 3967173)
I understand well the supposed risks of eating meat and the risk of cooking meat on coals. That doesn't mean because I'm taking some risk that all risk becomes ok.

Yeah, we all got different risk perception and tolerances. As mentioned above, hippy dippy organic farmers are just fine with being exposed to DE on their crops and you don’t want it around your cooker that has red meat dripping fat on hot coals. Alrighty then. Different strokes for different folks.

dadsr4 03-22-2018 03:26 PM

For those interested in hanging and doors, check out this thread.
https://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/s...=1#post3970125

Maximusbeardius 03-27-2018 12:21 AM

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Took about a week to read this whole topic . Just wanted to thank everyone for all the information. New to smoking. Started on a pellet, then to a pitbarrel and now just made UDS with my father. Figure i would post it here.

el luchador 03-27-2018 07:31 AM

Beautiful!

And you made it yourself. How can you beat that

bschoen 03-27-2018 12:42 PM

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I am going to name it ElmerJ.

Steve S 03-27-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximusbeardius (Post 3972129)
Took about a week to read this whole topic . Just wanted to thank everyone for all the information. New to smoking. Started on a pellet, then to a pitbarrel and now just made UDS with my father. Figure i would post it here.

Nothing ugly about that. Nice work.

10miler 03-27-2018 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve S (Post 3972412)
Nothing ugly about that. Nice work.

+1 I don’t think any drum smoker is ugly!

Blythewood BBQ'er 03-27-2018 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximusbeardius (Post 3972129)
Took about a week to read this whole topic . Just wanted to thank everyone for all the information. New to smoking. Started on a pellet, then to a pitbarrel and now just made UDS with my father. Figure i would post it here.

Very nice! Gorgeous drum! just ordered some of the p ipe intakes for my drum. Hopefully they will get here before the weekend and I can get them on it. Where did you order your's from? Ordered mine from uds parts .com but they have yet to be shipped.


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