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Nuco59 02-24-2018 05:41 PM

I have a bit of learning to do as I figure out exactly where my intake should be set to get my target temps. You will have it figured out in a couple of cooks- a UDS is very easy to dial in.

I used a homemade slider instead of ball valves. Has anyone else done something similar? If so what are your thought If it can open or close to regulate air, it's probably been used on a UDS. Big fan of the slider. If your slider is stiff, work it a bit - it will get easier. Might need to tweak it a bit with a pair of pliers or a persuader.

Also need to make a mount for my meat probe I used a thin strip of sheet metal (18 gauge) about 3" wide by 9" bent into right triangle -painted it black- used a couple of strong magnets to attach it to the drum. Stick my DOT to that - move it from cooker to cooker as needed.

Enjoy your drum- built my first one about 4 years ago- still cook on one about every other weekend.

el luchador 02-24-2018 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakestyle5 (Post 3957487)
I’m a new member/new to smoking. I built a homemade UDS and tested it this weekend. I have to say I’m quite pleased. I have a bit of learning to do as I figure out exactly where my intake should be set to get my target temps. I used a homemade slider instead of ball valves. Has anyone else done something similar? If so what are your thought. I did it this way because it was much cheaper. I may change that down the road as the slider is a bit stiff. Also need to make a mount for my meat probe. Would post photos but I don’t know how. Lol.

congrats!!!!!111

you have just built a smoker that has proven capable of winning multiple competitions in the right hands. there is nothing wrong with a slider. might even be a better way of doing it vs ball valves as its more repeatable.

just remember to sneak up on your set temp and, a UDS does not need a lot of intake air to maintain 225-275. it uses surprisingly little intake area so have it wide open till its within 25 degrees of your set temp, then close it down till its about 10 degrees away, then close it down quite a bit. if it stops rising or starts dropping, then open it just a bit more.

for reference, my drum will hold 225 degrees with just two 3/8 holes providing intake air.

Snakestyle5 02-24-2018 10:57 PM

Thanks. This is my rig so far. A few mods I want to make yet. I’ll keep the slider but need some way to mount my temp probe.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0...4e&oe=5B462B03

Czarbecue 02-24-2018 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dan (Post 3957496)
Heat rises.


It will also radiate through the expanded metal unless you contain it.

ebijack 03-12-2018 05:43 AM

Sans 007
 
This is the first time using "stubby 007" burning pure wood since the stubby mod was completed. My raised grate ring 4" above the barrel. That 4" allows cooking over fire burning wood splits. With fire management. You can grill from 250* up to 550*. Those are the temps I was able to maintain before shortening the drum. Stubby follows suit very well.
I smoke/grilled wings (marinated in Franks over night) at 250-275* for 1.5hrs till the wings were in 190*+ intenal temp range.
Anyways, with this set up I have 24" between the coal basket and cooking grate bottom. For those that want to know :becky:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/k99RIs.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/UonxVq.jpg

Got stubby fired up, a bit of hot coals to help to make a nice coals bed quickly.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5G7814.jpg

Toss the wings on and add dry rub
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/t5SEba.jpg

Flipped wings around the 45 min mark
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/kLJC8J.jpg

Fire/flame control cooking at 275* Very easy to maintain thru the cook.
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Wings done
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/XX3ZSA.jpg

Thanks for lookin.

Czarbecue 03-12-2018 10:15 AM

Were you inspired by Baby Back's video? :heh:

ebijack 03-12-2018 10:32 AM

Nope
Been doing this since
https://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/s...d.php?t=231293

But now I have a "stubby". My next(new) UDS will be a stubby. Except for not being able to hang full racks of ribs. I see no benefit to staying full size.
This is easier to clean (shorter and less reach). Cooks/operates just like full size. More mobile.
And no more getting grease stains on coats, shirts etc from bending over to get the coal basket handle.

DRMSMKER 03-14-2018 03:47 PM

instead of using a pan under the meat to catch drippings for ease of clean up does anyone just line the bottom of the drum with foil then later the next day just clean up the foil. Any fat that didn't make it into the fire basket that would have hit the bottom of the drum will now be solid and stuck to the foil for easy clean up right?
Thoughts on this? I was mainly thing about this from when cooking 3 racks of ribs where where the meat would over hang if i put a pan under and also would over hang the area of my basket and ash pan.

D&D BBQ 03-14-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DRMSMKER (Post 3966446)
instead of using a pan under the meat to catch drippings for ease of clean up does anyone just line the bottom of the drum with foil then later the next day just clean up the foil. Any fat that didn't make it into the fire basket that would have hit the bottom of the drum will now be solid and stuck to the foil for easy clean up right?
Thoughts on this? I was mainly thing about this from when cooking 3 racks of ribs where where the meat would over hang if i put a pan under and also would over hang the area of my basket and ash pan.

On a tip from a Gateway comp cooker, I line the bottom of my UDS and PBC with Floor Dry, a product gearheads use to clean up oil spills. Its not flammable and easy and cheap to get at Auto Zone and such. I use about 1/8 thick of the pellets on the bottom and every few cooks I scoop it out with a dedicated pooper scooper from Amazon. Takes maybe 30 seconds and no muss, no fuss compared to foil.

OferL 03-15-2018 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by D&D BBQ (Post 3966472)
On a tip from a Gateway comp cooker, I line the bottom of my UDS and PBC with Floor Dry, a product gearheads use to clean up oil spills. Its not flammable and easy and cheap to get at Auto Zone and such. I use about 1/8 thick of the pellets on the bottom and every few cooks I scoop it out with a dedicated pooper scooper from Amazon. Takes maybe 30 seconds and no muss, no fuss compared to foil.

Good idea. Thanks!

el luchador 03-15-2018 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by D&D BBQ (Post 3966472)
On a tip from a Gateway comp cooker, I line the bottom of my UDS and PBC with Floor Dry, a product gearheads use to clean up oil spills. Its not flammable and easy and cheap to get at Auto Zone and such. I use about 1/8 thick of the pellets on the bottom and every few cooks I scoop it out with a dedicated pooper scooper from Amazon. Takes maybe 30 seconds and no muss, no fuss compared to foil.

whats the chemical composition. I would be afraid of fumes from that getting on my food.

bschoen 03-15-2018 09:09 AM

I had the same concern, I checked the MSDS. It appears to be 100% diatomaceous earth, so no problem. Here is a link to the msds (Manufacturers Safety Data Sheet, or something like that).

https://www.msdsdigital.com/floor-dry-msds

ebijack 03-15-2018 09:12 AM

Just use the ashes from your cook to soak up any grease in the bottom.

DRMSMKER 03-15-2018 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ebijack (Post 3966674)
Just use the ashes from your cook to soak up any grease in the bottom.

My ashes only fall in my ash pan, i'm talking about when you have meat like multiple rack of ribs or 4 butts at one time that will drip where my ash pan is not. I will look into the floor dry stuff. Do you think cleaning that stuff out is any easier than just reaching down and balling up used foil?

ebijack 03-15-2018 09:28 AM

I got rid of my ash pan years ago. Much easier to just sweep up the ashes and grease.
This has ALOT of grease to manage
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/jVIsAt.jpg
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