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Mark 03-10-2009 03:10 PM

Fark! Power tools and alcohol. Been there; Done that. Several times. Just not exactly the same way.

blues brother 03-10-2009 04:43 PM

That will leave a scar...
 
http://s578.photobucket.com/albums/s...1236720727.jpg
Its all fun and games till somebody gets hurt...then it is funny as hell.
I am glad I was able to keep my grip on the grinder(had it in the "locked on" position). It would of beat the chit out of me!

mattweber 03-10-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd-santaclarita (Post 874304)
Hi Guys - I am getting to the final stages of my UDS. I have the expended metal and charcoal grate and bolts to build the charcoal basket identical to Norco's example. The only deal is i thought i was getting a welder and a visit from someone who is a welder....that could help me weld it all up....long story short those 2 things are not coming together. Can someone steer me to a weldless version of this charcoal basket. I already bought the stuff, so i dont want to go with a different version of basket...hopefully there is a weldless version of this basket out there. I cant seem to find it though. Any thoughts?

Thanks all,
JD

I just finished a weldless version myself. I used wire to attach the expanded steel to the weber charcoal grate. I also used the wire to attach both ends of the expanded metal together. Norco mentions this technique at the end of this post: http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...1&postcount=86

My wire was galvanized so I torched it with the weed burner to burn off the nasties.

Can't post any pictures right now as I am seasoning, however, once it is done I will post pictures of the basket and my new UDS!

Thanks,
Matt Weber

blues brother 03-10-2009 05:32 PM

I hope to have mine done this weekend and will post pics of the build.

Smokin' D 03-10-2009 05:38 PM

Charcoal basket
 
I'm right there with you, not a welder insight.

Here is the basket I made this past Saturday for my first drum.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...b/PICT0030.jpg

Expanded metal bolted together and wired with copper wire to the bottom grate. The handle is 1/8" x 1 1/8" aluminum that was just waiting for a good use. The ash catcher is the top of a 30 Gal. drum and is bolted to the basket. Easy in and easy out.

sfbbqguy 03-10-2009 06:27 PM

Nice looking basket Smokin'D!!
Now get that thing dirty.

boboQ 03-10-2009 08:37 PM

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Hi all excellent site just a quick question.do you think this is stained from the veg oil or is it lined

Weiser 03-10-2009 08:42 PM

Keep It Up Norco....
 
Yep, I'm cutting up a bunch of old treated landscaping timbers into chunks tomorrow.
Should make for a good mineral addition to the meat. :wink:
I draw the line at galvanized hardware. If it isn't stainless, I don't use it.
Will build the conventional basket this time, the old school way.

Weiser

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 872227)
Now all you need is a galvanized charcoal basket and hardware!:twisted:


Weiser 03-10-2009 08:44 PM

Bolt it up and use it!
That is good to go!
Nice drum.

Weiser



Quote:

Originally Posted by boboQ (Post 874528)
Hi all excellent site just a quick question.do you think this is stained from the veg oil or is it lined


Dr_KY 03-10-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boboQ (Post 874528)
Hi all excellent site just a quick question.do you think this is stained from the veg oil or is it lined

Nice little drum. It looks ok but take something and scratch it just to double check.

Weiser 03-10-2009 08:51 PM

JD, try this. Norco welded this one but you could use wire.
Not a problem.

Weiser
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...1&postcount=86


Quote:

Originally Posted by jd-santaclarita (Post 874304)
Hi Guys - I am getting to the final stages of my UDS. I have the expended metal and charcoal grate and bolts to build the charcoal basket identical to Norco's example. The only deal is i thought i was getting a welder and a visit from someone who is a welder....that could help me weld it all up....long story short those 2 things are not coming together. Can someone steer me to a weldless version of this charcoal basket. I already bought the stuff, so i dont want to go with a different version of basket...hopefully there is a weldless version of this basket out there. I cant seem to find it though. Any thoughts?

Thanks all,
JD


busted knuckles 03-10-2009 09:22 PM

Found me a drum today. Willneed to burn it out later this week or weekend. Have a drawn out plan and can't wait to get this thing going. Will be posting pics along the way. Thanks to all for your great ideas and trial and error.
First post on this site right here.

Weiser 03-10-2009 09:34 PM

Welcome Fellow Drumhead!
 
Now, get your ass over to the Cattle Call and tell us the rest of the story!
Welcome Bro, good group of folks here.

Weiser


Quote:

Originally Posted by busted knuckles (Post 874570)
Found me a drum today. Willneed to burn it out later this week or weekend. Have a drawn out plan and can't wait to get this thing going. Will be posting pics along the way. Thanks to all for your great ideas and trial and error.
First post on this site right here.


JD McGee 03-10-2009 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boboQ (Post 874528)
Hi all excellent site just a quick question.do you think this is stained from the veg oil or is it lined

Looks good from here...is there any rust in there? If so...there is no liner. Like Doc said...see if it'll scratch...if you hit bare metal real easy...there's no liner. :-P

dbeast420 03-10-2009 10:16 PM

Just a little update.....

11 hrs and still kicking along at 200*

Approx half of a 12" x 12" x 12" basket of WallyWorlds best coal and 3 medium chunks of hickory

I've got a feeling I'm going to love this one and might even add to the stable :oops:

Bbq Bubba 03-10-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boboQ (Post 874528)
Hi all excellent site just a quick question.do you think this is stained from the veg oil or is it lined

YES....it's not the dreaded orange liner but it is one none the less!

ALL my barrels come with that in it, it comes out easy pesy with a wire cup on a grinder but don't season over it, it flakes off pretty easily.

Weiser 03-10-2009 10:32 PM

Really???
Is it a plastic or a sprayed in thing?
I wheeled mine out yesterday, got lucky... nothing but surface rust.

Weiser



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbq Bubba (Post 874614)
YES....it's not the dreaded orange liner but it is one none the less!

ALL my barrels come with that in it, it comes out easy pesy with a wire cup on a grinder but don't season over it, it flakes off pretty easily.


Dr_KY 03-11-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busted knuckles (Post 874570)
Found me a drum today. Willneed to burn it out later this week or weekend. Have a drawn out plan and can't wait to get this thing going. Will be posting pics along the way. Thanks to all for your great ideas and trial and error.
First post on this site right here.

Start with three intakes @ 3/4" and go from there.

boboQ 03-11-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbq Bubba (Post 874614)
YES....it's not the dreaded orange liner but it is one none the less!

ALL my barrels come with that in it, it comes out easy pesy with a wire cup on a grinder but don't season over it, it flakes off pretty easily.


I burned it out. then seasoned it, but wasn't sure if it was a liner or not so i burned it out again do you think it will be ok. I painted the outside with heat paint and it burned completely off on the second burn

Weiser 03-11-2009 08:09 PM

BoboQ, a photo may help get some more opinions.
Sounds like you got it hot enough the second time.
Did you see anything weird in there after the second burn?

Weiser

busted knuckles 03-11-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weiser (Post 874576)
Now, get your ass over to the Cattle Call and tell us the rest of the story!
Welcome Bro, good group of folks here.

Weiser

I'm there!

boboQ 03-11-2009 09:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Weiser (Post 875403)
BoboQ, a photo may help get some more opinions.
Sounds like you got it hot enough the second time.
Did you see anything weird in there after the second burn?

Weiser

the scratches are where i lightly rubbed sand paper over it, bare metal.

Weiser 03-11-2009 09:22 PM

That is a good looking Drum!
I'd use it in a heartbeat!
Fire it up, observe how it works temps etc., take notes.
Throw meat on it this weekend!

Weiser


Quote:

Originally Posted by boboQ (Post 875488)
the scratches are where i lightly rubbed sand paper over it, bare metal.


mattweber 03-12-2009 12:31 PM

Another UDS is born.
 
Hello all, I would like to introduce you to my new UDS. Thanks for all the great tips, tricks, and instructions on building her!

http://gallery.me.com/matt.weber/100...G_1066/web.jpg
http://gallery.me.com/matt.weber/100...G_1083/web.jpg
http://gallery.me.com/matt.weber/100...G_1085/web.jpg
http://gallery.me.com/matt.weber/100...G_1069/web.jpg

Barbarian 03-12-2009 01:49 PM

Hey boboQ why you gonna paint the inside???????

blues brother 03-12-2009 02:59 PM

Hey mattweber...nice looking UDS. Very nice.

boboQ 03-12-2009 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbarian (Post 876030)
Hey boboQ why you gonna paint the inside???????

no i didn't paint the inside, i painted the outside and had everything drilled and installed , then decided to do a second burn.

JD McGee 03-12-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boboQ (Post 875488)
the scratches are where i lightly rubbed sand paper over it, bare metal.

You're golden...fire it up bro! :biggrin:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattweber (Post 875959)

Nice build bro! :biggrin:

Weiser 03-12-2009 10:49 PM

Looks Great Matt!!!
 
Hope your Father approved the flat lid thing. :mrgreen:
Hope you get a chance to enjoy it this weekend.

Weiser



Quote:

Originally Posted by JD McGee (Post 876362)
You're golden...fire it up bro! :biggrin:



Nice build bro! :biggrin:


Barbarian 03-13-2009 12:32 AM

Smoke on Drumheads!!!!!!!!!!!

Smokin Turkey 03-13-2009 09:17 AM

Hey! That looks like one of my favorite Metallica shirts I shredded in my early days of the shop running my 8" polisher! I got a bruise the size of a grapefruit from the impact! I still wear the shirt cause I think we should be accountable for our stupidity sometimes. LOL!
Quote:

Originally Posted by blues brother (Post 874372)
http://s578.photobucket.com/albums/s...1236720727.jpg
Its all fun and games till somebody gets hurt...then it is funny as hell.
I am glad I was able to keep my grip on the grinder(had it in the "locked on" position). It would of beat the chit out of me!


madgator 03-13-2009 10:16 AM

New to UDS
 
Hi out there. Noobie from Florida. Recently got interested in building a UDS. A pile of Google searches sent me here. Currently reading my way through the thread. Lots of good info. Just purchased a food grade drum and plan on doing the burn out this weekend. My major concern is how to make a good charcoal basket and getting the ashes out of the bottom. Any suggestions?

Barbarian 03-13-2009 10:46 AM

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I like my new one. Want to find a way to make it a bit lighter, but it still is not bad to pull out. Easy ash cleanup.

azkitch 03-14-2009 12:33 AM

Rangerj competition success w/drum smoker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RangerJ (Post 848914)
I've decided to dive into the competitive scene this year. I have not been able to decide on what type of "bigger" smoker to buy so I'm just going to create two more UDS's and see how that works.

Anyone here compete on a UDS?


Also, I have an offset stick burner and I was wondering would the basket design I used for my UDS ( via Norco's pictoral) work in the offset firebox and hold a similar steady temp?

I would like to use my offset as well, but that would require a trailer. I like the idea of tossing 3 drums in the bed of the truck and moving out.

How do I post this in another thread? I guess I can just do a copy/paste. I met Mr. RangerJ at the comp in Tempe last weekend, and he got to walk! Congratulations, RangerJ for a winning entry last weekend. Really nice meeting you, and judging your stuff--not that I had any clue...

h20loo 03-14-2009 08:32 AM

Stick burnin' UDS
 
Has anyone made a stick burner out of a vertical UDS? I was thinking of maybe an offset firebox on a conventional UDS. Probably not worth the work as what I like most about my barrel is when its in the zone you can almost forget it.
Maybe I'll steal my neighbors mailbox and give the offset idea a try...

Norcoredneck 03-14-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h20loo (Post 877260)
Has anyone made a stick burner out of a vertical UDS? I was thinking of maybe an offset firebox on a conventional UDS. Probably not worth the work as what I like most about my barrel is when its in the zone you can almost forget it.
Maybe I'll steal my neighbors mailbox and give the offset idea a try...

There was a article from a 60's popular mechaics that someone posted on here doing just that.

boboQ 03-14-2009 10:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Weiser (Post 875531)
That is a good looking Drum!
I'd use it in a heartbeat!
Fire it up, observe how it works temps etc., take notes.
Throw meat on it this weekend!

Weiser


Thanks for the help boys, much appreciated. seasoned it and put a fatty on it, worked excellent , can't wait till i can really cook on it.

Thawley 03-14-2009 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 877286)
There was a article from a 60's popular mechaics that someone posted on here doing just that.

Using a neighbor's mailbox to make an offset?

rockyathabaska 03-15-2009 12:01 AM

I've just started using my newly finished UDS with great results.My first two fattys were winners and now I want to do more.
I've got a 10 lb turkey and was not sure how to go about cooking it on the UDS.

any sage advice?

Norcoredneck 03-15-2009 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h20loo (Post 877260)
Has anyone made a stick burner out of a vertical UDS? I was thinking of maybe an offset firebox on a conventional UDS. Probably not worth the work as what I like most about my barrel is when its in the zone you can almost forget it.
Maybe I'll steal my neighbors mailbox and give the offset idea a try...

Our Identity Crisis Brother had posted it! Knew I'd find it if I kept looking.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...47&postcount=1

h20loo 03-15-2009 06:01 AM

Thanks Norco! I did a search but only turned up the "horizontal cut in half" versions.
I like looking at these old articles to see their methods. That damper on top is pretty cool snd would be handy for the temp checks or when you just have to peek, but the asbestos lining might not cut it today. Without a doubt the side table is necesary.
Not a mention about burnning out the oil barrel first.
Thawley- my neighbor has a mailbox on a curve in the road and between snowplows, and cars- the box is often just laying in the gutter. If I were going to steal anything from him it would be his trophy wife!!! I know- no pictures can't happen.
Rocky- I'm doing a 12 lb turkey on the UDS for the first time today. If you don't see pictures you know it wasn't special.

1130home 03-15-2009 08:33 AM

bad fitting weber lid
 
Will a bad fitting lid cause temps to rise to 300 and stay there even if all vents closed except exhaust?
Vent closed, valve closed, exhaust open.............300+ degrees.

N8man 03-15-2009 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1130home (Post 877910)
Will a bad fitting lid cause temps to rise to 300 and stay there even if all vents closed except exhaust?
Vent closed, valve closed, exhaust open.............300+ degrees.

Air is getting in to fuel the fire from somewhere, I would start by looking at the lid fit, use some aluminum foil around the lip of the barrel as a gasket, place the lid back on and see if it affects your temp.

sfbbqguy 03-15-2009 11:45 AM

I couldn't get my Weber lid to fit too good either at first. Lots of air leaks. Held temps around 250-275 okay with just a half ball valve open so i installed two latch clamps to hold the lid down a bit tighter and sealedup the air leaks pretty good. Now she chugs along at 225-235 for hours on end no problem. Also good to keep FIL from opening the lid to check things out for no reason!!! last time he was here he didn't get the lid on correctly and I had 300+ temps on my hands...may have to install some kind of lock to keep the lookie-loos out ofthe drum.

chinesebob 03-15-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbarian (Post 876608)
I like my new one. Want to find a way to make it a bit lighter, but it still is not bad to pull out. Easy ash cleanup.

That is freaking brilliant!

chinesebob 03-16-2009 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbarian (Post 876608)
I like my new one. Want to find a way to make it a bit lighter, but it still is not bad to pull out. Easy ash cleanup.


Can you post some more pics of your new firebox.

Quiggs 03-16-2009 12:06 AM

First try
 
Well after reading this thread "twice"! I tackled my first build. Thanks to all for the ideas!

Burning out freebie barrel..
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0708.jpg

Making firebox out of old grill..
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0710.jpg

Firebox done..
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0725.jpg

Decided to trim Weber lid to fit into drum lid..
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0720.jpg

Lid cut out...
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0723.jpg

Fitting..and it worked. Brazed it together after grinding porcelin off in a few spots.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0726.jpg

Air intake..
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0727.jpg

Twin racks and test fire..
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0728.jpg

Test chicken..
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0729.jpg

A bit of paint and shortened a handcart to bolt to barrel for transportation. Going to raise it 2" to keep off of ground before bolting together.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0747.jpg

Ash poker in cart hole..
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e/SANY0748.jpg

Sorry if this is to long, but thank again to all your posts for ideas!!

Quiggs of Lake Havasu!!

Norcoredneck 03-16-2009 12:45 AM

Drum in Havazoo! Looks good.

Barbarian 03-16-2009 01:51 AM

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Bob,
I am pondering the idea of using expanded metal and bending it like angle iron to make the entire thing lighter. One thing I like about this design is being square it pulls straight out and you have to screw up to hit any of the grate bolts and with the pullout ashpan the dumping of ashes is easy.

chinesebob 03-16-2009 12:02 PM

The slide out ash pan is a good idea too. I've thought of a variation - Will start on it tonight. Make the basket separate and put a second shelf in so you can use it for grilling or smoking.

Got everything I need so it's just down to measuring and cutting..... Watch for pics.


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