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Norcoredneck 01-28-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jd-santaclarita (Post 837918)
Guys - I am looking for some details on the intake pipe nipples. How long should they be? 1" long close nipples? Do they need to be stainless? I am not sure what they have over at home deeps, but i doubt its stainless...

Since i am not welding, just to make sure i got this right....I can thread in the 3/4" pipe nipple and on the inside i can lock it down with a conduit nut and same on the outside? I doubt the threading of the ball valve will thread all the way down to the barrel.

Thanks all,
JD


Garth57 has one I pass it daily and many times smoke is a rollin! I started one and never finished.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3115.jpg

Beerwolf 01-28-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 838185)
Garth57 has one I pass it daily and many times smoke is a rollin! I started one and never finished.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...k/IMG_3115.jpg

It just dont get any simpler than that... add in a thermometer and a ladder and you are set. The cool thing is you still got a complete Weber if you wanted to.

I am working on mine like that, its going to be a bit shorter and a little Cooler... of course

Single Fin Smoker 01-29-2009 02:10 AM

Norco, dude why would you build a smoker that is 5 feet taller than you? Whaddayou gonna stand on to get your meat out of that? Big ladder?

Norcoredneck 01-29-2009 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Beerwolf (Post 838459)
It just dont get any simpler than that... add in a thermometer and a ladder and you are set. The cool thing is you still got a complete Weber if you wanted to.

I am working on mine like that, its going to be a bit shorter and a little Cooler... of course

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Originally Posted by Single Fin Smoker (Post 838539)
Norco, dude why would you build a smoker that is 5 feet taller than you? Whaddayou gonna stand on to get your meat out of that? Big ladder?


I guess you missed the important detail "I started one and never finished". Guess i need to learn the real deffinition of "Cool":cool:

Dr_KY 01-29-2009 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by la smoker (Post 837159)
I know I am going to take a beating about these pictures,but here it goes. I know they are supposed to be ugly,OK so I got a little carried away. Though Im sure there are some football fans on here that think the LSU UDS is plenty ugly. I would like to thank everyone for all their post and help on the UDS. I have never smoked meat so easy and so good in my life. Now let the comments start!!
Thanks, la smoker

Very cool drums brother.

I'm afraid you are going to need more exhaust though and some sort of method to control the intakes, chrome or highly polish a brass a ball valve for each intake perhaps? You could use a chrome exhaust tip in the 2" bung on the lid then leave the other exhaust you have closed and call it a 'Knucklehead' UDS. Remember you need more out than in for the UDS to work properly.

Beerwolf 01-29-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 838540)
I guess you missed the important detail "I started one and never finished". Guess i need to learn the real deffinition of "Cool":cool:


HINT... legs are shortened and center support is scaled down...Do you remember my questions in my PM to you about sealing the drum to the kettle? It worked Slicker than Goose Grease...Pron to follow when completed and painted, hopefully this weekend

The main advantage to this is that you are using the whole weber instead of making another firepit out of the basin... as well as doing away with nipples and a ball valve... Oh Ya... its now self cleaning

la smoker 01-29-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr_KY (Post 838550)
Very cool drums brother.

I'm afraid you are going to need more exhaust though and some sort of method to control the intakes, chrome or highly polish a brass a ball valve for each intake perhaps? You could use a chrome exhaust tip in the 2" bung on the lid then leave the other exhaust you have closed and call it a 'Knucklehead' UDS. Remember you need more out than in for the UDS to work properly.

Thanks for the tips, you cant see it but I have 1 3/4 ball valve on the back fitting. I have did 10 to 15 cooks she holds good at 225 for 10 to 12 hrs with one bottom plug out and about 1/2 on the ball valve. thanks again. la smoker

Dr_KY 01-29-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by la smoker (Post 838639)
Thanks for the tips, you cant see it but I have 1 3/4 ball valve on the back fitting. I have did 10 to 15 cooks she holds good at 225 for 10 to 12 hrs with one bottom plug out and about 1/2 on the ball valve. thanks again. la smoker

Cool, lets see some of the dead animal that comes off of them. :cool:
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Are your reading 225 on those gauges you have installed? What are you using lump or charcoal?


We love to see seasoned smokers and food pron.:-D

la smoker 01-29-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr_KY (Post 838689)
Cool, lets see some of the dead animal that comes off of them. :cool:
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Are your reading 225 on those gauges you have installed? What are you using lump or charcoal?


We love to see seasoned smokers and food pron.:-D

200 on guage on smoker 225 to 230 on digital inside middle of smoker using charcoal starting a few coals in middle with flame thrower. thanks

Dr_KY 01-29-2009 10:45 AM

Excellent!!

Barbarian 01-29-2009 01:28 PM

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Well built another drum, basic drum with flat lid, but I had a charcoal basket made like the one that JDER30 did except I added an ashpan to the bottom so I just lift the frame out, pull the ashpan out and dump. So clean up is easy like the drum I built with no bottom so I could lift it off for cleanup, but should be airtight where that one was not. Got a lever-lock ring just to help keep it airtight.

Also just for fun to have things flush on the outside I used a stainless T-nut with a steel spacer, locknut and nut on 1.25" stainless bolts for the grate bolts.

Was thinking about the bottom like Jaranimo, but this looked easier to build.

Just finished the lid so the only seasoned so far, gonna do moink balls for a Super Bowl party on Sunday. Pron to come.

Dr_KY 01-29-2009 03:28 PM

I stinkin love it!!!!!!!!
Looks like the idea of the tall baskets is starting to take hold. :cool: If you ever want to use a pan or defuser it makes the perfect place/stand for em.

Mo-Dave 01-30-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Beerwolf (Post 838632)
HINT... legs are shortened and center support is scaled down...Do you remember my questions in my PM to you about sealing the drum to the kettle? It worked Slicker than Goose Grease...Pron to follow when completed and painted, hopefully this weekend

The main advantage to this is that you are using the whole weber instead of making another firepit out of the basin... as well as doing away with nipples and a ball valve... Oh Ya... its now self cleaning

Can you please share the method used to seal the drum to the kettle, I have an extra and think I would like to try that. Thanks
Dave

Beerwolf 01-30-2009 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mo-Dave (Post 839431)
Can you please share the method used to seal the drum to the kettle, I have an extra and think I would like to try that. Thanks
Dave


I wish I had taken pics...

First I made 2 cuts in my drum, one at the high point of the rib, all the way around and a second about 2 inches down from that, making a ring.

then I cut the ring and put it inside the barrel upside down, so it forms a channel against the remaining half of the rib. I cut the ring to fit and butt weld it back together. The ring is then tacked inside the barrel and 1/2" stove gasket is glued inside.

This is as far as I have gotten.. Im not sure how tight I will have to secure the drum to the kettle.. if at all. I will probably do a test on it on Saturday... if all goes good I will do a big fattie on it while the Steelers kick ass on Sunday

Mo-Dave 01-30-2009 12:35 PM

Thanks for the info and please keep us posted on the results.
Dave

ve3rpm 01-30-2009 12:38 PM

Shouldn't there be a tshirt or something for reading all of these?

Beerwolf 01-30-2009 08:36 PM

Well FARK... Ungrateful Bastage!.. How else are you gonna learn to make a drum? If ya dont want to read it all... make yer own! Or go buy one online from BDS... no one said you HAD to read it.... Just DO IT, you will be way ahead of the curve if you do... I was in the same state of mind and was glad I read it.

This thread is like the AA Big Book.. no prize except the one you have earned for yourself!

Barbarian 01-30-2009 11:31 PM

Easy Beerwolf he is a Canadian. Have a beer, lol.

Beerwolf 01-30-2009 11:33 PM

Eh... I was just kidding ... ya know

jaronimo 01-31-2009 11:47 AM

Jerry, I like the paint job on the new UDS. How did you do that? Sponge?

I like the flush t-nuts. Good idea. I have been welding everything. Gotta play with the toys when I can.

I have been busy the last few weeks and today is my first chance to do my test run on my drum. I found some 5/8 stove door gasket (rope) and adhesive for about 8 bucks and but it in place of the silicone seal on the drum. With the clamp on it appears to hold pretty good and I think the bottom drum will seal nicely to the top drum.

Its coming up to temp as I type. I have a fatty and a pork tenderloin that are going on it shortly. Pics to follow....

Kevin 01-31-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 837720)
Remember the Tide warm water deal. Cleans oil residue real well.


Looks cool but bet you won't have enough exhaust. Adapt some fishtails on the Harley Drum using auto header adapters.

Ding, ding, ding. I think I've got a pair of fish tails out in the shed. Thanks Norco.

Barbarian 01-31-2009 12:15 PM

Jaronimo, yes I used a sponge one of those natural painting sponges. Just wanted something different. Will be waiting to hear how it works out, good luck.

jaronimo 01-31-2009 12:37 PM

Test drive of UDS
 
OK, the food has been on the UDS about 45 minutes and the temp is holding rock solid. It has not moved even one degree! I seriously think I am going to spend a lot of time cooking on this UDS.

Heres the fire basket loaded up...
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/o...firebasket.jpg

Heres the food, a fattie with apple and cheese, and a pork tenderloin with Kosciusko mustard rubbed on and then some dry rub...
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/o...tfoodonuds.jpg


Here is a shot of the UDS. It is very ugly now, but as soon as I get a day that warms up enough to paint outside, it will be beautiful!!!
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/o...smokeonUDS.jpg

Barbarian 01-31-2009 12:58 PM

Lookin' good!!!!!!!!!
I like your paint job to, nice rusty hue.

DaveT 01-31-2009 06:17 PM

It's about time she's done! My new Stainless UDS.
 
It has been over a year since I stumbled across the UDS tread while I was surfing for BBQ smoking tips. Not sure how many times I have read this tread for great ideas, not very good at keeping notes. I want to thank everyone for sharing their great ideas. Well last week I had a buddy with a nice shop full of equipment like: plasma cutters, multiple welders, air tools, and more help me fabricate the new stainless steel UDS. OK here goes the pron.

She is not very nice looking right now. I know it is supposed to be an UGLY drum smoker but I am going to buff it out with some stainless polish and hopefully she will look nice again. The burn turned the nice looking stainless brown.
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7539.jpg
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7511.jpg

We welded a 2 inch stainless pipe for intake and exhaust.
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7517.jpg
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7513.jpg

I copied the flapper design from my Chargriller.
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7535.jpg

Found the stainless springs in the pluming section at HD.
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7537.jpg
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7528.jpg

The basket was given to me as is and we welded a base for an ash pan. I may have a problem with ash build up because the bottom has pretty small holes.
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7518.jpg
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7521.jpg
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7519.jpg

Used a Weber grate from HD.
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7538.jpg

Put a hook to hang the door like a Weber.
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7540.jpg

O yea she has a sister! I got the drum for free from a guy who owns a metal supply company. I was telling him about the UDS and he said "I have two stainless steel drums out back. If you build one for me you can have the other drum for nothing." Can't beat that.
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/g...T/CIMG7522.jpg

Only thing left is to get her greasy.:-P

jaronimo 01-31-2009 07:25 PM

Can't wait to see that thing polished up. You will need sunglasses to cook on it.:icon_cool

Beerwolf 01-31-2009 09:18 PM

New Prototype UDS
 
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Here is a VERY ROUGH version of what has been in my mind for the past few months. Ive always wanted to try controlling a UDS with one touch type valve. I finally got an idea to mate the drum to a kettle base and here it is.

Havent got this posting thing figured out alltogether.. so bear with me. First photo shows the channel I made from the half of the drum where I cut - I know its ragged, but it is a prototype and it wont show. The channel is filled with 1/2" stove gasket. The bottom legs of the Weber are shortened a bunch and I am still able to use the Weber ash pan to catch the waste.

I did a test burn today with about 1/2 # of charcoal in it and was able to get temp to hold steady at 250 for about 2 1/2 hours. I will be eager to see how it will behave with a good charge in it

Last pic is the Shop Foreman and BBQ Quality Assurance Manager... nothing gets by him.

roadracer 02-04-2009 02:45 PM

Newbie/lurker looking for some help!
 
Oh god's of the UDS please help me!

First I think that I need some eye drops because I did just finnish looking at all of these posts today.

Like I noted I have been lurking for a while now. But as I have been Lurking I have been looking for my drum. I live between Detroit Lakes, MN and Fargo, ND and I cannot find any drums local. Anyone have any ideas? I have actually contacted a company that builds tanks to price out getting a 1/8" sheet rolled to a 23.5" dia. But at $125 I'm back looking for a drum. Might be worth it after I have gotten some practice with a drum.

Thanks for any help! And have a great day!

cardiac_cadet002 02-04-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by roadracer (Post 843852)
Oh god's of the UDS please help me!

First I think that I need some eye drops because I did just finnish looking at all of these posts today.

Like I noted I have been lurking for a while now. But as I have been Lurking I have been looking for my drum. I live between Detroit Lakes, MN and Fargo, ND and I cannot find any drums local. Anyone have any ideas? I have actually contacted a company that builds tanks to price out getting a 1/8" sheet rolled to a 23.5" dia. But at $125 I'm back looking for a drum. Might be worth it after I have gotten some practice with a drum.

Thanks for any help! And have a great day!

Check your local craigslist if everywhere else fails. Search for "metal", "drum", or "Barrel". That should get you a few hits.

EatonHoggBBQ 02-04-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by roadracer (Post 843852)
First I think that I need some eye drops because I did just finnish looking at all of these posts today.

I know what you mean there roadracer. It took me about three days to read all the posts. :shock:

Beerwolf 02-04-2009 07:51 PM

Be creative... it doesnt have to be a Drum to be an Ugly Smoker... what about an old pressure tank from someones well? Looks like you are in farming country... let your imagination run wild

jgh1204 02-04-2009 08:14 PM

roadracer, call around to local food producer's that is where I got my first one. Later, I got a new unlined barrel from an oil distributer.

h20loo 02-05-2009 07:47 AM

Implement dealers, scrap metal yards and pretty much any manufacturer

farklf 02-05-2009 08:37 AM

I have read the whole thing. Where's my t-shirt?

Barbarian 02-05-2009 11:16 AM

Hey farklf I think there is a test you have to take first. Not sure who administers it though. It is not open computer either, you have to memorize the subject matter, like what to do if you don't weld and your nipples get loose.:lol:

Teleking 02-05-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Beerwolf (Post 844099)
what about an old pressure tank from someones well?

Like this, not a UDS but a pressure tank none the less.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...1/DSCF0069.jpg

Sorry for the hijack. My next project will be a UDS and I to am currently looking for a drum.

rameter 02-05-2009 11:58 AM

Wow. I bought my drum a week ago and have spent the last few days reading this entire thread! Great advise from all. Thanks. I think I have my plans figured out. I just have a couple questions. My drum was used for "apple juice concentrate" and doesn't seem to have any plasticy liner, but looks like white paint. Is this in fact a liner or just paint? I was planning on burning either way...just wondering. My donor kettle is the Uniflame and doesn't quite fit the barrel. I was going to cut the top of the bottom half of the kettle. Are there specifics on this? I think it was Swamprb who showed this? How well does this seal up? Help?

Jerrykr, I'm doing the upside down version (like you have in your blog). I'm wondering what you use to "seal" the bottom lid? It looks like some type of clamp? Where can i get one?

Thanks again everyone for their advise. I'll post pics soon.

jgh1204 02-05-2009 12:50 PM

You will soon find out when you start burning. Paint will come off pretty quick. That liner is tough.

Dr_KY 02-05-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Teleking (Post 844539)
Like this, not a UDS but a pressure tank none the less.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...1/DSCF0069.jpg

Sorry for the hijack. My next project will be a UDS and I to am currently looking for a drum.

That's creative with the wheelchair wheels but dosen't your ber get warm?:mrgreen:

bbq lover 02-05-2009 02:25 PM

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heres my stainless drum but we are still making the outer cover for all the controller and hopper we are making a pellets drum

Teleking 02-05-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_KY (Post 844638)
That's creative with the wheelchair wheels but dosen't your ber get warm?:mrgreen:

Those were the dead soldiers and I wasn’t running the cooker that day.
:wink:

bbq lover 02-05-2009 02:38 PM

now thats funny

jerrykr 02-05-2009 03:24 PM

I just used 3 clamps I got at Harbor Freight. They are adjustable.

I took the rubbber seal out of the lid and rolled up some tin foil "snakes" to put into the lid's lip instead.

It's not a perfect seal, but after a few smokes, the drippings and just general grease settle in the lip and help seal it up.

I can shut everything down completely and the fire goes out, so it's can't be leaking air very badly.

azkitch 02-05-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Thawley (Post 434137)
Okay, here's The Welder Thread then.

Also, I've posted a separate thread for UUDS™ Foot-Operated Air Vents & fire-basket/ash-pan combo. Just wanted to link it here with the rest of the UDS info...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1081/...4505bb12_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1041/...1658cbed_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1052/...fcbf5cbf_o.jpg

I decided that this thread isn't long enough. I hadda tack on to the end. (Welding pun not intended--but funny!) I saw this get-up, and just had to applaud the engineering! This is COOL!:cool:

azkitch 02-05-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbarian (Post 844527)
Hey farklf I think there is a test you have to take first. Not sure who administers it though. It is not open computer either, you have to memorize the subject matter, like what to do if you don't weld and your nipples get loose.:lol:

I hate it when my nipples get loose...
sorry

bigwilluk 02-05-2009 10:10 PM

Anyone in the KC area that has experience in manufacturing UDS' that would be interested in making and selling one, shoot me a PM

smokedawg 02-06-2009 06:37 AM

The holes on mine is 5/8 of inch and has a 1 inch wide and 3 inch long strip of metal that I can use to open or put them in place over the holes. I have 3 holes around the bottom, and up top I use the two holes that was in my lid but I always leave them open.

Thawley 02-06-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by azkitch (Post 844912)
I saw this get-up, and just had to applaud the engineering! This is COOL!:cool:

[Elvis voice]Thank yoo. Thank yoo vury much... [/Elvis voice]

VICIII 02-06-2009 09:07 AM

What a post...
 
Just got through this huge post. Much info here. I think my head is still spinning. I forgot most of it but I think I am ready. Now time just to find a drum.
Great info and thanks for all your time you guys spent putting this together.. It was a long but very useful read.

Weiser 02-07-2009 10:19 PM

Uds 1.02
 
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This thing is so ugly, I love it!
It makes good food too. :-D

Weiser


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