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el luchador 04-21-2018 03:35 PM

rainy day today. the uds was nice and dry on the inside . I do like the exhaust coming out the side

https://i.imgur.com/Bw0s7rv.jpg

dadsr4 04-21-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by el luchador (Post 3984497)
rainy day today. the uds was nice and dry on the inside . I do like the exhaust coming out the side

https://i.imgur.com/Bw0s7rv.jpg

I've never seen that before. It seems a valid alternative is rain is an issue.

el luchador 04-21-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dadsr4 (Post 3984502)
I've never seen that before. I't seems a valid alternative is rain is an issue.

I borrowed the idea from the pbc.

my uds lives outside so rain or shine it is protected.

bakerk7 04-22-2018 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Kettle (Post 3945151)
Thanks. I was THIS close to ordering a BBQ guru party Q one day to get the set it and forget it thing, but I'm a bit unsure of drilling a hole in the kettle. It has sentimental value to me even if that sounds sort of nuts also.

Build a UDS and a DIY temperature controller. Set it and forget it.

Robert 04-23-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bakerk7 (Post 3985371)
Build a UDS and a DIY temperature controller. Set it and forget it.

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Please tell us about your DIY temp controller.

thanks,

Robert

el luchador 04-30-2018 08:50 AM

I cooked an ungraded brisket last night. Came out great! $1.68 per lb.

I also rigged up a humidity sensor and the drum was purring along at 10% humidity at 225 degrees.

Shortexistence 05-14-2018 04:42 PM

Well, I got my barrel this weekend from Big R as a brand new drum and there were a few unexpected things. It looks painted on the inside but luckily I believe it is paint as it comes off with very little work with a screwdriver and shows bare metal. I was not planning on burning it but this way I get to play with fire. The second unexpected surprise was that the lid from my ancient Weber kettle which I was planning on using (when needed) damn near falls into the barrel I don't think there is any modification that can be done to fit it except making the lip completely flat which I'm sure will make it have air leaks for days, but also I would like to use it on my grill still. My question is Could it be that the lid comes off a very old kettle and maybe a newer kettle would have a bigger lid? From reading over 557 pages of this post it sounds like the Kingsford 22.5 grill might have a bigger lid. I own a 2 door sports car and it is not as simple as driving the thing around to test fit lids. I'm honestly ok with only having the flat lid but it would be nice to have a domed lid for big cooks. Oh, and I did check to make sure that my kettle is not the 18" variety. I am slowly acquiring parts and don't have a junk pile to grab from unfortunately to make this faster or cheaper. Hope to have everything I need in a month or 2. Will post here when I am done and hopefully provide some worthy pron.

ebijack 05-15-2018 04:31 AM

Measure the I.D. below the top lip of your drum. Then measure the seal area of your Weber type lid. I'm guessing the lid will fit perfect. The drums I have cut (different types/brands) the lids all fit very well after removing the rolled lip. Different brands of lids also.
Or you can put a piece 2" wide aluminum strip around the inside sticking up enough to support your lid. Lots of those have been done and posted in this thread.

Czarbecue 05-30-2018 10:30 PM

I'm not talking negligence here... but how long does a garage kept, 16 gauge drum usually last with general maintenance after cooks?

SmittyJonz 05-30-2018 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Czarbecue (Post 4005594)
I'm not talking negligence here... but how long does a garage kept, 16 gauge drum usually last with general maintenance after cooks?

9 years

el luchador 05-30-2018 10:53 PM

I've heard the bottom Rusts out in 8-10.

Then turn it over and use it upside down and just change lids.

Or I imagine a stainless drum would last a lot longer

jemezspring 05-31-2018 10:46 AM

My completely neglected UDS and by that I mean, left outside 24/7 365 with ash on the bottom, lasted 5-6 years before it developed a hole in the bottom center. Four years later the hole is roughly 12"x12" but I still use it all the time.

mproost 05-31-2018 11:16 AM

You could paint the interior bottom and it would delay the rusting much longer. Still a decade is pretty good given the low cost of ownership.

Q DAT 05-31-2018 12:38 PM

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Hi all, I just joined the forum and wanted to share my first smoke experience. I decided to build a UDS after trying to decide on a smoker. I've never smoked anything in my life but I wanted to start. My first smoke was Memorial Day. I've done a lot of research online and decided on doing 4 pork spare ribs. I was more than happy with the results. So tender, one broke in half taking it off of the pit. I am excited to finally be able to start smoking.

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el luchador 05-31-2018 04:07 PM

welcome aboard. you built a super affordable smoker that will serve you well for years to come. congrats. :thumb: :rockon:

if you want it even easier, add a heater meter with a fan for automatic control and wifi access to and control of your temps.

el luchador 06-13-2018 10:33 PM

using splits now in my charcoal basket

Im finding it gives a more robust, present flavor. and still thin smoke rolling out of the cooker

https://i.imgur.com/YPYqB0k.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o7t9foZnfk

Czarbecue 06-24-2018 08:52 PM

Just did my first degreasing cleanse of my 110 gallon UDS. Holy chit. Some people do this after every cook? I am exhausted... started at 7 pm and worked well past 9pm with the flood light on. Getting it ready for perhaps an extended long term shelving while the stick burner get some attention.

Czarbecue 06-24-2018 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el luchador (Post 4013248)
using splits now in my charcoal basket

Im finding it gives a more robust, present flavor. and still thin smoke rolling out of the cooker

https://i.imgur.com/YPYqB0k.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o7t9foZnfk


Looks blue to me, mango.

el luchador 06-24-2018 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Czarbecue (Post 4019059)
Just did my first degreasing cleanse of my 110 gallon UDS. Holy chit. Some people do this after every cook? I am exhausted... started at 7 pm and worked well past 9pm with the flood light on. Getting it ready for perhaps an extended long term shelving while the stick burner get some attention.


I think you are blazing the trail with the 110 gallon. The 55 gallon is far easier to clean

OferL 06-25-2018 03:38 AM

I've never cleaned the UDS. Just the grates. I think of it as next cook flavour 8-)

jermoQ 06-25-2018 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Czarbecue (Post 4019059)
Just did my first degreasing cleanse of my 110 gallon UDS. Holy chit. Some people do this after every cook? I am exhausted... started at 7 pm and worked well past 9pm with the flood light on. Getting it ready for perhaps an extended long term shelving while the stick burner get some attention.

Maybe I am doing it wrong??? I pour in a boiling pot of water, swish, dump, repeat, rinse and dry. The rest is just seasoning.

I would like to get a drum that big! How wide is your grate, and how tall?

Czarbecue 06-25-2018 12:24 PM

Ugly Drum Smoker
 
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Originally Posted by jermoQ (Post 4019211)
Maybe I am doing it wrong??? I pour in a boiling pot of water, swish, dump, repeat, rinse and dry. The rest is just seasoning.

I would like to get a drum that big! How wide is your grate, and how tall?


Someone on the Hunsaker page suggested degreasing after every cook (comp) so I decided to do it since I haven’t cleaned it out since the original build. I have six 29” grates built by Shirley Fab but only use three of them so far. Really only two since the third is a catch all resting on the Hunsaker vortex basket.

I spent most of the time cleaning the drum, heat deflector, and the basket itself. Oh, and the lid needed a good coat of degreaser as well. Did everything twice to use up the whole bottle.

I have 23” of vertical space from the top grate to the catch all grate. The drum itself is 42” tall.. then add the 4” casters I put on it. Overall it’s a little shy of 48” tall. Farking thing is a beast.

el luchador 06-25-2018 06:59 PM

I know that UDS are extremely efficient when cooking DOTC (direct over the coals). I would cook with a full basket of LUMP charcoal and the volume would hardly change, so I finally decided to test how efficient the uds is.

I wanted to see how much lump charcoal by weight and volume a uds cooking DOTC would use for a typical cook. I used a bone in pork shoulder for the test. I wrapped it after 6 hours and then took it to 202 degrees. I cooked at 250 degrees using the heatermeter to keep temp, and total cook time was 10 hours.

ambient temp started around 97 degrees and it cooled to probably 90 degrees after dark.

I measured the full chimney before cooking and then after cooking I shook off the ash and measured again.I did not use any wood chunks as I wanted to test only the charcoal efficiency

I used the chimney as my charcoal basket and just stuck it in the uds. only mods were to remove the plastic handle, and turn the bottom upside down for more space.


Results. wow!!! I wasnt surprised but it was impressive none the less.

not only are UDS super cheap to build, they are also super cheap to use.:rockon:

cooking at 250 for 10 hours dotc, the uds only used 2.5 lbs of lump charcoal,
or 0.25 lbs of lump per hour of cook time .
therefore a 20lb bag in theory should give 80 hours of cooking time.
and at $16/bag my charcoal cost for a 10 hour cook comes out to only $2.00 per cook :rockon::rockon::rockon:




chimney base installed upside down for more space in chimney
https://i.imgur.com/tSQEHga.jpg


full chimney weight 7lb 9 oz
https://i.imgur.com/D0sj0w4.jpg


full chimney lit and in place for cook. notice the plastic handle grip has been removed.
https://i.imgur.com/p9kEvur.jpg


volume after the cook before ash shaken out. looks like used about half volume
https://i.imgur.com/zQ8KRBv.jpg


ash shaken out, finish weight 5lbs 0.9 oz
https://i.imgur.com/zSNz3WV.jpg


heatermeter burn log
https://i.imgur.com/JhBlbFz.png


Delicous pulled pork
https://i.imgur.com/sANH75p.jpg

Steve S 06-27-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by el luchador (Post 3981588)
I gave away my first uds. I had some ideas on how to improve the uds and wanted to try them out

I borrowed the exhaust idea from the pbc.
1. Makes for a better sealed unit
2. Works the same in rain
3. Doubles as the inlet for the probe wires
4. Triples as the holes for the rod for hanging
5. It's also the handles for the drum.

I made it sealable so you can easily kill the charcoals once the cook is over



I used three bolts per grate instead of the standard four. Each one is 24" apart. Makes it a little easier to get grates out, saves on drilling and bolts.

I have the coals sitting on a grate 15" from the bottom cooking grate and 7" from bottom of the drum. Bottom of drum stays cool.
Being so close to the coals makes for a bloody efficient cooker.

I splurged on a drum dolly to keep the bottom of the drum dry when it rains. I could have used cinder blocks but what the hey it wasn't that expensive

I like the idea of the side exhaust holes. Are those just 1" nipples with PVC caps?

el luchador 06-27-2018 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve S (Post 4020574)
I like the idea of the side exhaust holes. Are those just 1" nipples with PVC caps?

thanks. the side exhaust is one of the best mods Ive done to the uds
Iirc its 1 1/4 pipe with screw on pvc caps. inside diameter I believe is 1.380"

https://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/a...1&d=1523842880

SmittyJonz 06-28-2018 12:47 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ct5KL2CkbQ&t=5s
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razorbrewer 07-07-2018 09:12 AM

Is anyone using a hitch mounted cargo rack to transport their drums? Any advice if so or other methods assuming no truck bed available?

Czarbecue 07-07-2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by razorbrewer (Post 4027626)
Is anyone using a hitch mounted cargo rack to transport their drums? Any advice if so or other methods assuming no truck bed available?


I’ve seen many of them used for transporting drums. Just look for one that is 23-24 inches deep to hold the drum.

ebijack 07-07-2018 09:50 AM

https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb...ier-69687.html
This one is wider than the metal ones.
27 5/8" wide

Cheaper narrow one
https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb...ier-66983.html

Jpdad04 07-13-2018 12:57 AM

I can't believe I made it though this entire thread. Only took me couple months.
Thanks everyone for sharing. I avoided many mistakes due to this thread.
Seasoned and getting ready to smoke first fatty this weekend. Still weird saying I rolled and smoked a fatty. Plenty of funny looks when I tell people that. :laugh:

OferL 07-15-2018 08:06 AM

On Friday I loaded my UDS with two rib racks

https://i.imgur.com/miuOD9wh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VKXFAzDh.jpg

2.5 hours later. Foiled them and laid on the grate.

https://i.imgur.com/hiNMa3ah.jpg

4 hours total.

https://i.imgur.com/ISnAbXfh.jpg

In the time they were on the grate I cooked some chicken breasts, corn and mushrooms on the lower grate.

https://i.imgur.com/xD4hahHh.jpg

The table

https://i.imgur.com/6ncQbddh.jpg

The ribs

https://i.imgur.com/Jwdw6XHh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/boDx8NNh.jpg

Clean bones. Not fall off but I like it not so tender.

https://i.imgur.com/0IxcTpJh.jpg

jermoQ 07-15-2018 08:55 AM

Every bit of that looks great! :clap: I am really wanting my corn to be ready now.

el luchador 07-15-2018 09:17 AM

Wow that looks so great

Czarbecue 07-15-2018 02:08 PM

I see you are using the Vortex without the deflector plate?

Peter V 07-15-2018 06:55 PM

Does the Lavalock or such gasket (1/2" x 1/8") do a good job sealing the lid on a UDS? I'm trying to get a no leak seal on the lid.

OferL 07-16-2018 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Czarbecue (Post 4033464)
I see you are using the Vortex without the deflector plate?

I use it on and off.
Ribs tend to drip a lot of liquid which builds up on the deflector and turns to hard burnt gunk.
With the deflector off it reaches the coal and turns to vapor which goes back to moist the meat on the outside.

If I'm making lean meat like chicken I use the deflector as it helps a lot with stabilizing the heat and distributing more evenly it in the barrel.
It actually gets hotter on the top grate then the lower one which is closer to the fire.

In this cook it was off during the hanging period and back on when I foiled and left the ribs on the grate, adding the chicken and vegetables.

OferL 07-16-2018 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter V (Post 4033638)
Does the Lavalock or such gasket (1/2" x 1/8") do a good job sealing the lid on a UDS? I'm trying to get a no leak seal on the lid.

I use it. Attached to the lid. Works great.

dgaddis1 08-10-2018 09:46 AM

OKAY. I've spent way too much time browsing this thread, and now I simply have to build myself an UDS. I do have a question tho, that I don't think has been answered exactly.

Has anyone purchased a new drum from either U-Line or McMaster-Carr? If so, does a Weber kettle lid fit it, and what type did you get (open top, closed top, with or without the 2" drain in the bottom, etc)?

I know all drums are slightly different. On some the lid fits perfect, some it takes some work, and some it actually fits the 'bottom' perfect but not the top.

I may be able to pick up a lightly used Kettle for cheap to use as an organ donor for a UDS build. For the drum itself, I'm leaning towards just buying a new one, hence the question. Both McMaster Carr and U-Line are local-ish to me so I could pick it up and save on shipping, but I doubt either of them want me wandering their warehouse checking the fit of the kettle lid...

bschoen 08-10-2018 10:51 AM

Just explain your need to the floor manager, most are sympathetic to a good cause. And what better cause than BBQ? Easier yet, call the shop and explain, maybe they know the answer you seek.

ebijack 08-10-2018 01:34 PM

I've found most drums that are open top (and some closed top). If you cut the top ring off. Most every Weber and knock off lid fits as long as you do a straight cut.

Nuco59 08-10-2018 05:41 PM

Was me, I'd go with an open top and use the flat lid that it comes with. Having a "weber" dome so you can have 2 grates sounds good but in practice - not so much. I got a "freebie" stainless closed head drum and had no choice but to adapt a weber lid to it. I did set it up to use 2 grates- but I won't cook on the lower grate. I use it for a catch pan...when I use it at all.

I'd pay good money (but not retail) to have the same SS 55 gallon drum with a removable flat lid

rinasek 09-08-2018 06:52 AM

First time posting here, read through 1/4 of this thread and here is the first result of my build:

https://preview.ibb.co/hX6mzp/IMG_5850.jpg

Thanks, everyone! So far I have been only reading here but I hope that in future I can contribute.

foam2 09-08-2018 07:27 AM

I have a stainless open head drum with the weber lid. I use the hunsaker vortex basket and have no issues cooking on both grates for ribs pork butts or anything else. I am not typically cooking that much food where I need both grates but when I'm cooking more than 3 slabs of ribs the second grate is great to have.

fuzzytxt 09-11-2018 08:43 PM

I just completed MY First UDS!
Weeks of planning and gathering what i needed and it payed off big time! Reading this tread helped alot!

https://i.imgur.com/6WkITVe.jpg

I had a tiny little water smoker and it was great $50 from Home Depot! It worked, but i wanted to step up and looking at the intermediate smokers, whew thats $500 on up and When i saw Drum Smokers I was sold!

Here is a build log if anyone is interested (just on IMGUR)

Cant wait to get Ribs, Brisket, Pork Butt, and wings on there, Just dont know what to do first LOL!

OferL 09-12-2018 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzytxt (Post 4065776)
I just completed MY First UDS!
Weeks of planning and gathering what i needed and it payed off big time! Reading this tread helped alot!

https://i.imgur.com/6WkITVe.jpg

I had a tiny little water smoker and it was great $50 from Home Depot! It worked, but i wanted to step up and looking at the intermediate smokers, whew thats $500 on up and When i saw Drum Smokers I was sold!

Here is a build log if anyone is interested (just on IMGUR)

Cant wait to get Ribs, Brisket, Pork Butt, and wings on there, Just dont know what to do first LOL!

Looks beautiful. Welcome to the dark side:thumb:

Caeyers 09-12-2018 04:30 AM

Nice 1!

Big Game 09-12-2018 06:52 AM

New to site
 
I am new to this site and apologize if I am posting my question in the wrong place. But, can someone assist me in finding an accessory for an ugly drum smoker? I am looking for the device used to hold the digital meat probe to the UDS. It appears to be stainless Steel and has a pivoting head that that is detachable from the main unit but is attached to the meat probe. Thanks for all your help

fuzzytxt 09-12-2018 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OferL (Post 4065881)
Looks beautiful. Welcome to the dark side:thumb:

LOL Its So bad i am already thinking of my next one!

fuzzytxt 09-12-2018 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Game (Post 4065931)
I am looking for the device used to hold the digital meat probe to the UDS. It appears to be stainless Steel and has a pivoting head that that is detachable from the main unit but is attached to the meat probe.

Hey I am new to this stuff as well and i think i have seen what you are talking about (holds the digital thermometer on the outside not the actual probe inside) I cant seem to find it but this is my best guess

Magnetic door stop

Maybe glueing a big HUGE magnet to the bottom of it?

Good Luck

Big Game 09-12-2018 09:34 AM

You are correct, it holds the thermometer on the outside


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