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Carbon 09-04-2011 04:01 PM

Perhaps you simply don't have enough charcoal lit in the basket to start with.
Even with bad charcoal you should easily be able to go much higher than 120F.

PhilipW 09-04-2011 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuliku (Post 1776482)
The bottom and the top vents are all 2 cm / 0.8 inch.
This should be the same as a 3/4" ?
(1 inch = 2.54 cm)

As long as you're know the 3/4" is the inside diameter. Actually, it's more like .8125" ID for a regular threaded black pipe nipple from the home center.

pirate94 09-04-2011 05:02 PM

No Smoke??
 
I am two hours in to my maiden smoke on just finished UDS. Temp is holding strong bettween 225-250. However the smoke has stopped a few times. I have added chips several tmes in two hours. I am using a propane burner as a heat source, with a cast iron skillet on top to put my chips in. Where did I go Wrong?:confused:

PhilipW 09-04-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pirate94 (Post 1776565)
I am two hours in to my maiden smoke on just finished UDS. Temp is holding strong bettween 225-250. However the smoke has stopped a few times. I have added chips several tmes in two hours. I am using a propane burner as a heat source, with a cast iron skillet on top to put my chips in. Where did I go Wrong?:confused:

It sounds like you didn't get your coals started well and they burned out.

I hear about using weed burners to start the coals, but I've only ever used a chimney, and it works perfect every single time. Once started well, you should never have to add anything to the fire.

I'm not sure I follow you on the cast iron skillet for chips. Generally, you just put your smoke wood in with the coals, and make sure some are on the top so they get going initially. Dry, not soaked in anything.

Carbon 09-04-2011 05:35 PM

Try wrapping the chips in foil or use wood chunks instead on the skillet. Chips directly on the skillet will burn out quickly I would imagine. Your UDS is almost like a gas grill with open vents for the burner. Wood chips should be wrapped in foil.

Also, be extra cautious to make sure you have no trapped gas in the drum prior to lighting.

rondini 09-04-2011 05:38 PM

pirate why are u using a burner for your heat source and not a bed of coals?:confused:

pirate94 09-04-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rondini (Post 1776631)
pirate why are u using a burner for your heat source and not a bed of coals?:confused:

I thought it would be easier to control the temp. and easier cleanup. It shouldnt matter coal or propane, heat cooks, smoke flavors.

pirate94 09-04-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilipW (Post 1776601)
It sounds like you didn't get your coals started well and they burned out.

I hear about using weed burners to start the coals, but I've only ever used a chimney, and it works perfect every single time. Once started well, you should never have to add anything to the fire.

I'm not sure I follow you on the cast iron skillet for chips. Generally, you just put your smoke wood in with the coals, and make sure some are on the top so they get going initially. Dry, not soaked in anything.

I'm not using charcoal, propane burner at bottom, skillet on top to hold chips. I can't figure out how to post pics.

pirate94 09-04-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carbon (Post 1776627)
Try wrapping the chips in foil or use wood chunks instead on the skillet. Chips directly on the skillet will burn out quickly I would imagine. Your UDS is almost like a gas grill with open vents for the burner. Wood chips should be wrapped in foil.

Also, be extra cautious to make sure you have no trapped gas in the drum prior to lighting.

Thanks, Ill try both. When chips have turned black are they finished smoking?

pirate94 09-04-2011 06:09 PM

propane smoker
 
3 Attachment(s)
This should give you an idea of what I did.

rondini 09-04-2011 06:37 PM

pirate, my experience with 3 intake holes 1 of which has a ball-valve make it very easy to control temps. Clean-up, I don't do this everytime I cook, only when needed. Also, clean-up is not all messy in my opinion. You're right heat cooks. But, like a gas stove u put the flame on a pan u will burn everytime if u can't see whats happening on the stove. I can get hotter temps in my UDS with more coals and more air. A gas burner is limited to the burner. I have to wonder how much gas I'd go thru on a 12, 14 16 hour burn. If I did not have a full tank of gas, would it be enough with out swiching out tanks. Do I have a full tank for an over night cook? I hope a picture is forming.

Carbon 09-04-2011 06:48 PM

Pirate, for your safety your UDS should have an open vent at the bottom. I'm assuming you're controlling your temp by the amount of gas being fed and not by the intake vents.
If the flame goes out in the middle of the cook that drum can explode. Does the burner have some sort of a safety shut off valve should the flame go out?

pirate94 09-04-2011 06:54 PM

I have three vent holes, one with valve. Do you see an advantage to charcoal? I could easily convert.

mike5150 09-04-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuliku (Post 1776482)
The bottom and the top vents are all 2 cm / 0.8 inch.
This should be the same as a 3/4" ?
(1 inch = 2.54 cm)

I agree the intake look too small. What size drill did you use? If you used a 2cm drill thats not the same as mine i used a 1 inch or 2.54cm

tuliku 09-05-2011 12:05 AM

Thanks all for the advice given. The drill was indeed 2 cm, so i guess the inside of the air intake is a bit smaller.
First thing after work will be getting new vents, and a bigger single exhaust on the top.
Will post again with pics on v1.1 of my UDS :-)

Thanks !


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