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Edward Alt 06-03-2021 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Swine-Enshrined (Post 4421765)
Gents... What I was looking for input on was the "straight" drum (pictured), vs the traditional barrels that are all over CL.

This is a new, unlined 55 gallon straight drum with removable lid . $88.
Seems like it would make a really nice UDS

Stats:

PART# 551A2NSM150
UN RATED 55 GALLON OPEN TOP SMOOTH SIDE STEEL DRUM
- NEW
- UNLINED
- BOLT RING CLOSURE
- SOLID LID
UN1A2/Y1.5150 - UN1A2/X400/S
DIMS: 24" X 24" X 34.5" Tall
WEIGHT: 44LBS.

crevice free / smooth sided barrels are what they use to make one of the best drum smokers on the competition trail - Hunsaker Smokers

Go for it. I don't think you'll regret it!

onemanlan 06-03-2021 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jstromme (Post 4481768)
Hey all you UDS experts.

I finished my first build. I've been cooking with it a ton and I love it.
I made a video of the build...

https://youtu.be/Ai-CwUaOs9s

I'd love to get some thoughts and feedback from the pros on this forum.

I doubt this will be the last one I build.

Thanks!

nice looking UDS. your commentary was pretty funny through the process. good of you to look out for your hands and your friends hands with regards to sharp edges. really like your firebox solution!

ChargerWI18 06-03-2021 08:11 PM

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Hey all, I posted this in the Q-talk general forum. Decided to post in the UDS sub forum.(forgot about it) My question is, do you see this on your UDS exhaust? I run 275 for all my cooks and only one 1 exhaust is open at a time depending on wind. Had an issue with to much airflow back feeding into the drum when both were open the entire cook and I lost the temp I was trying to achieve and the temp got out of control. So since then I run one exhaust and my intakes open a smidge and can hold 275ish for a long time. I guess I just want to make sure Im ok with this seeping out of my exhaust stack? It hardens up after everything is cooled down and have to moisten it to get it off. See pics of set up and issue. Thanks

jstromme 07-23-2021 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by onemanlan (Post 4481952)
nice looking UDS. your commentary was pretty funny through the process. good of you to look out for your hands and your friends hands with regards to sharp edges. really like your firebox solution!

Just now saw this! Thank you for the kind words :)
I've loved cooking on it. I've posted some more videos recently!

I managed to fit 6 pork shoulders on it! Here's the video for that https://youtu.be/mocdFvsLMqk

Most meat I've ever cook on a UDS (or anything for that matter).

luv2smoke 07-23-2021 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swine-Enshrined (Post 4421765)
Gents... What I was looking for input on was the "straight" drum (pictured), vs the traditional barrels that are all over CL.

This is a new, unlined 55 gallon straight drum with removable lid . $88.
Seems like it would make a really nice UDS

Stats:

PART# 551A2NSM150
UN RATED 55 GALLON OPEN TOP SMOOTH SIDE STEEL DRUM
- NEW
- UNLINED
- BOLT RING CLOSURE
- SOLID LID
UN1A2/Y1.5150 - UN1A2/X400/S
DIMS: 24" X 24" X 34.5" Tall
WEIGHT: 44LBS.

Where did you find that deal?

Big D BBQ 08-09-2021 12:00 PM

Waiting on parts for my project. Was lucky enough to score a stainless steel 200 liter drum that is like new..



Thanks for all the info as I get started.

1911Ron 08-09-2021 01:03 PM

I have been using mine for some time and I love it I just never got around to figuring out how to use the hinge that the original grill used, I figured it out a few years ago and it's probably the best lid setup (for me) as I don't have to look for a place to put the lid!
https://i.imgur.com/BMvJtCbl.jpg
I just bought the Vortex charcoal basket for it so I am excited to try it out!
https://www.hunsakersmokers.com/coll...arcoal-baskets

drallan81 08-10-2021 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 1911Ron (Post 4502878)
I have been using mine for some time and I love it I just never got around to figuring out how to use the hinge that the original grill used, I figured it out a few years ago and it's probably the best lid setup (for me) as I don't have to look for a place to put the lid!

I just bought the Vortex charcoal basket for it so I am excited to try it out!
https://www.hunsakersmokers.com/coll...arcoal-baskets

I just bit the bullet on a Hunsanker basket as well. Did first test burn with it over the weekend. The thing holds a lot of charcoal and I might have to modify my vent settings. But I was impressed with the weight of the steel. Only minor complaint I had was it looks like the basket was tack welded up the seam in only 3-4 spots. I'm sure it will hold, but surprised me a bit.

Previously I was using a standard expanded metal basket, followed by the BCF firebucket basket. My BCF started to rust out and I figured it was time to replace.

I wasn't sold on the "vortex" actually doing anything, but will have to admit that the smoke seemed to roll out of the basket differently. Will it really impact anything during the cook, who knows, but so far I'm glad I made the jump. Will be trying some ribs and butts this weekend for the real test.

rockyathabaska 08-11-2021 12:42 PM

Stainless Steel drum score
 
I have just scored a ss drum too after years of searching for a deal.
Do you know how to search this forum for SSteeal drum builds?
Thanks in advance
Rockyathabaska
Many Webers
UDS
Cobb

Paul B 08-14-2021 08:31 AM

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Not hard to do, search UDS thread.
Paul B

Rolling Egg 09-08-2021 05:04 PM

Im about to start my first ever drum builds. I located two free drums and plan to build two side by side and gift one to my brother. I have a couple questions.

1. The drums had a heavy plastic liner in them and inside the liner/bag was grease. I dont see any grease at all on the inside of the drum. Should I do a full on burn out or could I just steel wool and soapy water scrub it? If I need to burn it out would a weed burner work or should I do a full on fire?

2. They are gloss black on outside. Ive read here that the gloss paint holds up pretty well but I want them flat black. Can I just rough up the outside and go over the gloss with a high temp flat black? Will that hold up over time?

Any and all advice appreciated!



https://i.imgur.com/cclEo58.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Edb3aIY.jpg

stymie 09-08-2021 11:07 PM

I built mine way before he put these videos out but I did buy the parts and template from them. Smoker will hold consistent temp for hours once you get it set. I've ran it at 235-250 for a solid 20+ hrs.
Here is a playlist on a build
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...x1_1MoGHreszO9

Zrschaef 12-02-2021 06:39 PM

I was going to build one from scratch but this came available on marketplace and I got it for $10! It needs a good cleaning, sealing around the intakes, and a new paint job. Overall I'm extremely happy with my purchase and can't wait to tear into it!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...29be2d868a.jpg

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SmittyJonz 01-31-2022 09:31 PM

Anybody still make these things or everybody gone Pellet .?

Nuco59 02-01-2022 06:04 AM

When I first came on to this site, drum posts were plentiful and entertaining.

It was the "everyman's" smoker- you didn't have to be handsome- just had to be handy.

It seems that they have passed from being the great thread/ conversation driver- but I bet there are still tons being used weekly to turn out great food. I have a 30 gallon and it gets the call when the meal is "smoke- not grill" and that's quite often.

SmokerKing 02-01-2022 06:10 AM

Use my BUFORD drum smokers every month. Just finished a brisket and a turkey this past Sunday

Lots of KCBS teams still use them as well.

RT 02-01-2022 06:11 AM

Still using the UDS here.

Shiv 02-23-2022 07:29 AM

Im starting the build of my first one.

I couldnt run a heavy burnout where I live, so I spend all weekend sanding the inner part and stripping the outher.

Like it started to rust, I painted the outside of drum & lid with hi temp paint and let it dry until I can go to the village again. (1 or 2 weeks)

Pending:
drill screws, intakes and chimneys
Make a charcoal basket
buy a temp gauge



BUY A TEMP GAUGE:

I dont find any tel-tru/river country here in spain.

The only premium label I know here is wika. And its soooooo expensive (over 130 euros), are used to industrial process control.

Any other brands?
any Euro brand?

Nuco59 02-23-2022 05:26 PM

Me? I'd forego the dial type thermometer totally. I'd suggest a 2 probe digital thermo- use one probe for grate temp and one for your protein. The dial type looks cool but there is always a temp differential from the drum side to the middle- as much as 50degrees F or 10 degrees C. Sure, you can figure out what that difference is...but you will be needing a 2 probe digital to determine that soooo.

SmittyJonz 02-23-2022 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv (Post 4554413)
Im starting the build of my first one



BUY A TEMP GAUGE:

I dont find any tel-tru/river country here in spain.

The only premium label I know here is wika. And its soooooo expensive (over 130 euros), are used to industrial process control.

Any other brands?
any Euro brand?

https://www.amazon.es/tel-tru-bq300-.../dp/B001L4GTEK


https://www.amazon.es/Maverick-40-Ba.../dp/B07F7F8G3Q


don't know if you can order from AmazonUk ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=teltru+...ref=nb_sb_noss

.

OferL 02-24-2022 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuco59 (Post 4554529)
Me? I'd forego the dial type thermometer totally. I'd suggest a 2 probe digital thermo- use one probe for grate temp and one for your protein. The dial type looks cool but there is always a temp differential from the drum side to the middle- as much as 50degrees F or 10 degrees C. Sure, you can figure out what that difference is...but you will be needing a 2 probe digital to determine that soooo.

I agree. Just drill two small holes for the probes.

Shiv 02-25-2022 02:19 AM


Shame on me!
That tel-tru doesnt appeared on my amazon!!
Ive filtered international sellers and i forgot!
Shippings from uk are now a robbery since brexit.


I like the Maverick, but surely I forgot it outdoors for months!

Im now reading a thread about this:
https://www.amazon.es/Inkbird-Term%C...en%2C76&sr=1-3

Thanks!

OferL 02-26-2022 11:51 AM

Inkbirds are great. I have one for some years.

Fraser 02-28-2022 04:07 PM

Howdy!
Reading [I]entire[I] thread, I think I’m somewhere in 2009…..
Ok, really dumb question (I don’t think anybodys asked): rather than burn, why not use epoxy stripper? Then the wire brush, scotch brite, car wash thing, etc.
Live in city and already on FDs $hit list.
Seem to remember a post about using a citrus stripper but don’t think it got any traction.

Nuco59 02-28-2022 05:41 PM

Maybe it was tried- you are only up to 2009 after all :grin:
You might get a few more years and realize everything that could be tried, had been tried.

TBH- I think a lot of it it had to be a matter of what kind of liner you had to remove. Some methods worked better than others - some did not work at all. In either circumstance, it seems that a good burn out was suggested to burn out 1)whatever was missed by the chemical and 2) the nasty azz chemical itself.

my vote: find a drum with NO liner- crack a Miller High Life and enjoy the good times.

Shiv 03-16-2022 08:08 AM

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Ok, finally I had all bought/made.

This is what Im ready to do:

Air inputs: 4 x 1in (3 cap + 1 valve)

Smoke output: 6 x 1 inch holes regulable output. (attached img)

2 racks (about 5" from top and 9" from top)

1 diffuser / water pan (about 13" from top 4" to the lower rack)

The charcoal basket is made 30cm diameter (11.8") x 40 cm (15.7") expanded metal.

2 holes for temp probes (I have this: https://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/s...d.php?t=297352)


Should it work?
In 2 weeks Im going to the village to make & test it.

LongTong 03-16-2022 03:36 PM

Mods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv (Post 4559276)
Ok, finally I had all bought/made.

This is what Im ready to do:

Air inputs: 4 x 1in (3 cap + 1 valve)

Smoke output: 6 x 1 inch holes regulable output. (attached img)

2 racks (about 5" from top and 9" from top)

1 diffuser / water pan (about 13" from top 4" to the lower rack)

The charcoal basket is made 30cm diameter (11.8") x 40 cm (15.7") expanded metal.

2 holes for temp probes (I have this: https://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/s...d.php?t=297352)


Should it work?
In 2 weeks Im going to the village to make & test it.

It will work just fine but for me, I would:

Shorten the basket. 12" is more than enough.

I would re-think your output to something with a stack(s) for better flow...

Otherwise, enjoy building and cooking....

Kaptain Kadian 03-16-2022 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraser (Post 4555787)
Howdy!
Reading [I]entire[I] thread, I think Im somewhere in 2009..
Ok, really dumb question (I dont think anybodys asked): rather than burn, why not use epoxy stripper? Then the wire brush, scotch brite, car wash thing, etc.
Live in city and already on FDs $hit list.
Seem to remember a post about using a citrus stripper but dont think it got any traction.

I just built a drum smoker with a drum that had a whitish cream colored food grade liner in it. I sprayed it down with the oven cleaner stuff from Sam's and let it sit with the lid on. It scraped right out with a razor blade

OferL 03-17-2022 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv (Post 4559276)
Ok, finally I had all bought/made.

This is what Im ready to do:

Air inputs: 4 x 1in (3 cap + 1 valve)

Smoke output: 6 x 1 inch holes regulable output. (attached img)

2 racks (about 5" from top and 9" from top)

1 diffuser / water pan (about 13" from top 4" to the lower rack)

The charcoal basket is made 30cm diameter (11.8") x 40 cm (15.7") expanded metal.

2 holes for temp probes (I have this: https://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/s...d.php?t=297352)


Should it work?
In 2 weeks Im going to the village to make & test it.

Instead of 6 x 1 inch holes regulable output I'd use one 2" with a stack and a lid just for sutdown. You don't want to regulate the outgoing smoke as it might smother the fire and cause black smoke. You want a free flow. 2-3" is enough.

Shiv 03-17-2022 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongTong (Post 4559366)
It will work just fine but for me, I would:

Shorten the basket. 12" is more than enough.

I would re-think your output to something with a stack(s) for better flow...

Otherwise, enjoy building and cooking....

Quote:

Originally Posted by OferL (Post 4559457)
Instead of 6 x 1 inch holes regulable output I'd use one 2" with a stack and a lid just for sutdown. You don't want to regulate the outgoing smoke as it might smother the fire and cause black smoke. You want a free flow. 2-3" is enough.


Thank you!

The fire box is made with a precutted expanded metal sheet, I thught it will be ok if it fits inside. Im waiting to test it to cut it or not.

The output is a diy daisy wheel, like weber, but bigger.
Its a lot easier to me to make 6 x 1" holes than 1 x 2" or 3"
If it is small, Ill just open the small or big holes of the lid.


I'll probably end up buying or making something like this:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wGwAA...csE/s-l400.jpg
But im not ready now to pay 50 bucks for it (with shipping to Spain)


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