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Dr_KY 11-20-2008 11:40 AM

You would take post # 2000! lol

I was so trying to get that one, oh well roll on 3,000.

My Ugly Drum in Competition...


http://i34.tinypic.com/rbjwgo.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/33duj3q.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/mw2sew.jpg

swamprb 11-20-2008 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_KY (Post 785192)
You would take post # 2000! lol

I was so trying to get that one, oh well roll on 3,000.

I was # 1000 and hope to be contributing when we get to 3000!

I'm going to bed now!

Dr_KY 11-20-2008 11:56 AM

It's only 6 in the evening here so if I can get 998 post in before ... nevermind.
Sleep well brother.

Mark 11-20-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb (Post 785191)
Just wanna say I LOVE the Drums!


Now I realize what you were up to with that spate of posts.

JD McGee 11-20-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb (Post 785191)
Just wanna say I LOVE the Drums!

Glory Hound...you padded it! :twisted::twisted::twisted::lol::lol::lol:

Bbq Bubba 11-20-2008 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billygbob (Post 785033)
I usually use 4 fist size chunks in the "bottom layer" in the coal basket and another 4 in the "top layer" (offset 45* so they're between the bottom chunks). Oaks all I have at this time; have some hickory seasoning; begging around for some apple, peach, etc wood.

Here's the bottom layer
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/r...oalPlusOak.jpg

Here's the top layer (w/2 chunks)
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/r...oalPlusOak.jpg

Ya dude, WAY to much wood.....

Bbq Bubba 11-20-2008 08:51 PM

Congrats to Brian on #2000!

And thanks for getting me hooked on these damn garbage cans! :cool:

Norcoredneck 11-20-2008 09:00 PM

2000 and counting. Gotta admit was watching to punch it myself.
Who Posted? Total Posts: 2,007
User NamePost
Norcoredneck 188
Dr_KY 113
swamprb 76
Mark 71
Bbq Bubba 67
Meat Burner 45
jgh1204 45
chinesebob 41
fordman 41
N8man 40
Smokin Gator 37
Barbarian 37
Bigmista 37
ipls3355 30
JD McGee 29

Bbq Bubba 11-20-2008 09:18 PM

Those really were some ugly drums back then.8-)

ColretBBQer 11-20-2008 09:42 PM

I have really got to try one of these drum smokers....!

fordman 11-20-2008 09:48 PM

Wow I made a list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 785592)
2000 and counting. Gotta admit was watching to punch it myself.
Who Posted? Total Posts: 2,007
User NamePost
Norcoredneck 188
Dr_KY 113
swamprb 76
Mark 71
Bbq Bubba 67
Meat Burner 45
jgh1204 45
chinesebob 41
fordman 41
N8man 40
Smokin Gator 37
Barbarian 37
Bigmista 37
ipls3355 30
JD McGee 29


fordman 11-20-2008 09:50 PM

Bubba I thought I posted this all ready but can't find it. Could you please post some close ups of you ball valve mod would like to do this as well. Mainly would like to see how you connected the rod to the valve. Thanks

Bbq Bubba 11-20-2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fordman (Post 785652)
Bubba I thought I posted this all ready but can't find it. Could you please post some close ups of you ball valve mod would like to do this as well. Mainly would like to see how you connected the rod to the valve. Thanks

That would be Norco's invention, i think he has some close-ups.

fordman 11-20-2008 10:07 PM

I was just going off this post didn't know who came up with it.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbq Bubba (Post 782890)
All of the best ideas from this thread! :cool:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3...wvds001wt3.jpg
By imn88fan


Mark 11-21-2008 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbq Bubba (Post 785583)
Ya dude, WAY to much wood.....

So you say. My UDS has never seen a charcoal briquette. I modify how strong the smoke is my mixing woods. I use alot of maple & fruit woods with a little oak or hickory for a milder smoke.

billygbob 11-21-2008 11:01 AM

How much wood for a UDS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbq Bubba (Post 785583)
Ya dude, WAY to much wood.....

How much wood do you use in a UDS for butts or briskets? I'm used to a drafty SNP where the smoke blows right through.

RangerJ 11-21-2008 01:13 PM

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Well mine is finished! Which I can prove via pics above. The bottom pic is the three that have been neglected since I started reading this and since I constructed the UDS.

So far it has smoked, rib tips, a Brisket and a Fatty. Though, apparently it never happened since I failed to photograph the event.

I will also say that as mentioned, it does cook a bit faster so a meat thermometer is a must.

I must say, I'm amazed at the ability to hold temperature with almost no work on my end. Always end up with some charcoal and part of my wood chunks left over as well.

I love my offset, but its probably going to be sold.

I'm now in search of a Weber Kettle Lid so I can use two racks. Though I must say I like the flat top look.

Thanks for all the advice! You guys saved me quite a bit of cash as a BDS was going to be my Christmas present to myself.

Mark 11-21-2008 02:25 PM

Dude: Isn't that a Weber Kettle in the pic? What's wrong with it's lid?

You might also want to consider making and extension ring for your Kettle or your UDS, Basically, it's a 1/3 segment of a drum.

RangerJ 11-21-2008 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark (Post 786089)
Dude: Isn't that a Weber Kettle in the pic? What's wrong with it's lid?

You might also want to consider making and extension ring for your Kettle or your UDS, Basically, it's a 1/3 segment of a drum.

It is not the fit that I need and will need to be modified. Unless one of you smarter than I guys is telling me that bending the lip of the Weber out, will not affect the performance on the Weber itself?

Bbq Bubba 11-21-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billygbob (Post 785942)
How much wood do you use in a UDS for butts or briskets? I'm used to a drafty SNP where the smoke blows right through.

2 or 3 fist sized chunks last the entire smoke! :biggrin:

Bbq Bubba 11-21-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark (Post 785852)
So you say. My UDS has never seen a charcoal briquette. I modify how strong the smoke is my mixing woods. I use alot of maple & fruit woods with a little oak or hickory for a milder smoke.

Are you saying your drum is a stick burner???

Meat Burner 11-21-2008 04:55 PM

bubba asked before I could. Slow mod.

JP 11-21-2008 06:17 PM

Hey boys,

I'm thinking about installing a dial thermometer to my drum. I am getting tired of "forgetting" my digitals outside, then they get weathered and I have to buy a new one.

Spicewines thermometer has a 2 1/2" probe. Do you think the temps need to be read at the center of the grate or will that be fine.

The "forgetting" part is Mr. Jack Daniels fault. He always screws me up by the end of a long cook.

Rookie'48 11-21-2008 11:32 PM

Get the one with the short probe & add 30* for the center temp. A longer probe will be a problem for your charcoal basket. Place the thermo just under the lower grate.

BBQ Grail 11-21-2008 11:35 PM

So, what's this thread about?

Meat Burner 11-22-2008 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbq Bubba (Post 786164)
Are you saying your drum is a stick burner???

Just curious about this! Always looking for a new way to improve on any technique.

JD McGee 11-23-2008 02:31 PM

UDS III with "Slide Control"...
 
Started work on my next build today...here's a few in progress pics.

Food grade...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...I/IMG_6159.jpg

Contents was EVOO...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...I/IMG_6160.jpg

Lid off...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...I/IMG_6165.jpg

Slide control layout...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...I/IMG_6166.jpg

Vent hole cut out...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...I/IMG_6168.jpg

Gonna use some leftover BGE gasket to seal...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...I/IMG_6169.jpg

Off to Home Depot for some stainless hardware...stay tuned. :biggrin:

Dr_KY 11-23-2008 05:05 PM

I'll be here, how about using allen heads for the bolts.

fordman 11-23-2008 05:14 PM

Stainless button heads would look lots better.

Dr_KY 11-23-2008 05:28 PM

http://i37.tinypic.com/2wqa1p5.jpg


Allen heads with a stainless washer matches the temp gauge better.:twisted:

JD McGee 11-23-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_KY (Post 787373)
I'll be here, how about using allen heads for the bolts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fordman (Post 787380)
Stainless button heads would look lots better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_KY (Post 787387)
http://i37.tinypic.com/2wqa1p5.jpg


Allen heads with a stainless washer matches the temp gauge better.:twisted:

Sorry guys...I went with ugly cheapo machine screws. I'm doing something a bit different this time. I'm installing 3/8-16 x 1/2 long bolts and am drilling them out to accept a #8 screw that is 2 inches long. My goal is to be able to remove them at any time so I can nest my WSM inside for transport to and from competitions.

Mod pics...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...a/PB240002.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...a/PB240005.jpg

STX Cue 11-25-2008 03:41 PM

That is a pretty sweet idea JD...not sure I could pull it off, but I like the idea.

Butt-A-Bing! 11-25-2008 07:19 PM

Hey, so I thought I would give the UDS a try. I aquired a drum today but I am not sure about it. I have looked through most of the posts and haven't seen one like it. It has no rolling rings and I am wondering if it is a heavy enough gauge. I had to cut the lip off to get the Weber lid on it and it seems a little "flimsy" now. Anyone ever used this type before?

JD McGee 11-25-2008 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STX Cue (Post 788742)
That is a pretty sweet idea JD...not sure I could pull it off, but I like the idea.

I'm pretty sure it will work...I'm limited as to how much stuff I can haul and want to streamline / downsize as much as possible. Being able to nest my two WSM's inside two UDS's along with charcoal baskets, charcoal, etc will be a big help. I'll finish the first UDS this weekend...if my charcoal baskets are finished by then. If not I'll do a dry run with the WSM ring.

JD McGee 11-25-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butt-A-Bing! (Post 788880)
Hey, so I thought I would give the UDS a try. I aquired a drum today but I am not sure about it. I have looked through most of the posts and haven't seen one like it. It has no rolling rings and I am wondering if it is a heavy enough gauge. I had to cut the lip off to get the Weber lid on it and it seems a little "flimsy" now. Anyone ever used this type before?

I've seen the rib-less ones but not one with the top ring cut off. Usually folks cut up the kettle bottom to fit inside. I imagine it is a bit flimsy without the support of that ring. Should still work just fine though...just be careful not to bend it out of shape moving it around. :-P The top looks like it fits great!

chinesebob 11-25-2008 07:36 PM

I want to see someone mod a uds with a 35 inside an 85 suspended with insulation and a protected fire pit and a grate that is adjustable and a heat defusing plate. Oh and then paint it green.

I'm looking for any reason to not go stuff 100 poppers.

Butt-A-Bing! 11-25-2008 08:24 PM

I didn't want to mess with the lid cause I still use it for my kettle. Ahh if it bends eventually I get another drum.:biggrin:

Chris

JD McGee 11-25-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butt-A-Bing! (Post 788937)
I didn't want to mess with the lid cause I still use it for my kettle. Ahh if it bends eventually I get another drum.:biggrin:

Chris

That's the spirit...looks like a good build so far! :-P

Bbq Bubba 11-25-2008 09:06 PM

JD, i'm lovin that slide intake!

Got any finished pics yet? :shock:

RazBarlow 11-25-2008 10:11 PM

JD,
Looks like it is time to change your coolant.It looks pretty rank . You using petroleum based or soy based coolant ?
Raz

Mark 11-26-2008 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butt-A-Bing! (Post 788880)
Hey, so I thought I would give the UDS a try. I aquired a drum today but I am not sure about it. I have looked through most of the posts and haven't seen one like it. It has no rolling rings and I am wondering if it is a heavy enough gauge. I had to cut the lip off to get the Weber lid on it and it seems a little "flimsy" now. Anyone ever used this type before?

If all it has to support is a Weber Kettle lid, it should be fine. Once a grate is in, it won't be able to distort much anyway.

Cliff H. 11-26-2008 08:34 AM

I usually pick up on mod ideas pretty quick. I have no idea how you are going to use this bolt system to nest your wsm inside your drum.

I will be waiting for pics.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...a/PB240005.jpg

Butt-A-Bing! 11-26-2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butt-A-Bing! (Post 788880)
Hey, so I thought I would give the UDS a try. I aquired a drum today but I am not sure about it. I have looked through most of the posts and haven't seen one like it. It has no rolling rings and I am wondering if it is a heavy enough gauge. I had to cut the lip off to get the Weber lid on it and it seems a little "flimsy" now. Anyone ever used this type before?


I just realized its a 35 inch tall drum! How am I gonna get 24" between the charcoal grate and a second shelf? :confused: Shoulda had a tape measure when I picked it up! Whats the shallowest charcoal ring I can get away with?

Chris

JD McGee 11-26-2008 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff H. (Post 789198)
I usually pick up on mod ideas pretty quick. I have no idea how you are going to use this bolt system to nest your wsm inside your drum.

I will be waiting for pics.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...a/PB240005.jpg

I'm mounting the large bolt with nut where you would normally put your grate bolts...the through hole is just to allow for rapid removal of the grate mounting bolts and provide clearance (no grate bolts in the way) for the WSM to fit inside the UDS. Pics to follow this weekend. :-P

JD McGee 11-26-2008 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butt-A-Bing! (Post 789339)
I just realized its a 35 inch tall drum! How am I gonna get 24" between the charcoal grate and a second shelf? :confused: Shoulda had a tape measure when I picked it up! Whats the shallowest charcoal ring I can get away with?

Chris

I use a 6 inch height on my rings and vary the diameters. I have a 16 inch diameter for long burns (8 hours or longer) and an 8 inch diameter for quick cooks (2-4 hours). The overall height with standoffs is 9-10 inches.

ole'e 11-26-2008 11:02 PM

UDS kits
 
I recall seeing a website for a UDS kit. Anyone remember what it is?
Thanks Eric

Rookie'48 11-27-2008 12:54 AM

If I remember right that kit is kinda pricey. Dig through the thread, pick out what you need for how you want your drum be, and save yourself a buncha $$$. Besides - you're gong to get a good feeling cooking on "your" smoker :biggrin:.l

ole'e 11-27-2008 12:15 PM

UDS kit
 
I have a idea and need to know what they are offering in the kit for that price.

Bbq Bubba 11-27-2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ole'e (Post 789721)
I recall seeing a website for a UDS kit. Anyone remember what it is?
Thanks Eric


Yup.......

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=52480

dresselbrew 11-29-2008 05:53 PM

Well I made it all the way through before posting anything. I am just about done with my UDS and will post pics when I finish it with some tasty pron.

One thing that kept irritating me is the use of "food safe". From what I've seen food safe just means they have a liner in the drum. I'm sure that liner isn't food safe when it's burned. The only real food safe would be a stainless steel drum. I think a drum that had food in it or motor oil in it would be fine after a good burn. I've talked to people that used old heating oil barrels as pig cookers after a good burn.

Sorry for the rant. I just had to say it.


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